Saint John's College

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This is quite a reading list that I can easily get from my library loan network

>81%

holy shit the crappy little state school i went to is more selective than that and it cost significantly less, lol, whoever going to st. johns ur gonna be a bitter berniebro once those student loans come due lmao

Quaint liberal arts schools are the only literary.
Also, cost is pretty standard for U.S. education, not to mention the SIGNIFICANT financial aid provided

The only time ive seen significant financial aid mentioned is in flowery recruiting pamphlets or from 17 year old applicants. Unless you are colored, an injun, or an orphan you aint getting shit.

Johnnie here, this is not true.

We get a lot of financial aid if we can get it. Only people who don't get in on it are trust fund babies who attend and have to pay out the ass for it
Yeah I'm sure you'll get the same understanding of pure mathematics and Ptolemy from reading on a kindle and being such an "autodidact" huh

(You won't)

This is an affront to human intelligence. Are you saying you need a teacher in order to comprehend complex things? This is not the case, and there are companion guides, and lectures available online.

The truth is, the best education is simply one in which you learn, user. And if you can do that best through college, that's fine, but not everyone has a buttload of money and time, and they still need to learn things. So don't be an asshole by stating that people need to go to school to learn.

/rant

>going to a college that accepts 81% of applicants makes me special
>Professors tell me about what im reading, it makes me understand it better
>You cant read and learn on your own
>Library books go on kindles.

You are a 19-22 year old nincompoop, and will no doubt see the error of your ways.

>paying 50,000 dollars a year to read ptolemy

at least autodidacts read outdated wrong shit for free

youtube.com/watch?v=VmRe_fK7pbw

Except you arent going to harvard, you are just paying 120k to read books

>William Shakespeare: Richard II, Henry IV, Part 1, Henry IV, Part 2, The Tempest, As You Like It, Hamlet, Othello, Macbeth, King Lear, Sonnets

Why do you feel the need to point out an acceptance rate? It is actually irrelevant

The professors are only tutors; it is the conversations had with other students on the topics you learn that makes the experience

If you think you can or ever will read through the above lists along with the lab, language, and music classes, you're either 17 or a community college drop out who hates school because it's just so hard on the working class

I don't know why you think college is irrelevant today.

It sounds pompous and probably makes me sound like an asshole but you're not special that you didn't go to college, just like I'm not special because I'm attending one..
you're not some modern Diogenes

You don't know what you're even arguing against or why.

Learn about the curriculum before you whine about how easy it is and how you just know all about it from your fucking kindle you bought on sale you use once in a few weeks

>it is the conversations had with other students on the topics you learn that makes the experience

yeah im sure the students at an 80% acceptance rate school have a lot of great stuff to say about the readings...

IM pompous? You actually believe that the quality of learning from a book is somehow different sitting in your own house not paying 50k a year???? I graduated from state school in 2005, and ive read most of your scam school's lists up there. Its not that impressive, it wont land you a job, and my buddies with 2k a month in student loans with good jobs still aint having fun. You got some growing up to do.

>implying St Johns is bad compared to Harvard

Not even a college student but you must be retarded if you think Harvards nig and nog curriculum is something compared to the Great Books course at st John

Stop feeding into brands

I would've gone to st Johns but college didn't really appeal to me so now I weld
Eh

Im not even trolling, Literally laughing at you.

I could say the same things you've said about St Johns about your shitty state school. Why would you spend so much, I could learn all that on my kindle at home, etc.

I don't understand how you don't understand

>isidore.co/calibre/get/pdf/Ptolemy's Almagest - Ptolemy, Claudius & Toomer, G. J__5114.pdf

wooo now what bitch

Not him but it's true. Laugh all you want but st Johns is the ideal place for a literary education, not some overpriced name tagged school notorious for its corrupt admissions

oh shit the reddit-space economics expert as actually an uneducated welder haha this board is stupid

no you cant, because i got out college paying 15k in total, and books out of pocket. Let me refer you back to this post

>not some overpriced
>shitty school that costs almost as much as nyu

ok now i'm pretty sure you're trolling

ITT: old people who regret not going to college hate kids getting a better education

State college scum think they're somehow holy

Johnnies are pompous

I mean there hasn't been any real discussion on St. John's. This board is retarded, sorry OP
I think it's a nice school on an interesting concept. My friend attended and said he had a memorable time
Also hear it's hard to get laid, though. Take that as you will

have you considered that the pool of applicants is completely different?

To the shitters in this thread. St. Johns is a fucking invaluable school. I am a senior, and it has given me SO much. University is not for job training, and I didnt sign up to go to ITT or whatever. Its worth its weight in gold, and my knowledge of the western canon is by far and away greater than probably the professors at most regional or state schools. The people in this thread are jealous neets who have dont even read or know how to digest the reams of information present in our glorious great books. Its a fucking shame that Veeky Forums has fallen so far.

>80% acceptance
>50k a year tuition
>great books curriculum

At this point I am writing off any defenders as paid shills for the school looking to get some tasty application fees (and considering the acceptance rate, meaty loan bux)

This.

St. John's is an opportunity, not a job listing.

The working class is honestly insufferable and should never talk about the state of education, unironically.

I'd strongly consider the college if I were you

yeah the pool of applicants for my school includes a lot of competitive engineers from india and china, st. johns applicants include credulous yokels from flyover states about to get fleeced for 100k of non-dischargable debt

The problem is that the people think you can't just read the material yourself. It becomes an issue, because I can almost guarantee you I am understanding the material from the literature I read 100x better than if led along by someone else. This is how reading should work.

For instance, what do you think about the first post in this thread? Do you think this person is going to learn just as much as he would have about this book in a classroom?

Is it Pasta or Is He Coping? Episode 1

i hope this is a troll larping cuz u got me laughin dude

And to clarify, I have gone to college already, and currently hold a Bachelor's degree.

Why are European posters actually the worst across all boards

Fuck of plebs

>For instance, what do you think about the first post in this thread? Do you think this person is going to learn just as much as he would have about this book in a classroom?

I dont think you can learn by yourself. Any time you read a book, you are directly effected by confirmation bias. When you go to St. Johns, our faculty hovers over you while you read aloud in a scholastic fashion, and corrects you when they feel you are in error. When I join the workforce, I am going to be THE best read person there, and St. Johns is the institution that got me where I want to be. Before I went to St. Johns I didn't realize that you CANT learn outside of a rigorous academic accredited environment. Now I know (and am thankful for) the robust and rigorous training gifted to me by my parents, and am really prepared to face a world that is full of philistines and those lacking the rich cultural background that I have inherited from the philosophes and thinkers that went before.

do you actually believe what you're saying or is this just a cute display of vocabulary?

>our faculty

haha busted! i knew these st. johns threads were marketing hoping to suck in some lost kekbois and get em on the hook for a hundred grand lmao i guess that didn't go as planned

Shut up Putin.

This... is the power... of anti intellectualism

No lie posts like these make me wonder how stupid the average poster really is on this board

Do you even read? Why do you come here? How do you live being so ignorant and stupid? How did you even make it this far?

I wish to point out that there are but nine unique IPs in this thread.

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So this might indeed be evidence of St. Johns samefagging...

Look, I'm not saying anything against, St. Johns, but I don't have a confirmation bias myself. And that doesn't even exist if you're going to be reading something like Ptolemy's Almagest. If you are genuinely interested in the material, you will find what you're looking for.

>still 9 unique posters
The samefag is you, if that wasn't clear to everyone. Now fuck off and never post here again.

But how can that be. I've posted perhaps 5 times in this thread. St. Johns, is this the kind of critical analysis you employ in your schools? I'm not particularly interested if this is the level of thought that goes on regarding analyzing literature, thank you very much.

Also, here you go

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>I care so much about this troll that I use different devices for it
don't forget to sage

what an absolute cluster

Quality bait

What fuckin horseshit. SJC is a great university. You arent going to get an education in literature like this anywhere else.

I applied to SJC, discovered the tuition, didn't answer them back. would rather get a job and make some money desu instead of beating the dead humanities horse and going into debt

>I don't know how liberal arts work

>liberal arts=paying scammers 120k for 4 years of reading public domain books

this.

unless there are some blowies thrown in by the faculty, that price is ridiculous. i'll reject it out of hand right now. that's capitalism baby, they priced themselves out of a customer. i'm not worried for them; some rich parents are gonna send their little dope to their school in my place anyway. i am worried why you think that is a fair price, or that anyone should pay it. my democratic socialist sensor is throbbing.

>2015

website says its

Undergraduate tuition (per academic year) $52,734