What has reading literature taught you about women, Veeky Forums?

Very conflicted, I no longer see women as equal to men but I realize that sexual frustration and social isolation are breeding grounds for resentful people who either fall into nihilism or political extremism like /pol/.

The True Detective /tv/ copypasta says it best, a man without a family can be a bad thing past a certain age.

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There, this is exactly what I'm talking about (re: sexual frustration leading to political extremism and giving us /pol/)

I have your answer:

You, yourself, your existence, and the absolutely present worth therein, are not subject to the whims of women. Or others, for that matter. You are more than the number of holes you've touched/licked/had intercourse with. To consider yourself less is to attach your identity, your very soul to something as mundane, fleeting, and worthless as women.

Now go do something great with yourself.

Fight for a world where women are proud to get white men like us. Where they are happy to be subservient to virtuous men instead of degenerates libtards and nonwhites

its made me like them more, im not such a brainlet that schop and neechee could actually make me hate women anymore than i already did. all the pua, elliot rodgers, lookism stuff was plainly obvious to me before i even posted online

>make me hate women anymore than i already did
Based. They are simply inferior to you and me

The true patrician's answer.

I learned that women lie a lot from La Vida Es Sueño

It made me aware that women ruin everything they're involved in. You ever seen them tryhard reviews on Goodreads with dozens of GIF's? A women did that and the site is awful because of them.

this

Fellow MGTOWs? We should start a Weninger reading group against women and feminism

women are spooks. All of them, literally as in they don' t exist. If they did I would've fucked one of them by now.

That very few authors understand women. Most of the writing reads like a snarky tweet with a gif attached for increased effect.

>/pol/ and /r9k/
>productive
I mean, they can be time sinks, but I don't know about productivity.

>patrician
>"I only read the classics"
A real patrician knows and is invested in the movements of his time, ready to change and start more movements himself.

That even the greatest intellectual powerhouses in all of human history could not understand women.

Tolstoy though

The only way to learn about women is by interacting with them and gaining that experience. Some books do accurately show the nature of women (both the beautiful and ugly side of them), but others do a horrible job. So if you just read and you don't gain personal experience, you won't be able to filter the good information from the bad. Furthermore, while I do think there are certain attributes that are common among most women, these characteristics are mixed with individuality as well.

For example, good pick up artists have a strong understanding of the side of women that can be generalized. But they are unable to understand the individual, human element of them. Hence why they can never manage a long term relationship. And if they do, they often end up with a divorce. Plus, the types of girls that pick up artists go for, are generally the more stereotypical girls that can be manipulated. In other words, girls who have weak individual personalities. Essentially walking pussies (who compliment pick-up artists well since they are basically walking dicks).

Anyone in a good marriage however, has to have a strong understanding of both the gender side of the girl, and the individual side of her. And the same vise-versa for the wife. A healthy relationship means understanding a person not just in how they are dictated by their sex, but also by what makes them an individual.

Before I changed myself and become more open and comfortable around women. I read a lot literature, but good literature focuses mostly on the individual side of women. Or perhaps in how women struggle with balancing their individuality with the demands of their gender. Anna Karenina is a great example of this. What makes this literature is that it deals with the human condition. Its about showing the beauty and tragedy of the human conflict of trying to assert your will and personality over the desires demanded by your genitalia. But with literature you generally learn more about individuals than about "girls" or "guys".

I don't read any erotica or racy romance novels. But if you want to understand the archetypal female side of girls, then I think you could probably learn a lot by reading erotica aimed at women.

But even then, the only way to really start understanding them is by flirting with them and gaining experience in relationships with them. Learning about the opposite sex can only be done with experience.

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reading stuff perpetrated to paper by women has gotten me convinced of them being intellectually inferior to man.

the disparity in ratio "shitty to good authors" from female to male is insane

at best they can manage YA or even kidsfiction, which they somehow excel at

beyond that - no chance

sorry for bad english
germanfag

I'm pretty sure that's b/c they're reflections of your anima. Chad says he has no idea why anyone would have a hard time with girls b/c he's seeing reflections of his shoddy plastic made in china anima

That there is a time for women but the greatest of men do not obsess over it. Once obsession occurs she ceases to be the virgin and becomes the temptress.
Also women should be commended for their role in raising children and this should never be viewed as shameful or degrading.

You write well user, don't let your self worth be defined by women, or social relationships in general. The deck is stacked against young men in the West who aren't turbochads. If current statistics are any indicator, situations like yours and mine are becoming increasingly common. Maybe that's not a consolation, but it makes me feel like less of a loser at least. Misery loves company after all.

Aristophanes taught me that women's suffrage was a colossal mistake

CAN'T LIVE WITH EM CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT EM GG

"Du gehst zu Frauen? Vergiss die Peitsche nicht!"

is this pasta?

Kant died a virgin. Don't listen to the normie revisionists.
Nietzsche died a virgin.
Schopenhauer likely didn't have sex for the last thirty five years of his life.

Men such as these did not give more than a solitary tinker's fuck about "the game." Spend your time experiencing the really beautiful parts of life. Don't waste it pining over the lucky fact that you're not doggedly tailing intoxicated demireps.

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I'm sure Kant, Beethoven, Isaac Newton, Mozart etc. were just trying to get noticed by women/would rather be happy doing things that humans are programmed to enjoy instead of creating turboautist shit

Mozart got all the bitches, but I see what you're saying.

I think probably true but Newton might be an exception, the guy was insane. Kierkegaard also left his woman to devote himself to religion

KIRKAGAARDE CONFIRMED FOR FAGGOT

Isaac and Immanuel were turboaustists, so, on that account you're wrong.

However, Beethoven was a man of violent manner, but even then he probably scored plenty when he had his hearing. And Mozart, as far as we know, was absolutely swimming in it. Though if Mozart or Beethoven had to choose between their art and getting laid, I think we all know which they would choose.

Rights don't exist, but rights especially don't exist for women.

>Isaac and Immanuel were turboaustists, so, on that account you're wrong.

but this is exactly what I'm saying? they probably were lonely but due to hyperautism they couldn't get women and instead let their hyperautism create

thank you for de spookifying me today

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You need to go listen to some Patrice O'Neal clips on Youtube.

Not much that I already knew desu. Women aren't superior or inferior to men, but it's a common tactic for normalfag women to take interest in children's shit or their own appearance in order to seem "cute" and appealing to the average normalfag male. Obsessive men who take a strong interest in a single thing such as literature or IT or whatever live in a bubble of other men who think like us and very few women. This makes it easy for us to scoff at women, but in reality the vast majority of men are just as vapid as the vast majority of women, they're just less visible.

The real issue is finding a nuanced woman among the vast seas of plebs that one can talk to and confide in. For me personally, having a girlfriend could me nice but overall I don't give enough of a shit to actively look or long for a companion. Right now there are more important things to me that deserve my energy, and I'm of the philosophy that I will cross paths with a like-minded woman if I stick to my journey and keep looking for the next interesting thing.

>Never trust a woman's tears, Alyosha. I am never for the woman in such cases. I am always on the side of the men.

I have that I identify with this

I'm just trying to get my dick sucked

go to a gloryhole and pretend its a girl sucking, I would do this but I'm 18 and hope girls will like me when I go to college

I really doubt romance novels/erotica/fanfics are as universally consumed by women as porn is by men. Decent post otherwise.

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why do you beg us to read this shit? why would i want to interact with modern lit people? we can’t even stand each other, what makes you think we should venture into these elite lit circles that are totally insulated from internet critique?

become a monk

*By a pretty hoe

I wish women were slaves desu. White men should've enslaved women instead of negros.

Goonan.

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>the classics (i.e. Austen, the Bronte sisters, George Eliot, Woolf)
>women are barely mentioned
You must not have a very good memory.

Honestly a laugh riot

Nigga i kissed a girl when i was 2 how you even this bad at life

This is from the opening lines from a book, but I'm too pleb to remember thr title.

>reading chick lit

Never fell in love with them. Women are just for fucking. The only thing they have to offer us is that little scar between their legs. The real world belongs to us men. This from my personal experience. Most books tend to put them on a pedestal, because most authors were autistic loners. Except a few books here and there.

>not putting on your bra & plaid skirt & knee-high reading socks and fantasizing about Mr. Darcy stuffing you full of rich English cock

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Typed out a snarky response before I realized I just feel bad for you. Find something else to live for, friend.

can confirm, girls are not worth your time sulking over or lusting for. If anything, they're like heroin. It feels really good when you're having sex, yeah, fucking great sometimes, but the ways they fuck up your life, nag at you, question your motives for everything, stress your trust, etc. That's all like the withdrawal symptoms hitting you, that makes addicts wish they never picked up the needle.

You may never have felt a pussy, but then you've also never had your wife fuck someone else, or have to hear them ask you to explain a topic you know you've explained to them fifteen times over the past five years. Never had to stop at a great part of a novel because their 'car is beeping,' or hear their friends openly judge you when you say or don't say something. Grass is always greener my friend, always. stay strong.

Me desu

>any of that fucking garbage
>literature
Pick one.

that women have poor taste in literature and it is difficult to discuss it with them

having a woman is better than not having one, all the great misogynists realized this in the end and lamented their distance from the females. they're awful, but entirely necessary to die fulfilled

kek

dies

I have nothing in common with women and I'm not attractive enough for casual relationships. I cannot relate to women enough to date them. I don't understand them enough to flirt with them.
What would we even talk about? I read and write. I lift weights and play beer league hockey. I play video games and drink with my friends. I have nothing for women.

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have you tried fucking them you autistic homo or do your bros take care of that for you too

Pride and Prejudice

I have tried and failed

That women are simple, easy going creatures that live life on easy mode.

that's why you pay if you don't like the game

>discuss

See that's your problem user they don't appreciate you treating them like equals. If you have something to say about your readings explain them to her. Have you come across a passage that has left an impression upon you? What made it beautiful? Literally anything non-obvious you say about a book you care about will have her wrapped around your little finger in no time. Women pretend to have opinions about things they're not passionate about to try to impress you, and if she likes you, she'll try, but don't be too critical, and don't take anything she has to say too seriously lmao

Too expensive

don't crush my dreams of a literary gf I'm still pure and youthful
there must be qt girls out there who know and love Melville and Conrad and Dostoevsky, right?

Nothing, I learned everything I needed to learn about women by interacting with them on all sorts of social level (colleagues, friends, significant other and so on).

It's just not worth it.

They're the key to eternal life.
They are bodily beings.

They're nothing but cumdumpsters with an adolescent mind. It's fucked up but it's the truth.

I don't know what to tell you man realistically I think your best shot is to try to get as high-status as you're capable of being and maybe, just maybe, you will one day find yourself some nubile young Jewess with an intrinsic affection for the literary. But really, the chances of that are god awful.

They'll make fun of how small your genitals are because you can write better than they can.

>high status as you're capable of being
RIP
I'll be ok with a farmer's daughter

Great pasta.

mfw someone actually thinks any of that garbage is worth reading

Literature taught me that I should keep women as far from my life as possible. Wait, no; it was life itself that taught me that. Literature taught me that I was right all along.

They're all incorrigible sluts and always have been

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It is now.

That's as good a start as any desu. Have a gang of Huwhite Children and inculcate their academic interests. With them at least, you have a potential lifetime of literary discussion only improving as you, and they, age. Happiness isn't the pipe dream the kike media has tried to push down your throat my dear friend, it's only as hard as it is for you to conjure up the courage to take on the responsibility that comes with family life. I believe in you, user

This user seen some shit.

lolno

Thots gonna thot.

>confessions of a pussyboi
Who's to blame that you were not a man enough? Picking a slut for a gf and then being henpecked by her — whose fault is that?

>he still thinks they're not all like that
>he thinks he's "man enough" not to be nagged at and cheated on
Your childish conceits are breaking my heart, user.

A learned indifference.

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I'm not illusioned about women. And I've never been nagged at or cheated on. Of course, I had quarrels and lots of them but it's inevitable at some point. You can't have a good relationship when you only date a girl for fucks.

man i sort of relate to this but the writing is weirdly clunky and incomprehensible

>body without organs

ah there we go

>You are more than the number of holes you've touched/licked/had intercourse with.
But woman is not only an entity which you can have sexual intercourse with. It is also a personality, alien and heterogenic, and intercating with it is productive and life-assuring. Just don't put the relationship between man and woman in predesigned schemes of "conquering a pussy" or some stupid shit like that. It's like a friendship, but more deeper and intimate than you can ever have with a male friend.

>male painter paints woman as lustful
>other males scorn women for the way other men have represented them
really dinks you dink