What does the female obsession over 50 shades of grey tell us?

You're not wrong.
t. Your case

thanks, my case. OP thinks he can bring his Veeky Forums threads to Veeky Forums and rake in the (you)s

Who is this sperm enchantress

you're about a decade too late to make this thread

Women are starved for dominant, male attention

Feminism, social shame and peer pressure prevents most women from following their biological desire and submit to a strong alpha male, so they look to fantasies and pornography

Try actually looking at the kinds of porn & erotic novels women love, it's pretty hardcore stuff
Kidnapping, BDSM, submission, women are the main crowd for this kind of stuff
The softcore """"""romantic and female friendly"""""" porn is, ironically, watched mostly by males

I like both bdsm and vanilla stuff. It's really about how I feel that day. The only degenerate thing is when a person is fixated on only one thing and can't be satisfied without it. Like, a feet fetish is fine, but if you can't have a relationship because a girl has what you consider average feet, you're sick. Or if you're a voyeur and can't get your dick up unless you're outside and there's no one surprised at you being naked. It's all fine if it's moderate. If you don't take out the trash for one day longer it's fine, but if you don't take trash out ever, it's sick.

moderation makes thing ok

being repressed and forcing it on others makes thing ok

Are any women actually sexually dominant?

If you count Mommy complexes

>Out on the balcony, when Reginald kissed Diana's lips, her knees went weak. Slowly, he pulled her top down, exposing her soft, unyielding breasts. Just the sight of those breasts made Reginald's penis very hard. His penis was of considerable size, and now beads of sweat slowly ran down his penis, making it glisten like a strong swimmer, fresh from out of the pool. It was a fantastic penis, that seemed as strong as a horse's leg, yet as delicate as a flower wrapped in silk. What a grand, grand penis. Diana's nipples...

>Diana had never slept with another woman before, but it was an erotic thought she often fantasized about, and as Rebecca's naked body lay before her, Diana couldn't help but feel aroused. "Go on", Rebecca said softly, "Touch me." Diana leaned down slowly and brushed Rebecca's bare stomach with her fingertips... It felt good. Like a penis. A soft, but sturdy penis that felt warm to the touch. In Rebecca's mind, she suddenly felt like she was surrounded by penises. They were all around her, flopping all around and slapping her face. It was as if she were in a redwood forest of penises. They presented themselves tall and mighty all around her, with...

So exactly the opposite of Veeky Forums?

People like:
>high-status partners
>taboo (but not too taboo) sex
>feeling special
Shocker.
On a related note, I've noticed that 9 times out of 10, when a woman says she's "kinky," she just wants to talk slightly dirtier than normal and maybe be spanked. If you actually break out the whips and chains, she'll wilt.
Thesis: People like feeling taboo/kinky/incestuous without actually being these things.

>Like, a feet fetish is fine, but if you can't have a relationship because a girl has what you consider average feet, you're sick.
I don't know about that. I'm an assman and I usually avoid girls that don't have at least an above-average ass. If worse came to worse, I could probably make due, but why just make due? Same logic probably applies to any other body part.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>So what would you say the widespread interest and curiosity amongst women in 50 Shades tells us?
that middle class soccer moms hate their lives, their husbands can't pleasure them, and they're painfully fucking vanilla. everything we already knew.

that women want to be treated like shit by a guy who will never leave them

>they're painfully fucking vanilla
Yeah honestly, people act like this is some hardcore shit but what’s the worst thing that happens, he spanks her pretty hard? Like come on

It's a form of social stockholm syndrome. Man writes softcore romance to fill the void in his empty marriage, all while beating his wife and wondering who got her in to that weird BDSM shit. You can't say that breadwinning men are responsible for shaping society only to turn around and blame all the other other parties for society's shape; there's an obvious contradiction there. If you wrote the story then you're the one responsible for the mistakes. Don't blame other people.

I've been reading better sex on ff.net since I was 12

Fuck, that's hilarious.

Women masturbate...big whoop

Basically. Men are interested in utility (raw visuals, physical pleasures) while women are interested in sign (the delight in a book about her secret fetish, social drama surrounding it).

"Repression" is a meme. There is no evidence to support this idea that not partaking in odd fetishes will turn you into a sex fiend.

>Try actually looking at the kinds of porn & erotic novels women love, it's pretty hardcore stuff
>Kidnapping, BDSM, submission, women are the main crowd for this kind of stuff
>The softcore """"""romantic and female friendly"""""" porn is, ironically, watched mostly by males
i refuse to believe this

>prevents
>heroin and rape are find in moderation
t. narcissistic sociopath
you don’t have to because he made up the last part
mental illness post

im about ready to pack it up anons, i don’t think this site has anything left for me

you’re all very stupid and boring

Both of the girls I have slept with enjoyed it immensely when I tied, choked, or hit them.

>mental illness post
Except it's correct. Mammals have been shown to hug dolls made of barbed wire if that's what they're given. You're not presenting a counterargument, you're just playing the role of the phantom skeptic so that noone can take a shot at you. It's very stupid and boring, honestly.

That they’re all morally bankrupt? A great sign of the Kali Yuga?

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holy shit that's atrocious writing

stpeach

That crap can sell
That women really want to be dirty in bed but don't want the social stigma.

That women like real men but have been deprived of the for so long that a poorly written twilight fanfic about an abusive psycopath will get them off because at least he takes what he wants and is unashamed of being kinky and sexual?

Women are aroused by language the way men are aroused by imagery.
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That they have no literary standards whatsoever.

the popularity of 50 Shades of Grey is one way that I justify owning more than one copy of Mein Kampf

Women are aroused by shitty, not very imaginative fanfic that appeals to their repressed fantasies of violent sexuality, because their brains do not contain much stuff other than instincts.*

I hope you're reading this, OP. This is what your humanities thread created.

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It doesn't tell us anything except that trends are overvalued among women. It doesn't matter what it is as long as it's trendy, and so it becomes gigatrendy.
No.
Guys like porn for masturbating, girls like porn for masturbating.
Guys like reading classics for hobby, girls like reading erotic novels for hobby.
Although I must admit that girls read more in general.
I'm putting "hobby" in the next "words you hate the most" thread by the way. It sounds awful... like hobbit + dobby.

Women like getting hurt. Why the fuck do you think they ask men to hit them all the time? They're a fucked up sex. This is why I forcefully made myself gay.

>Guys like porn for masturbating, girls like porn for masturbating.
Do you have a credible source that demonstrates that it is near-equal and thus valid to say this? Everything I have seen states that men overwhelm women in terms of porn-watching.

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>/threading your own post.
Is there anything more pretentious, more attention-seeking?

OK I'll actually change my statement since you're a tryhard.
20% of guys fuck, 80% watch porn (because they can't fuck. 99% of girls fuck, 1% watches porn (because they can't fuck).
The rest is the same:
Guys like reading classics for hobby, girls like reading erotic novels for hobby.

So there you go, porn is watch more by guys, but erotic novels (of the girls) isn't the equivalent of porn (of guys).

Also

That's a made up and grossly reductive statistic. Lots of men who get laid also watch plenty of porn.

Okay then give me a credible source which demonstrates that erotic novels are equivalent of porn for females.

>Kidnapping, BDSM, submission
>pretty hardcore stuff

Cute.

>Mammals have been shown to hug dolls made of barbed wire if that's what they're given
you are thinking of marmosets taking milk from a wire contraption and yet clinging to a facsimile of a female of their species for comfort
you fucking twit.

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Whose hand is that??

What about my post makes you think I'm a narcissistic sociopath? And, assuming I am one, what does that have to do with my being right/wrong?

>The softcore """"""romantic and female friendly"""""" porn is, ironically, watched mostly by males
Fucking nonsense argument. Men already watch porn at a much higher rate than women, so they may comprise the majority of viewers even on female-focused content. You should be looking at the ratio of women-to-men in the female-focused content as well as other male-focused content to get a sense of the difference.

Not that guy, here you go:

lmgtfy.com/?q=fifty shades of grey worldwide sales

>Guys like reading classics for hobby
I sincerely doubt this as well. I think you overestimate how many guys enjoy this.

>The softcore """"""romantic and female friendly"""""" porn is, ironically, watched mostly by males
Thank fuck, I thought I was a fag for watching intimate piv

>owning more than one copy
Which is your personal favorite?

I’m starving for pussy

>stpeach
she is ugly, and yet men keep entertaining her

well women who love bdsm claim that the book is not hardcore enough

women are very imaginative because they are smart enough to be pragmatic which is the repetition of sex and drama; it is a good thing that they do not need to create a depth of fantasies to get off

yes all women are like thisyes thank you /pol/ philosopher thanks yes

I fucking hate sex and lust and every other thing involved. If I had a gf of a wife I'd never want to fuck her. It's just fucking disgusting and degrading for everybody involved.
The problem is I still get aroused easily and I still masturbate frequently. I fucking hate it.

With that attitude I'm sure your gf or wife would hate sex too

moar

>she is ugly
it’s not about the face user

>Try actually looking at the kinds of porn & erotic novels women love, it's pretty hardcore stuff
>Kidnapping, BDSM, submission, women are the main crowd for this kind of stuff
The softcore """"""romantic and female friendly"""""" porn is, ironically, watched mostly by males

Men who explore sexual fetish take it to further extremes than women in my experience. Maybe as a fantasy this is not the case, but if you go onto fetlife.com it will be the men who are into the more depraved shit. I met a guy at one of those parties and he was going around asking other men to piss in his mouth. Girls usually get into stuff like bondage, and primal. Way more men actively in the scene as far as my city goes, however.

>The softcore """"""romantic and female friendly"""""" porn is, ironically, watched mostly by males
This is a convulated statement

convoluted

Also, the vast majority across all genders are submissive. Girls, guys, whatever. If you were to add up all the male and female D's as far as I can tell it's about the same ratio

A great sign of the Kali Yuga?
This, basically.

Also, our rampant sexual degeneracy (or instinctual misfiring, i.e. that male and femme are predominantly libidinally misaligned) is a side affect of our present Armageddon. We're on the edge of the era- but the Satya Yuga is dawning. As the corpulent, gluttonous imperial parasites wallow in self harm, the new youth (or at least a portion of them) look on in disgust, and some least will begin to reject the decadent monolotry of their progenitors and will gradually come to sanctify the life loving deities of multiplicity and the cyclical embrace of genuine difference once again.

Untrue

This really isn't true

Well I'm going out of my depth as I don't have any research. But as far as non-vanilla is concerned, there really isn't much disparity. Also a lot of D's start of as s.

Extraordinarily well put user. A+

Girls read erotic novels.
Guys watch porn, and read classics.
I know that a few guys do this, but it's still a lot more than girls.

Women have no taste

Watching porn invalidates your taste 9/10 times.

>Watching porn

Things (You) do but not

That they are more intelligent than men, because they get their porn from literature

Seriously. I can only get off to amateur porn, it's hot to see intimacy.
There was this one where, after they both came, the guy said he'd go make her lunch. She asked to come with and to "koala" him, basically wrapping her arms and legs around him while he carried her off to the kitchen. They were both giggling and happy. Why can't I have this?

Go to gym, get Veeky Forums and get a good haircut
Your autism will be much less of a problem then

>they find attractive guys attractive
damn..

That a good percentage of women like attractive, wealthy and domineering men. They enjoy being the center of attention and being introduced to mediocre sexual fantasies and kinks. They also like 'bad boys' whom in their mind they can manipulate into being theirs, making them strong not only by proximity but also by manipulation.

40% of men get offspring, 80% of females. So your sex stats on women are on point, but on men you are underestimating greatly.
I'd say 60-70% of men get sex, Pareto's law applies to the amount.

Get a job, get a house of your own

That some women like fantasising about a romanticised version of bondage. Anything else is conjecture.

Some chicks don't know good fetish porn, or are too shy/disgusted to watch it so they watch softcore. That's it.

This, coming from a guy that hasn't had any female interactions sans family members in a decade, is mildly amusing in a pathetic kinda way.

With this chick, you got the best of everything: she's light-skinned, got a cute face, plus the ass was fat. She never used to get my dick hard until she came out wearing this sexy swimsuit, showin' off her B cups and them sexy white legs. Bitch was lookin' thick as fuck...the ass was fat. Oh God, y'all should've seen this bitch in that bikini. She was lookin' fine. The ass was fat, and you can tell she had some good-ass pussy.

That anyone will read a shitty book for a sex scene or because it gets popular.