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The Monad reveals itself in all its glory

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Hegel and traditional philosophy are a great mix. Fuck the left Hegelians

>tfw read Guenon two years ago and noticed he was the most Veeky Forums person nobody on Veeky Forums ever mentioned
>name-dropped him in a bunch of threads for a year and he caught on
>now Veeky Forums is well-versed on both western and eastern thought

My work here is done

I've been namedropping and discussing him a bunch too. I also made this chart which people have been reposting. Our work is only beginning, user.

Checked. I guess it's time for us all to become the new intellectual vanguard Guenon talks about and help lead the West out of the Kali Yuga into a new metaphysical age. I'm about to put together the definitive Veeky Forums Hinduism chart which will include some of his work.

>tfw no red-pilled QT-Advaitist gf to drop acid with who has read the complete works of Adi Shankara, Plotinus and Zhuangzi

Guenon would despise the internet and do his best to tune its existence out.

It seems to me a contradiction to try and promote him on the internet, especially Veeky Forums.

I don't think you guys are reading him seriously.

I'm sick of people finding their next "intellectual" fix, going from Zizek to Peterson to Guenon. I don't mind people having influences. Influences take a long time. You have to carefully sift through the work over many years and digest it.

What you guys are doing is fashion trending and meme posting. Please stop.

People who really appreciate his worldview should feel nervous about even being on the internet (excepting basic email / media access functions). You should feel white hot shame for bringing him up here.

>>name-dropped him in a bunch of threads for a year and he caught on


Your lies only deceive yourself for I, the maker of this thread, am the force behind the Great Change that is to come.

You will be the first to have his light extinguished.

>Guenon would despise the internet and do his best to tune its existence out.
He wasn't against technology.

>mysticism

Petyr Baelish looking motherfucker

>against technology

Nobody is "against technology." Not even luddites. It has always been a matter of debate whether this or that technology is more trouble than it's worth.

The internet is a dark, noisy, dangerous landscape of egoism. It spreads lies more readily than truth. It is filled with pettiness, pornography, deliberate untruths, advertisements and things for sale.

I get very tired of hearing people talk about its usefulness. To me it is extremely obvious that the internet has an overwhelmingly negative effect on people, how they understand their world and how they project themselves.

The only reason why someone would defend this mess is an inability to be self-critical. Many of us spend hours a day on this and rather than admitting how horrible this is we pretend like it's somehow good and okay. I'm tired of that user.

If you think this shit is redeemable you've got a long, long way to go. Good luck.

And yet the internet is responsible for making way more people aware of and interested in Guenon and Traditionalism not to mention eastern thought generally than ever would have happened without it.

The internet would have been a validation of his view of societal decline the same as it validated Debord but as Guenon repeats throughout his works everything has its own proper place and role and one can be aware of and be apprehensive of the internet for contributing to Modernity while also recognizing it can be a valid tool for communication and learning.

Even when Guenon moved to Egypt he kept a close eye on the political, intellectual, and literature-related developments in the west and corresponded with all sorts of people, he didn't shut himself off from the world.

mysticism isn't the same as metaphysics user, try knowing what you are talking about before posting

>The internet is a dark, noisy, dangerous landscape of egoism. It spreads lies more readily than truth. It is filled with pettiness, pornography, deliberate untruths, advertisements and things for sale.
Guenon lived in Cairo, and he preferred it to Paris. Ever been to an Arab Shouk? Traditional countries have lots of dark shit in it cause plebs will be plebs. Totalitarianism that seeks to get rid of all the icky shit you don't like is not traditional. A real traditional country can handle the existence of these things without being overwhelmed by them.
>If you think this shit is redeemable you've got a long, long way to go. Good luck.
I don't think it's redeemable, and from the Traditional standpoint it doesn't NEED to be redeemed.

I am deeply afraid of people reading things, coming close to the real deal, coming close to serious challenges to modernity, and coming away with some shit to say at a fucking party.

Does that concern you too? Am I being too anxious?

I have been through a lot in the last 10 years, trying to unlearn all this fucking bullshit modernity taught me.

It's been like walking through a minefield. Just when I think I'm finally being honest, getting close to the truth, I realize I'm being an egotistical monster.

I spent years thinking I was worried about global poverty and war. In fact, all I wanted to do was feel like a good person.

I spent long periods of time infatuated with this or that thinker, watching their Youtube lectures, reading little bits. In fact, all I was doing was digesting infotainment and indulging the sensation of my own righteousness. Even this semi-confessional posture is probably full of self-deceiving bullshit.

It just seems impossible to engage with other humans sincerely on here, and it seems impossible to encounter ideas deeply. Everything is trivia and cereal boxes. We're all wearing the last thing we read on our sleeves, trying to seem smart to strangers we don't give a rat's ass about.

This just doesn't feel right. This whole place feels blighted.

Brother, I'm trying to ask you why you're making a Rene Guenon thread on the Veeky Forums literature board.

Surely you know this place is bad by now, that it misleads, that it wastes time, that it encourages bad thinking and bad habits.

Why do we keep coming here if we know it's a detour from our real journey in life?

And is making a Guenon thread just a strategy for side-stepping this knowledge? "It's okay to make threads and use the internet as long as we're promoting good ideas"

I don't buy it! We're supposed to be in bed, getting ready for hard work tomorrow!

but i don't have a job and haven't showered in a month

>Surely you know this place is bad by now
I'm not a baby who needs his hand held. I can handle "bad things".
>that it wastes time
That's why I limit my exposure to it. I'm not here everyday, but I've gotten so much value out of it that I'm not willing to let it go completely.
>that it encourages bad thinking and bad habits
I've gotten a lot of valuable advice and input from here as well.
>Why do we keep coming here if we know it's a detour from our real journey in life?
I don't know what my journey "in real life" is, frankly. I'm still trying to figure that out.
>And is making a Guenon thread just a strategy for side-stepping this knowledge? "It's okay to make threads and use the internet as long as we're promoting good ideas"
I probably found out about Guenon on a Veeky Forums thread. I don't remember for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised. Don't undersell this place. Appearances can be deceiving, it's worth more than you give it credit for. Take this conversation we're having, for example. I'd consider it a pretty valuable and important one, and if I wasn't online right now I wouldn't be having it. I don't have these kinds of conversations with my friends and family because they do not share any of these interests.
>I don't buy it! We're supposed to be in bed, getting ready for hard work tomorrow!
They aren't mutually exclusive. Just don't be up all night on Veeky Forums. Limit your time.

>I am deeply afraid of people reading things, coming close to the real deal, coming close to serious challenges to modernity, and coming away with some shit to say at a fucking party.

You can't help what other people do, it's inevitable with anything intellectual that a certain amount of people just get into so they can posture.

It's better to have it widely known with a few people only getting into it superficially than to have most people remain completely unaware of it.

If at a hypothetical future point it becomes common to hear people namedrop Guenon at parties like they do with French philosophers then he is already so well-known that it doesn't matter because the masses are waking up to the spook of modernity.

Thanks user. This will be a huge help!

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My fear is that the antidote will be made to participate in the poisoning.

I don't think that's unfounded or misguided. It is possible you are correct. The problem with "it's okay to use it a little" is that we are too self-deceiving to know what "a little" is.

For a long time, I have felt that the only possible solution to the awful noise of the internet (noise is a very good word to describe the essence of the internet) is a long, deep silence.

Too many of us are sharing too many opinions. Too few of us are quietly considering.

(Thomas Merton said something along the lines of "one should only engage in the interfaith after a long period of silence")

>the masses are waking up to the spook of modernity

This phrasing is dangerous. It is a good thing to want more people to know truth. It is a bad thing to think that such an expansion of truth will fix the world.

>This phrasing is dangerous. It is a good thing to want more people to know truth. It is a bad thing to think that such an expansion of truth will fix the world.

Knowing what the problem is isn't the same as fixing it, knowing is one step in the process. Without understanding what's wrong though there is no hope of ever fixing anything.

We should not even be trying to fix the world, is my point.

Guenon seems to have disagreed in his writings in 'East and West' on how he thought the West should try to develop its own understanding of Metaphysic and reorder society around such an understanding. I would agree with him on this point that hypothetically it would be a good thing. One could say that one cannot change that we are in the Kali Yuga or that attachment to the idea of changing society is a modernist tendency and one's personal spiritual path takes the utmost importance but ultimately I think there is something to the idea that something can be done and that Modernity is not endless and irreversible but just part of a cycle.

This. Let this degenerate world die

I have answer for all you hand-wringing Guenonfags.

If there is a metaphysical origin point / God / Monad it exists in the body. Experience is its emanation, its structure an emergent competing system of inputs we have named consciousness. And questions about the Internet or its purpose are pointless. It is here to stay. It is a new organ to Mankind, and we are still grafting to it. As for Kali Yuga or whatever don't doubt it: Mankind is mortal, and it has an end date. It was nearly time any number of occassions during the Cold War. One day we'll be cut down to extinction and culture will have had very little to do with it.

I dont want to die a modern man with interesting ideas. You dont either.

>This just doesn't feel right. This whole place feels blighted.
You really hate yourself. Your entire post is you projecting your insecurities onto the world and reading them again as belonging to others. No doubt there are a lot of stupid motherfuckers out there but don't blame yourself for not knowing how to be sincere. This is a tough world and sincerity clashes with 2018's cynicism farmers.

My own mortality is the only thing I really do control. I don't know what "modern man" means, unless you refer to misanthropes who don't know how to live in current year and disregard the manipulation of the spectacle. Know Thyself is as true now as ever, and that's what I'm doing to the day I die.

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This is now a platonist thread.

>I am deeply afraid of people reading things, coming close to the real deal, coming close to serious challenges to modernity, and coming away with some shit to say at a fucking party.
I agree. Esoteric knowledge needs to be withheld from the public, and only be taught to trusted initiates. The opposite would be unimaginably catastrophic.
>I have been through a lot in the last 10 years, trying to unlearn all this fucking bullshit modernity taught me.
I have just started unlearning myself. My journey started with an epiphany by the grace of God.
>It's been like walking through a minefield. Just when I think I'm finally being honest, getting close to the truth, I realize I'm being an egotistical monster.
Yes, the path towards initiation is filled with many perils along the way. In some ways, it's like fighting the Hydra.
>I spent long periods of time infatuated with this or that thinker, watching their Youtube lectures, reading little bits. In fact, all I was doing was digesting infotainment and indulging the sensation of my own righteousness. Even this semi-confessional posture is probably full of self-deceiving bullshit.
I also indulge myself in a few sitcom episodes from time to time. Luckily, I've cut the rest of digital media (except the internet and YT obviously) out of my life for good.
>It just seems impossible to engage with other humans sincerely on here, and it seems impossible to encounter ideas deeply.
Mostly true for Veeky Forums, but since this forum allows all types of speech with zero accountability, it is the only place where a discourse can reach its truest potential.
>This just doesn't feel right. This whole place feels blighted.
Even the dimmest light becomes more pronounced as the darkness grows.

You've fucked it all up. Fuck off you fag

>not to mention eastern thought generally than ever would have happened without it.
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>This just doesn't feel right. This whole place feels blighted.
It is. I hope they leave Guenon alone. Evola was already enough

This whole thread is autistic. I don't think Americans will ever get to a good level of understanding of it.

I believe Plato is viewed as a sage in the Sufi tradition...

>t. Jewish agent of the Demiurge

>t. Larping /x/er

That poster was saying that the internet is responsible for more people becoming interested in eastern thought than would have become interested in it without the internet.

>I spent years thinking I was worried about global poverty and war.