Why don't people understand that the bible is a code that allows people to live a better and fuller life?

You guys are missing the point.
It's about how Jesus acted towards other people.

It's already proven that if one person acts like a buddha the rest follow.

>build thy kingdom, and they will come
>the herder tends to his flock, and finds the ones who have been lost

Its about us trying live together as one species in harmony.

he was a cuck and now the west is cucked because of him

I think you should write a guide on starting a cult.

Not really, the alpha humans have always reigned supreme.

The alphas in the u.s. reign supreme by their wealth, and family ties.

Cucks were never in Gods kingdom in the first place
Why do you think
>athiesm
Is the ultimate cuck?

The most important aspect of the Bible (new and old)
Is family value.

I only talk about this online and with local pastors and priests.

But Yeah maybe I should

>traditionalism i...

>Christians claim everything that happened in the Bible was real
>Get btfo by science
>Muh metaphors

they’ve been metaphors for an extremely long time going back to antiquity, and they’re more parables of metaphysics and cosmogeny. and science is going to be overturned by itself in the next 100 years again just as 19th century science was.

The biggest problem with the Bible is that we do not have it.
As shown by the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls, we are missing very important texts and the texts that we have are not 100% reliable.
And the New Testament is boring.

>caring about group system thinking
>falling for hivemind mentality

>2011+7
ISHYGDDT

Why do you think Promised Abraham and his sons a place in Gods kingdom, and therafter Abrahams religion and kingdom ruled?

dude
We have the upanishads
>implying the bible isn't synchronised in Hinduism
>implying other religious texts have never been supported by the Bible

>traditional valu...
>zzzZzZZz...

>[D]unning-[K]reuger
Not even that. The things I do understand are just so obvious.

It's really odd how the reactionary conservative falls for these liberal tricks. (I mean, I was one of them once, I know) They let themselves get peeled off their lands as serfs and stuck into mill towns to work to death, "it's okay, just as long as Jesus is there."
They accept all this post-modernist corraling and fascism. So fucking gullible.
Any one of you that discovers the world is doomed under capitalism, you ACCEPT it. You LOVE it. Because it brings Jesus back. Fucking degeneracy.

>ISHYGDDT
Haven't seen that in a while.

yea but they didn't become alphas by emulating jesus (king of cucks, the cucked samaritan and the one who got cucked for our sins)
he died a virgin and never touched a pusy, not even his mother's

Wtf is wrong with you?

Define traditional, because I am being traditional with the core values.
It's about teaching the younger generation.

What do you think is the downfall of soyboys and feminazis?

Bad parenting.

A bad back.

My noon is upon me and I remain a slave at the eye of the most powerful empire in history. It is the monster we must slay, user.

>This post

>define traditi...
>the youngsters...
>bad parenti..

is this the same guy who posted that "muh if there isn't a god then everything is permitted" thread?

>t. uses the terms conservative and liberal unironically

your post made me laugh, miss farfalla. I am and I guarantee you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, all religions and the church in particular has done terrible things for control and yes it has been used as a tool of the state -- but we're not talking about the church. We're talking about the book. Like you said, the things you do understand are just so obvious. It is a surface understanding.

Please to not call things degenerate if you don't understand them. There is no proof of God. The wise take it on faith. The rest... well there is nothing more repellant than a devout atheist.

Do the priests who teach little boys how to suck cock follow this particular code or a different one?

>The most important aspect of the Bible (new and old)
>Is family value.
This is beyond the level of retardation even a christlarper could have. This MUST be a troll.
Jesus literally literally said he cameto turn families against each other. Please please please kill yourself.

LOL its not even about country or religion, I don't care about Christianity, I just care about people and God.
>implying the older generation was even close to doing it correctly

Im 22.

>Im 22.

No, you're an autistic faggot.

>Not real Christianity guise
Go LARP somewhere else you christcuck

>The wise take it on faith
The third worlders, facebook aunts and peoplewho don't know the subject to be even more precise.

there are good ethics and parables in the bible. the miraculous stories are bullshit, christian god is bullshit.

Take away god and miracles and you've got some good ethical doctrines.

>a surface understanding.
You mistake a surface diagnosis for a surface understanding.

Taking the existence of a god on faith is not wanting to know. This conviction has soiled the minds of humanity for centuries and it will lead to our extinction. Because that's alright with them of course.

>Yeshua (30), lives with his parents, thinks we should all be nicer to each other

I've never been diagnosed with autism and I have had sex with a girl.

I'll be 21 in two weeks, so not completely wrong.

No shit, families will turn against each back then (split of judiasm) be he also said no one will truly know Jesus during his time.

??

Yes but at that point you're undermining the spiritual content, and esoteric value.

you don't need god nor religion to be spiritual

I will give you the real answer why people don't understand the bible's purpose:

It was not written for the lowest common denominator. Witness all the anons in this thread who equate study of the word with what they know of it: their mentally deficient aunts and a generalized ignorance in the populace.

An old generation dies, power changes hands, new doctrine is written, and that's the end of something that began with the greatest of intentions. "Real" Christianity died at Nicea.

>Taking the existence of a god on faith is not wanting to know. This conviction has soiled the minds of humanity for centuries and it will lead to our extinction. Because that's alright with them of course.
I'm not sure what a philosophical assumption about a first principle has to do with the decay of society you're condemning (and which will continue for the life of our species regardless). But keep fighting the power I guess.

>the spiritual content, and esoteric value.
Oh god. The astrology crowd found Veeky Forums.

>"Real" Christianity died at Nicea.
That's something I can agree with.

I'm not saying you do, but to disregard the Bible as but a doctrine of ethics is poor choice.

Heck, to do that would be to disregard Hinduism and by virtue of that we say Goodbye to buddhism as well.

Astrology?
Do you know what theurgy is?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldean_Oracles

Have fun seperating religion and spirituality.

>by seeing the bible as en ethical doctrine, hinduism and buddhism become irrelevant

explain yourself.

Context.

Im saying the Bible is much more than just ethics.

But user how do I understand the Bible? My family are all degenerates.

no it's about how Jesus acted towards God; He did the will of God. That would include treating others correctly

The bible IS degeneracy.

>doesn't know that Lemaître, a Catholic priest and astronomer, proposed the idea of the Big Bang
try again mister

Yes, but how does that contradict what I said?

Remember God is his father. (Family wishes, fathers orders)

No. Its about degeneracy.

Its of regeneracy.

>Context.
This explains nothing.

>Im saying the Bible is much more than just ethics.

No shit? you still haven't explained yourself.

Here's what I think you mean: Christianity entails a spiritual aspect that comes from a belief in something larger than human life, something that gives us purpose and community ie god.

Hinduism and Buddhism follow this same archetype (though Buddhism has no god and Hinduism has many gods).

If we remove these aforementioned aspects, we are left with bare ethical doctrine, and this is bad because the sense of belonging and deified guidance is gone.

Am I in the ballpark here?

It's a con from a band of sick minds. A degeneracy from the most decrepit minds of the early Hebrew tribes, the street preachers of Palestine to the neo-Platonists.
Promoting the after afterlife as an escape from their misery and toil ruined what true civilization could have been

Yeah on that line of thought yes

But I was talking how if you strip the spiritual virtue in the Bible, you would have to do the same to all other religions that it are synchrestic in value.

a better way to put it:

Jesus said the two great commandments:

>1. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength;

>2. Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

There's a reason loving God in that fashion is the first commandment of Jesus's...

That's not to disregard our neighbors either. But what Jesus taught was much more than that. The reason He acts well towards others is literally for the sake of God first. He did it because God told Him to. Doing good doesn't equal feeling good about doing good either; that doesn't mean Jesus was a robot, He loved doing the Will of God.

But again, Jesus did what God told Him to. That is the infinitely big umbrella over what you said about loving humans in harmony

>hey you jews, make your lives more "miserable" than it already is and go against your nature which is already shit and make it "shittier" with my cool evil Jesus teachings
>then you'll feel better when you die!
Jesus didn't really sell Christianity that well by your standards

trying to be a good Christian is not fun... To our naive minds, sin is fun

You are denying the truth of the after life.
Your negative atrocities should magnify the shame you have on your family.

Friend, if everyone was living this way humans would be able to reac for the stars quite literally.

I agree with you, I didn't quite brace the full encomberance of it.
But thats not to say I was wrong.

If more people listened to God, life becomes funner, and its becomes easier for other people to reach this mentality.

>Trying to sell "sin"
>2018

Sin just means off Gods mark.

Perfection is sinless. Literally.

You're right, but most people here on Veeky Forums are fedora-tier butthurt atheists. t. theologian & sociologist.

>being this unabashedly, unironically in love with evil
I'm curious what you think "civilization could have been" if not what we have now?

inb4 a communist paradise where property is shared and peace reigns supreme, because that is precisely what Christianity taught but you apes are so obsessed over material things that you blew it

>atheist theologist

How I become like this

you are already like your pic related. user said they are a theologian and sociologist, not an atheist.

>But I was talking how if you strip the spiritual virtue in the Bible, you would have to do the same to all other religions that it are synchrestic in value.

Is this not the same as

>If we remove these aforementioned aspects, we are left with bare ethical doctrine, and this is bad because the sense of belonging and deified guidance is gone.

And I wouldn't have a problem with stripping other religions of spirituality in favor of pure ethical doctrine. Arguably, the loss of belonging wouldn't be an issue for very long. People can find groups and ideologies to commit to outside of religion. And they would still have guidance through those doctrines. In fact, those doctrines could even act as a neo-religious group of sorts. People follow codes of conduct in many secular realms such as Stoicism, Cynicism, or Naturalistic Pantheism and they are doing just fine.

Or maybe they just don't believe in the Bible?

I'm saying if life was garbage already, Jesus the man shouldn't have done so well at promoting his values— values that to people in original sin would hate because it didn't feel pleasant— for the sake of eternal bliss in a heaven

If Jesus the man was spreading a new moral code/religion/whatever, he double-downed on the misery of people—as you said— with more misery, because acting like Jesus is hard and unpleasant

No i want be a theologian on athiesm
>mfw you didnt understand what I was saying

This is better book to use.

that image doesnt make sense. his head goes from concave to flat, implying that there is more brain matter there

Nah to strip the spiritual aspects casts the dark ages over humanity.

I'm not going to argue semantics with you, we are on the same page.

The image is actually inside the mind of the internet

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Why you christians always try to associate being good with your religion? Obviously acting selflessly would be better and Jesus was someone like that, don't means you are automatically bad if you don't think he was divine.

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what about the other part that i said tho

Im OP, im not christian.
I don't even care about other peoples religion.

I'm agnostic really, but bordering to theosophy. Makes perfectly sense I think.

i feel we r kindred souls even tho ur first img sucks balls

What do you mean? I responded to both.

you responded to this?

>And I wouldn't have a problem with stripping other religions of spirituality in favor of pure ethical doctrine. Arguably, the loss of belonging wouldn't be an issue for very long. People can find groups and ideologies to commit to outside of religion. And they would still have guidance through those doctrines. In fact, those doctrines could even act as a neo-religious group of sorts. People follow codes of conduct in many secular realms such as Stoicism, Cynicism, or Naturalistic Pantheism and they are doing just fine.

You don't need to believe in The Bible to see that it harbors some ethical Truths. Jesus teachings can be a great way to live your life.

If it's what Christianity taught, it's failed. Completely. Totally. And it's 100% wrong. Time to change tactics, don't you think?

>In love with evil
That is what Christians are in love with though. They have stood by, assisted, in every evil.

If you're curious to know from where I'm coming from, read Stirner, Nietzsche, Marx, (Richard Wolff video lectures will do) Kropotkin, Bakunin, Goldman, Malatesta, Rocker, Bookchin.

Are you a Peterson fan?

>And I wouldn't have a problem with stripping other religions of spirituality in favor of pure ethical doctrine. Arguably, the loss of belonging wouldn't be an issue for very long. People can find groups and ideologies to commit to outside of religion. And they would still have guidance through those doctrines. In fact, those doctrines could even act as a neo-religious group of sorts. People follow codes of conduct in many secular realms such as Stoicism, Cynicism, or Naturalistic Pantheism and they are doing just fine.

>Nah to strip the spiritual aspects casts the dark ages over humanity

Not really, I like how he was trying to understand the Bible through his interpations of modern Pyschology.

Yeah perhaps man

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Not OP but I will answer your question. Christians associate being good with their religion because God is good, and the imitation of his ways was the purpose of Jesus' visit. The concept of of associating perfection/goodness with the highest/indivisible/unknowable is originally from the Greeks, you don't have to believe in the Christian dogma to accept it.

And note that I don't mean the god of the Israelites, because that motherfucker razed cities and slaughtered a whole generation of children.

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Proof we walked with Dinosaurs
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Jesus christ, I thought I left you guys at /x/.

tf is this shit

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