Zizek

Is there anyone more destructive to human progress than this absolute turd of a man?

Imagine having this much hatred of logic, science and rationality.
Imagine denying human biological instincts.
Imagine actually being dumb enough a marxist.
Imagine being able to brainwash countless amounts of college attending young people.

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inb4 faggots say
>hurr he makes sum gud points

Go to bed Kermit Lobster the Dragon Slayer.

This isn't literature. Fuck off to /pol/, ya dumb cnut

You are really overrating this guy

>human progress

Lol.

>logic, science and rationality.

Lol.

>denying human biological instincts.

Lol.

>dumb enough a marxist.

Sic.

This is all the effort you deserve.

None of these posts are arguments.
They are butthurt shitposts.
lmao

HE'S DESTROYING WHITENESS AND MASCULINITY THROUGH POSTMODERNIST CULTURAL MARXISM

read Peterson for proof

He is a weirdo, unironically being a Marxist, but to call him the most destructive human being? He knows philosophy rather well, more so than many others, so it's worth checking his point of view. He's also a rather funny meme machine, and a bit distanced from reality. People like Peterson or that black science guy from YT are much more destructive. The world needs a few Zizeks here and there, the breed being rare, but we don't need pseuds like the youtube intellectuals.

Your post isn't an argument. So by your own admission, it is a butthurt shit

>this entire non argument butthurt leftist post
imagine being this guy lmao

he, he's just a classic marxist
and a faggot with shit arguments
kill yourself

>He knows philosophy rather well
enough to destroy it
>he's also a rather funny meme machine
if you're from leftypol and a brain damaged self hating autist sure


>People like Peterson or that black science guy from YT are much more destructive.
Explain WHY?
You can't.
Zizek deserves to hang.

>pseuds
holy fuck the irony lol I bet you're against sociobiology

My original post was an argument.
You have yet to refute it.

Yes, there are thousands of people more destructive to human progress than this guy. Now go fuck off back to /pol/ retard.

Zizekfaggots are typically marxist teenagers who hate themselves.

Zizek just spews whatever word salad comes from his brain and refuses to argue with anybody.
The world would be a better place if we killed zizek and his drone followers.

ITT: Insecure betas

Zizek puts out like 10 big think videos a week,

the guy is a youtube e-celeb

I never understood why poeple think he's a marxist.

I thought he just tries to give all ideology a fair and unbaised treatment. So when someone like him isn't saying "OMG pinko commie scum, holodomor was a tragedy" we assume he is automatically for it.

>Yes, there are thousands of people more destructive to human progress than this guy.
Maybe not thousands, but zizek if def in the top 200.

>marxists
>not betas
Your entire evolution denialist ideology revolves around being PROUD of being a beta.
kill yourself lmao

Fighting for your class interests is the opposite of self-hatred, my man.

>I never understood why poeple think he's a marxist.
because he's admitted he is a marxist
are you retarded?

>class interests
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
holy shit you people actually think you will benefit from taking over the means of production
you ALSO deny evolution
enjoy your nonsense religion
fucking die lmao

Zizek is the biggest ideological cuck that there is.
He denies race(anti-racism is an ideology).
He's a marxist(marxism is a cult).

zizek is alright, he is just an old guy who doesn't give a fuck about politics and just copy/pastes from his previous texts for money when somebody asks him to write something

that's a capitalist spirit that we should all respect

Are there actually marxists on Veeky Forums?

How dumb do you have to be?
I bet you all make 10k a year and live in poverty.

zizek and peterson are both absolute retards

Zizek is far worse though

>fucking die lmao
Thanks for this well-balanced and fair reply.

>HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>holy shit you people actually think you will benefit from taking over the means of production
>you ALSO deny evolution
>enjoy your nonsense religion
>fucking die lmao

name 1 thing that is good

protip you can't

I love when you wastes of life ignore the arguments in people's posts and only focus on the insults because you can't refute the arguments yourselves.
The center of your brain responsible for critical thinking skills is much smaller than the average person.
This is why you care about "class interests".
Explain to me how taking over the means of production will benefit you, you brainlet.
You literally cannot.

>My original post was an argument.

False. It was an assertion, followed by a fourfold request to imagine. None of these constitute an argument, neither alone nor in conjunction.

Next!

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It never ends lmao

Cock

/pol/ shitposting is just the worst. Even the /r9k/ nofap bullshit is more tolerable.

That's because no one has defined race, it's essential components and the constraints of the definition. It's certainly not a physical reality, but an abstraction. Ethnicity is less abstract but it's equally difficult to define the limits of the abstraction.

He looks disgusting and smells bad. That's enough for me to cross him off as trash

>nothing with fuzzy boundaries exists
we are fucked, you just destroyed everything, we have to start from 0 (which is a number, which doesn't exist really)

Do you have a monopoly on insults? You talk like a kid, you're still young and have alot to learn.

>assertion
which you cannot refute

>/pol/ shitposting is just the worst
Anything regarding race is /pol/?
tell me more.

>That's because no one has defined race
Science has though.

Alloco 2007 looked at RANDOM locations of SNPs and found that, using random SNPs, you still get very good correspondence between self-ID and best fit genetic cluster:
Using as few as 100 randomly selected SNPs, they found a roughly 97% correspondence between self-reported ancestry and best-fit genetic cluster:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1828730/pdf/1471-2164-8-68.pdf

Also these races have massively varying behavioral characteristics, EVEN WHEN CONTROLLING FOR ENVIRONMENT
Race is real.
Please die.

ANOTHER post with no argument, nothing about his "class interests".

Just close the tab if you don't want to discuss your braindead ideology you batshit insane marxist/socialist/leftist, whatever the fuck you are.
Just die.

>Your entire evolution denialist ideology revolves around being PROUD of being a beta.
I hope you're baiting

t. leftist beta

t. 1/20th Irish amerimutt

>which you cannot refute

So you concede it was not an argument. 1-0 for me. This is all too easy. Now, as for me not being able to refute it: "Your assertion is false". I have now provided an assertion of equal force, merit and credibility to yours, and has successfully refuted your original assertion. 2-0 for me.

Next!

Zizek says "human nature isn't real".

Why would we listen to this absolute pseudo-intellectual?

WHY?

t. classcuck boot licker

This board really has gone to shit

I'm not even american and LOL you can't even refute what I'm saying.

>Now, as for me not being able to refute it: "Your assertion is false".
It doesn't work like that.
Explain how my points are incorrect.
This you absolutely cannot do.
I'm waiting.

> I bet you're against sociobiology
>Thinks sociobiology is a doctorine
SCIENCE
IT JUST WORKS

>classcuck
HAHAHAHAHA
You people are in a fucking CULT.
You cannot use logic and reason to refute anything I'm saying.
Taking over the means of production will not benefit you.
Your "class" having power will not improve your personal well being OR your freedom.
It's impossible.
Refute me, you cannot.
Please die already you self hating cunt.

But human nature isn't real, it changes all the time and if you believe in evolution that's even more true. It certainly isn't static.

>It doesn't work like that.

The burden of proof is on you; you provided the original assertion. I am not to explain why you are incorrect before you have explained why you are correct. You're quite poor at argumentation. Perhaps you should read an introductory book on reasoning.

3-0 for me.

Next!

>zizek isn't ideological
>human nature doesn't exist
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


This is what these people actually believe.

>SCIENCE IS AN EVIL RACIST, CAPITALIST CONSPIRACY
I can't stop fucking laughing, it's incredible how dumb and brainwashed you people are.
You're in a cult.
You deny the human brain exists.

Lmao keep saying that while we put you against the wall.

What I meant in criticising YT intellectuals vs Zizek was more of a recognition of intent rather than a strict differentiator. Zizek is in tons of videos, yes, but I gather he's in there because he thinks he genuinely has ideas to share and stuff to tell. He doesn't seem to be there for the money, not having a channel or Patreon (correct me if I'm wrong), whereas all the fucking Dave Rubins, Joe Rogans, Jordan Petersons are in the game particularly because of that. I take a genuine meme Zizek over a bunch of literal whos with nothing of remote interest to say.

>But human nature isn't real
Hardwired biological instincts aren't real?
I know you guys hate science, logic and reason, but come on.

>The burden of proof is on you
Nope kiddo, it's really on you.
I had an assertation you couldn't refute.
Why is Zizek not a pseudo-intellectual faggot?
Explain why you believe his theories are correct.

>Lmao keep saying that while we put you against the wall.
You ACTUALLY think your precious socialist revolution will EVER take place? It already happened and it failed.
Nobody wants that shit again.

It's like you're waiting for the second coming of christ or something.
When people explain to you that your cult makes no sense you get angrily and mentally block them out.

These are all of the signs of a cult.

can anyone accurately represent any argument of zizek or are you just racemixed retard anime posting nigger pieces of shit?

honestly, if you hate him at least put his head on the altar

personally i cant be bothered to listen to him because he sounds like one of those droopy-cheeked dogs with a mouth full of shit trying to speak english

Zizek is just an attention whore.
He's wrong about nearly everything but that doesn't stop him from spewing his garbage and IGNORING any criticism.
I'd take Joe Rogan over Zizek any day.

Why do zizekfags and other marxist cucks ignore ANY criticism of their religious cult?

WHY?

I live in a social democracy, could be worse. I thank the gods everyday that we nationalised the natural resources.

Reminder that the blank slate theory has already been debunked by science.

>b-but marx thought all human action was the result of economic forces
The same arguments apply.
Marx was wrong about this.

>I live in a social democracy
I feel bad for you.
One day will will destroy the parasitical religion known as democracy.

>Your in a cult
>You deny that the human brain exists.
All you can pragmatically know about me is that I think you are silly for treating science as dogma.
Furthermore judging from what you have to say, you know fuck all about what you are talking about. You probably haven't even read any primary literature in sociobiology and definitely don't understand it's criticisms.
What I think is that sociobiology rests on a flawed foundation of materialist biology, and so do most it's criticisms that have been articulated.
You are obviously a filthy casual.
ex/b/tards hijacking a 30 year old controversy to full their autism is not okay, fuck off.

>Nope kiddo,

Ad hominem. 4-0.

>I had an assertation you couldn't refute.

That which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. 5-0.

>Why is Zizek not a pseudo-intellectual faggot?

Strawman. My only claim has been that you have not provided an argument. Not that Zizek is not a "pseudo-intellectual faggot". 6-0.

>Explain why you believe his theories are correct.

Another strawman. I never claimed this. 7-0.

There really isn't much sport to this.

>All you can pragmatically know about me is that I think you are silly for treating science as dogma.
I don't treat it as dogma.
It explains how human beings work though and that's what makes sense.

>Furthermore judging from what you have to say, you know fuck all about what you are talking about. You probably haven't even read any primary literature in sociobiology and definitely don't understand it's criticisms.
Wow, these ENTIRE 2 sentences said absolutely nothing.
>hurr ur dum
ok kid

>What I think is that sociobiology rests on a flawed foundation of materialist biology
Which is wrong.
The human brain does exist.
Why do we have to explain this to you.
I mean, it's incredible how we have brain scans, genetic studies, actual HARD science and yet you ignore it because your religion tells you to.
Fucking incredible.
Why haven't you killed yourself already?

>/pol/tard
>hoppean lolbert
>anime poster
you are aware that for all your talk of biological impulses you will never procreate right

>That which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. 5-0.
Really?
So there is no evidence that Zizek KNOWS what he's talking about.

I guess we have to rely on the default position that Zizek doesn't know what he's talking about.
hehe

I have a gf and a pretty decent life lmao.
The funny thing is I don't care about any of this petty shit.
I just want to get you people to question your religion.
You've had nothing but ad hominem attacks so far.

You people are modern creationists that deny evolution and science.
It's incredible you brainlets even exist lol

The part of your brains responsible for critical thinking is much smaller than the average person, this is why you're doing this.

So, assuming you're right, you'd take a midbrow guy regurgitating midbrow thinking and politics, that normies can identify with, over a guy talking about Marx, Lacan and Hegel? Even if the latter is wrong in what he says, he's still more productive dialectically than your echo chamber that you can comfortably sit down with, listen to, shake head agreeably in false conviction of your and Rogan's intellect, and then link it to your idiot friends on Facebook. Definition of a pseud, even if I'm projecting a bit.

>there are actual people that deny neuroscience and evolutionary psychology and believe that IDEOLOGY dictates all human action

It's incredible that these people even exist.

all your posts are screeching incoherent ramblings and nobody is taking you seriously in here. i read all your posts with contempt, they aren't even amusing.

>over a guy talking about Marx, Lacan and Hegel?
Every single one of these people should have had their skulls smashed into concrete.
Why would I care about someone who idolizes these people?

>he's still more productive dialectically
No, he's talking about old ways of thinking which have been debunked, if he talked about sociobiology and brain science it would be much more productive.

How does society benefit by bringing back young earth creationism and pseudoscience?

>all your posts are screeching incoherent ramblings and nobody is taking you seriously in here
You're angry as fuck and projecting.
It's amazing you're still able to post at this point.
All I care about is people responding to my arguments and points.
You've only responded with butthurt lol
I bet you're a marxist.

It's SOOOOOO fucking funny when actual race science and sociobiology is posted that NOBODY can refute it and can only respond with asspain.

see:

alright what a great thread

goodnight faggot pseuds lol

Wow this whole thread turned to shit fast
OP Zizek isn’t a danger to society and his criticisms of capitalism are valid

>brain scans, genetic studies
>Hard science
Wrong. Niether of those things have any method of determining what the data means, they can't because they don't recognize the existence of meaning in the first place.
I bet you are against biosemiotics kek you dumb cultist, kys.
Biology isn't physics sweetie. I am an actual life scientist and you are a flithy fucking psued. Fuck off.

>human progress
lmao

you're gay

wtf is going on in this thread? does weekend Veeky Forums always look like this?

Zizek is a rorcharch test. I like how he brought out the shit in Veeky Forums so quickly

>Marxism denies evolution
This is the funniest shit I've read all day. Engels was one of the early dudes to get really excited about the implications of darwinism and wrote about it ("The part played by labour in the transition from ape to man"). Historical materialism fits with Darwin exceptionally well.

Historical materialism is just a silly version of ecology and evolution

It's just the common sense notion that human social history is primarily moved by the production and reproduction of real life, which conditions (but doesn't crudely determine) other forms of organization which relate back to production.
It's literally the most reasonable method of social analysis, but it's rejected for political reasons. Pick up a sociology textbook sometimes and you'll grasp how other schoold are full of shit.

it's a meme as soon as you sneak in something like alienation, which amounts to sneaking in human nature to your model without acknowledging it

Ecological humanities and soon also biosemiotics are better.
But I agree, it was like how you said for a long time.

I don't agree with marxist alienation but it was getting at something, ecological (sensu lato) alienation.

he is spot on on a lot of things tho

>Become famous defending classical German philosophy against postmodernism
>Famous for extended exchange against Judith Butler
>Defends the cogito against post-structuralism
>Defends the legacy of Christianity and argues for its continued political relevance.
>Defends Europeans being Eurocentric
>Spends a career calling out the negative effects of political correctness
>Take what is basically the right wing line on the Europeans migrant crisis
>Is hated by feminists, LGBT activists, and routinely called a racist and reactionary by other Marxists

>right wingers think you are an undergrad-tier critical race theorist or something.

His entire books are always him arguing against everybody. One of his most popular books is a series of essays where he, Judith Butler and Laclau all argue against each other. The range of sources he draws from is monumental.

He explicitly calls himself a Marxist and wrote two massive books reforumlating and defending dialectical materialism. Zizek has been a famous Marxist academic since the 80s.

...

>He explicitly calls himself a Marxist
that's just for memetic reasons, being a marxist doesn't follow from any of this theory, it's just a stance he takes a priory because he is some sort of romantic

>kek
audibly laughed at this

7/10 larping, unoriginal but somewhat good

these meme intellects (zizek, peterson, etc) have very little effect on human progress.....positively or negatively

What do you mean?
youtu.be/Vf5L6kwJJtA

>Step foward: we hear
>That you are a good man.
>You cannot be bought, but the lightning
>Which strikes the house, also
>Cannot be bought.
>You hold to what you said.
>But what did you say?
>You are honest, you say your opinion.
>Which opinion?
>You are brave.
>Against whom?
>You are wise.
>For whom?
>You do not consider personal advantages.
>Whose advantages do you consider then?
>You are a good friend
>Are you also a good friend of the good people?

>Hear us then: we know
>You are our enemy. This is why we shall
>Now put you in front of a wall.
>But in consideration of
>your merits and good qualities
>We shall put you in front of a good wall and shoot you
>With a good bullet from from a good gun and bury you
>With a good shovel in the good earth.

Can you give some reading reccs for these? I've been reading into historical materialism a lot and I'd genuinely like to see contemporary debates/improvements on these concepts.

>>that's just for memetic reasons
>What do you mean?
i am not sure if you are asking me or responding with that video?

>You cannot use logic and reason to refute anything I'm saying.
You aren't either

Let's be honest, regardless of one's political position land needs to be collectively managed in some way, independent of other factors of production.

Does it not? He explicitly is trying to recover some notion of Marxism, his major field of innovation is on Marx’s Theory of ideology. A lot of the rest of Marxism he does basically accept.

>unknown by vast majority of the population
>Rejected by neo-marxists
>Wildly anti-social
>"Is there anyone more destructive?"
You have to be retarded

Not at all. are you fucking crazy?
Name me one politician you know that you would trust to expropriate and distribute land in an even remotely fair or acceptable manner

>logic, science and rationality.
Turn off "Richard Dawkins Destroys Feminism Pt. 12" and read a book kiddo