What the fuck happened to this place?

this completely. The internet is too large and 4chins is too well known not to share in the crapflood going on bc social media got everyone online. Itll just bring another wave of atomization with ppl going to smaller groups and leaving them when they get too shitty

we should migrate to 8ch tbhdesusempai

It's going to get worse with Pewdiepie's reading group. I don't mind literature or philosophy becoming more popular so long as it isn't for a bad reason and he's that reason.

This meme is garbage. Wait until summer and then blame it on that influx, or keep posting about your inability to engage and raise the discourse to your suitable standards. You're just looking to link yourself with better people so you can think of yourself as one of them, yet you can't even find a creative way to draw those people to your thread.

I seriously hate this meme, except that it always follows with a sincere attempt by some new idiot who attempts to be clever or engage people and then you all tease them into silence.
You're pathetic, you're boring, you're wasting good air and the peace of the world with your presence.

Get the fuck out of my sunlight!

I was a regular a few years back and occasionally drop in from time to time.

The day-to-day content is mostly the same. Somewhat depressingly, the same topics and authors/public figures incite the same reactions as a few years ago.

If you've noticed a drop in quality, I'd attribute it to less users who are actually studying literature and/or philosophy.

...

I've been coming to Veeky Forums since the beginning, and I still like it. It's fun to meme and shitpost with people who actually read literature and philosophy, the contrast of high art and pop art is amusing.

i'd say in the past year

we have this thread every week

I blame the /pol/ boogeyman for fucking up my board.

>with people who actually read literature and philosophy
What a newfag. The beginning of the YEAR probably

>Pewdiepie's reading group
Is that really happening? Thought it was just a meme

I honestly don't know. Maybe I'm getting too old, or maybe the quality really is dropping. I don't know. I don't even remember what I do on this site, or the threads I read. Might have been that two months ago the quality was shit? I don't know. I've definitely noticed more /pol/ garbage though - maybe that's it?

I come here on and off. Last time people kept shitposting about Žižek and now they keep shitposting Crime & Punishment and some closet nazis poured it which is normal for this generation of Veeky Forums users I guess.

Hopefully one day you'll have achievements to be proud of, friends with whom you have an emotional and intellectual connection, and a rich full life, then you'll no longer feel the urge to come on here.

I like to think of this site as a true representation of humanity. No matter how garbage it seems, we will still keep going. None of us feel like this place is bad enough to just leave, similar to how life can be shit but isn’t THAT shit, and we’ll forever keep the site active

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I've seen some good race discussion threads being fucked up by polfags. Nietzche is impossible to discuss here.

>good race discussion threads
what on earth do you mean by this. 'polfags' are the only ones who even admit that race exists

he doesn't know what he means, he just knows that it has to be someone else's fault

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That’s sums up everyone ever

What does exist?

Meta on /qa/ only.
All meta discussion of boards is to be redirected to /qa/

I might be confusing this board with another, my bad.
pointing out the obvious shit =/= blaming others for problems

this. probably.

Wrong. I’ve only listened to half of a jbp lecture

gay
/pol/ destroys discourse and is the bane of interesting discussion you can whine and meme all you want you fucking faggots are the dumbest most unthinking niggers ever to post on this site a homogenized sea of propagandist swine
shut the fuck up

stop drinking the rocket fuel caffeine, joe rogan. your posting levels are off the charts. put down the phone.

>/pol/ destroys discourse and is the bane of interesting discussion
I've had many interesting discussions with /pol/, your problem is that you can't have an interesting discussion with them and yet keep responding to them like the masturbating intellectual nowhere you are.

you seem flustered

>I've had many interesting discussions with /pol/
are you retarded lad?

Sucking repubcock is not having an interesting discussion, user.

I remember coming here and see unironic marxists. Now they arent anymore. I like currrent Veeky Forums better.

>pol
>republicans
The Neo-cons are like upwards of 50% Jewish

Name one discussion with /pol/ that doesn't end in "whites are genetically superior, this explains all differences" or/and "the jews have subverted western society, this explains all of our problems".

>are you retarded lad?
no just interesting :^)
>let's make assumptions and default to a copypasta argument
are you on the internets so people don't yawn in your face?

>le jew meme
Christ go back to your containment board.
Do you act smug on the internet for fun or to compensate?

>Name one discussion with /pol/ that doesn't end in "whites are genetically superior, this explains all differences"
The Irish are not white, and Flann O'Brien shitposters versus /pol/ is hilarious
>"the jews have subverted western society, this explains all of our problems".
Do you literally not read books?

I didn,t say i believed in Jew memes I said pol do not like Republicans. It would be like saying Marxists like HIllary and the Dems

no i'm interesting enough i can afford to be smug IRL too. try it sometime

Where the hell do I go for substantive literary conversation?

>Flann O'Brien shitposters
don't summon them, there are gullible monolinguals in this thread

One man's interesting is another man's weird ;^)
Join a book club, or find an online forum that isn't Veeky Forums or reddit.

>The Irish are not white, and Flann O'Brien shitposters versus /pol/ is hilarious
Aha... Hope you're okay.
>Do you literally not read books?
>dude, you don't take my psuedo-psychology theories seriously?

I do read but I mostly only come here for the "write what's on your mind" threads to complain about my life because I'm too mature for /r9k/.

>One man's interesting is another man's weird ;^)
maybe if you didn't want to be a normie, you could have better less boring conversations?
>never read a classic
IKR it's like people won't call you a pseud for not reading DH Lawrence letters to Russell now, what's up with that? Maybe you can talk to above, user, I'm sure he has a copypasta response to your copypasta response which won't involve virgins or gypsies in a Romantic sense, just a normie sense with poor literacy. You know you like that better. Go make out with him :3

How exactly is that relevant to jews you mouth breather

2 months... 2 months.... hmmm

>How exactly is that relevant to jews you mouth breather
You'd have to read a book to find out, I'm sure you don't have to concern yourself with it.

Instead of complaining,can you explain clearly in what way the old Veeky Forums was better than today's ?

more traps more cats.

People posted cute pictures of cats and talked liek thiz and there were no politics

-less averse to OC
-overall better OC culture
-fewer unashamed newfags

It has been raided by /pol/, /leftypol/ and /r/badphilosophy.

Accurate account desu
/sp/ was truly amazing back in those days. I still blame mods for how the site is now. One of the main reasons Veeky Forums was always better was because of a lack of moderation in many aspects. Crossposting was never really tolerated but totally off-topic threads that were part of board culture were still allowed, possibly because these always came about in off-hours? Deep sea threads on /sp/ probably being the best answer. Then the crackdown happened and now the policing here is as prevalent as it is on r/eddit. Yet for some reason, maybe they don't want to upset the income that it provides, they refuse to moderate out /pol/ nonsense where it doesn't belong. Back to was so common for so long and always dealt with, but now that it's back to the mods just don't seem to care.

Pretty much this. Political extremism on both sides (and the center, somehow) coupled with retards that think they're deep because they took a CC semester on metaphysics and own an unopened edition of Critique of Pure Reason have absolutely trashed discourse.

>adding those last two as if they are anything of note
lel

This isn't 1920s Paris. The only place where you can find a wide variety of people with a deep interest in literature is online. I wish, WISH, that I could go to my local bar, sit down with some author friends and talk about literature, but it won't happen ever again. Our types have to be content with never meeting face to face.

>interesting discussions with /pol/
This is literally not possible.

my belief in this becomes weaker with every passing night

That's because you're from /pol/

>online forum that isn't Veeky Forums or reddit.
For quality discussion that is fairly rapid this doesn't exist.

No identity politics bullshit, people entered a thread about X and would discuss X, not about politics. There was less drama about women, when people talked about being a virgin it was a countdown to wizardry. Last but not least, crossposting, posting shit straight out of imgur/funnyjunk/9gag/facebook and normalfaggotry is normalized. No one cares about lurking anymore, instead newfags arrive and think posting low effort, blatant offtopic shit is classic Veeky Forums (that's when they're not killing OC).

>implying all those things are equally bad
/pol/ is the only real problem.

I'm 2009 and I post "low effort, blatant offtopic shit" occasionally because it never fails to gives me a laff. You're right about everything else though.

Reddit then, some parts of Veeky Forums will have to do

i truly wonder where you two come from

>jews were portrayed negatively in my favourite books, thus jews evil and bad! Grug hate!

+more traps
+more cats
+more OC
+less reddit
+less newfags in general
+zero politics
+less offtopic nonsense
+no one cared about SJW culture
+no one cared about normie culture

-slower

I came in early 2016 but rarely posted. Even between then and now the quality seems to have gone down

You see this new form of reddit moderation very clearly on the big boards; /tv/ is a very good example. Board culture threads get constantly deleted (sometimes even stuff that is straight up on-topic, but is not to the tastes of whatever autistic janitor is watching) but porn spam and other obvious off-topic bait threads will reach into 200+ replies.
There's a 'reylo general -yes, a general dedicated to two characters from star wars - that's been going on /tv/, that's literally babysat by a mod or janitor. If you post in the thread telling them to fuck off, there's a good chance you'll get banned. It's absolutely insane.

except they only post lowbrow garbage
People in r/books only read dumb sffg shit so they can call themselves "readers" because they think it's a badge of honor that they actually pick up a book, same goes for r/writing. only r/literature is salvageable but it's too slow

You can tell the board is shit because every reply to anything political is 'huh go back to pol' rather than 'fuck off faggot'.

/pol/ is the new /b/, dumb newfag.

And Veeky Forums isn't the same Ayn Rand, Nietzche and Peterson threads every day?

Muhh /pol/ wwwaaahhhh. You are part of the problem

Everything everyone else has said really. Death of OC culture is a major issue although I feel there are still some memes that embody the spirit of classic Veeky Forums. Bogdanoffs are a recent example.

You're a retard. Telling people to go back to /b/ was around way before /pol/ even existed.

The other day we tried to have a
>What are modern day Veeky Forums cities like 1920s Paris?
thread. It got deleted after 10 minutes but at that same time a blatant /pol/ thread about identity politics with ZERO discussion about Veeky Forums topics AT ALL at over 200 posts.

Fuck off newfag

If you think people complaining about /pol/ don't have a legitimate concern you're a moron.

the problem is that Leftists are accustomed to shitting out their unexamined polticial views at all times, but hyper sensitive to any right wing ideas so they think there is some pol invasion when really it is just a minority of rightism in a sea of complacent leftism

here's a pretty hilarious thread much like this one from all the way back in 2012
Come and see these older people and their primitive ways. Analyze what they considered the biggest threats to their security. Compare this to how the board actually ended up six years later. Write a one page rescript on the problems that faced the community at that time and compared with the historical record as you know it. Due March 5th at the end of class time. (Note: other sources may be used, but make sure to add a citation in the footnote)

Source:
warosu.org/lit/thread/S2772550

It happens to all of us, a board you love seems to always be great, and then one day, it's crap. It's not the board, it's you.

I'm unironically convinced that my baits got so great that they changed the board for the worse.

>tfw the Tower of Babel was about keeping Veeky Forums away from the rest of the internet

I remember those days. Before /pol/ destroyed everything good about Veeky Forums. I miss our /mu/ rivals.

No they really aren't, no matter how many people whine about /pol/ it will never reach the fucking deluge of clickbait reposts and low effort bait they flood every single board with.

it's interesting to note that about half of the people use what would now be referred to as "reddit spacing"

Veeky Forums is on decline

Exhibit A: /pol/ shitposter feigning intellectual prowess.

There aren't even that many /pol/tards and most people don't even bother replying to them.