/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Magic Book Edition
sff books based around books
what are you reading
what you just finished
what you reading next

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previous Threads:
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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

First for Xianxia is better than litRPG.

Inmate
Inmate

Second for webnovels are novels too

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

First for Control and what the actual FUCK was his problem?

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Emberfire
Emberfire

bleh

SniperGod
SniperGod

I agree and I made that post.

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RavySnake
RavySnake

not reading xianxia litrpg

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

my eyes glowed with killing intent at your post.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Where should I start with Orion's Arm and what does it count as? Also, this seems stupid.

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

[Killing Intent] Leveled up by 1!

FastChef
FastChef

when will the female protag meme calm the fuck down.

Getting real tired of every book being about some strong independent bitch.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Don't read them then

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

It won't, women dominate the genre.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

when will the female protag meme calm the fuck down
Hopefully, never.

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Why are antifa girls so fucking ugly, bros?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

SHES SO PRETTY

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Soft_member
Soft_member

Perhaps someone can turn it upside down. Imagine a book where a stronk wymyn goes out in the world with her sword only to lose fights and get raped all the time!

The nips know what's up.

happy_sad
happy_sad

The two after Annihilation don't really add anything worthwhile to the first and I'd recommend skipping both.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

veekyforums.com/thread/10852240/literature
It's pretty good depending on the translation. Starts fantastic, has a good but hit or miss middle, but just trails off at the end because Sapkowski got angry and drunk like he always does.

Bakker's way ahead of you.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Both are complete shit.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

You people are lightweights. There has yet to be a novel written in any genre with women worse than the ones in Wheel of Time.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Ranking all the sci-fi books I have read in the last year

God-tier

Dune
Lord of Light
Hyperion
BotNS
Watchmen
A Canticle for Leibowitz

Good tier

Starship Troopers
The Forever War
Rendezvous with Rama
Childhoods End
The Doomsday Book
Earth Abides

Mid Tier

The Demolished Man
Random Acts of Senseless Violence
Inverted World
Enders Game
Flowers for Algernon
Fall of Hyperion

Low Tier

A Fire Upon the Deep
Snow Crash
Old Mans War

Anyone have any opinions on these books?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Downloads: b-ok.org/s/?q=Childhood's End

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Emberfire
Emberfire

Bakker's way ahead of you.

leave home to become a wizard
guy won't teach you
seduce him to get him to teach you, have unpleasant stinky old man sex
he still doesn't teach you
sneak after him to join his scalper troop
get caught, disarmed, and almost raped
hang out, become their friend
they later disarm you and almost rape you again

Mimara had a hard life.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Dont forget

getting knocked up by a guy you think might be your father

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Quick /sffg/, post what you're reading

pic related

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Spamalot
Spamalot

She knew he wasn't deep down shut up

cum2soon
cum2soon

/sffg/! I present to you the final frontier, isekai xianxia litrpg

Inmate
Inmate

I wonder how big her penis is.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I got a few books written by David Eddings. Are they worth reading?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

To the user that recommended it. Thanks.

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

SHIT! how the fuck does this keep sneaking up on me? every one of my suggested reading books have been picked so far and im always late to the discussion.

Methnerd
Methnerd

This is a surprisingly accurate list, I've read about half of the books and agree on how you placed every one of them.

Evilember
Evilember

late to the discussion
The deadline and main discussion is still 1,5 weeks away my dude.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Generally agree although I didn't enjoy Starship Troopers

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I am ~90% done though so I will be moving on to Amber and Blood afterward.

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Supergrass
Supergrass

She is waifu material made 3D in the crucible that was the past two years of American politics

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Yeah, I found that out the hard way. Although I did like the tense moments in Authority and the gay moments in Acceptance.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I’m reading The lady of the lake right now. All the god damn flashback bullshit is super annoying he is a much better as a short story writer than a novelist

Flameblow
Flameblow

Time of Contempt and Baptism of Fire were really good. The later books are a big drop in quality because he had a spat with his publisher and he got tired of doing them, so just sorta shat them out.

whereismyname
whereismyname

True I really enjoyed those Tower of Swallows was pretty alright also after it got going about 100 pages in this thing is a slog so far though

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

It all went to shit after the mage coup, the Battle of Brenna was great though.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Too much Ciri tbqh. I mean I like her well enough unlike some people but Geralt and Yennefer needed more time than they got later on. Especially when a lot of the later Ciri stuff comes to nothing because Sapkowski stopped giving a fuck.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Really enjoyed the parts where fisheye man kicked her shit in.

likme
likme

doesn't even rape her, tells her she's too flat
savage

Firespawn
Firespawn

Tried to rape Yeniffer though the dude has good taste

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

She deserved it

whereismyname
whereismyname

Reading Cugel's Saga. Is it just me or is it a lot weaker than the first two Dying Earth books? Feels like a retread of The Eyes of the Overworld.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Yennefer isn't particularly well endowed herself though. I guess that was just for the sport.

t. gamefag

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

cuck Geralt
get away with it
Not on Fisheye's watch

Spamalot
Spamalot

Yennefer does seem like she'd be more fun to rape than Ciri for some reason. Maybe because Ciri seems like she'd start enjoying it halfway through like some slut in a Japanese porn comic

viagrandad
viagrandad

Geralt had it coming, unironically.

get away with it
Geralt has cucked her himself by then so they're even.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Men can't cuck women, that's just the natural state of things.

Methshot
Methshot

Act like a beta cuck for years
surprised to be cucked
Geralt would have been one of those guys that would agree to an "open" relationship where his gf is constantly having threesomes that he doesn't get to participate in but always tells everyone how great and fulfilling it is. Yennefer just wanted a good spanking not a soyboy that would meekly let her do whatever she wanted. Bitch wanted discipline and Geralt couldn't provide that in the short stories.

tl;dr
the virgin witcher
the chad sorcerer

Emberfire
Emberfire

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cuckquean

Of course the definition of cuck has shifted so much from internet memery that the original definition doesn't really match this one.

JunkTop
JunkTop

cuckqueen is just a meme m8

if you are a high value male then girls will share you, as long as you are discreet about it and don't compromise theirs or their children's inheritance they don't care

whereismyname
whereismyname

They won't like it though. Instinctively, they know the concept endangers their lineage.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

if you are a high value male
so how did you find out about it?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Yennefers not a Queen, she's a dirty scheming Witch and Radovid will send her to the pyre.

farquit
farquit

reading about powerful men and how their wives pretty much always accept them being unfaithful

takes2long
takes2long

so how did you find out about it?
Knowing about pretty much any nobleman in history.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

illiterate
bad reading of characters
game references
This isn't /v/

Skullbone
Skullbone

Accepting is different from endorsing.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

veekyforums.com/thread/10852240/literature
This book is part of a trilogy that's post-apocalyptic heroic fantasy western.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

/sffg/ isn't much better. And Radovid bring justice to mages is hinted at in the books.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Sure, mages among others, but it's clearly a gamefag. Radovid's super minor in the books and Yennefer was one of the least political mages.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

true, but women aren't as offended by cuckoldry as men

I guess it is because women are always aware of who their offspring is so less risks involved

JunkTop
JunkTop

true, but women aren't as offended by cuckoldry as men

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Radovid's super minor in the books
His one paragraph was great though

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Yes it sounds like it would have made an interesting subject for further stories in the setting. Unfortunately it was done by video game writers so you get Mad Rad the Sad Lad dying pointlessly to a quip.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Why do you read sci-fi/fantasy?

Firespawn
Firespawn

Nothing better to do

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I like hard sf because it presents mindbending ideas in a digestible manner by relating them to people and an immediate conflict.
No idea why anyone would ever read fantasy though.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Noob here, I'm a little surprised you guys count graphic novels in lists like this. I'd guess people here would be snobs and exclude anything other than pure novels

Emberburn
Emberburn

I like them. They make me feel good.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Yen and Geralt are both infertile so this is irrelevant.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Their instincts were still crafted by millions of years of evolution regardless of what their conscious minds think or want. Plus Yennefer at least strongly wishes she wasn't sterile.

Methshot
Methshot

Why did no one tell me Terra Ignota was unfinished... this is worse than asoiaf or notw :(

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Any fantasy that that doesn't skimp on the wonder and/or action?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

it doesn't change the biological urges

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Library at mount char

TechHater
TechHater

I'm going to be honest. The description of the book I saw immediately turned me off since I despise that sort of dreary middle-american trailer park/suburb anti-aesthetic with every aching bone in my body but the first page brought my attention back. I think I'll give this a go

Emberburn
Emberburn

On the evidence of the first hundred pages it's brilliant. A book about a human spy's asymmetrical warfare against an alien empire, with subversive sloganeering, paper wars, phony bombs, and mob hitmen

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Got memed into reading Altered Carbon. First book was OK, not great. Second book wasn't as good, pretty boring. Third book was actual garbage. Don't waste your time.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

You probably won't be surprised to learn that the author shows up in the comments section to yell at random bloggers about how THE SEX I WRITE IS THE SEX I HAVE and that they can't understand how he crafted a perfect caricature of black masculinity.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Any more writers like Dick? I really like the themes he repetitively keeps writing about in his books.

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farquit
farquit

2018
not reading Gemmell

He halted some twenty paces from the pair. 'Jon Shannow, the King of Kings has spoken the words of your death. I am Rhodaeul the Hunter. Do you have anything to say before you die?'
'No,' said Shannow, palming his gun and blasting Rhodaeul from the saddle. The Atlantean hit the ground hard, a hammering pain in his chest; he tried to draw his pistol, but Shannow rode forward and fired a second shot that smashed his skull.
'Sweet Chronos!' exclaimed Nu. 'I cannot believe it.'
'Neither could he,' said Shannow. 'Let us move on.'
'But... what of the body?'
'That's why God made vultures,' answered Shannow, touching heels to his stallion.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

This is weird and I'm sure the author is sneaking trough many of his fetishes, but I love it.

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I've been out of the loop for fantasy for 5/6 years, and I'd like to read something: what's come outin this time span?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

You really need to check out The Traitor Baru Cormorant.

City of Stairs by Robert Jackson Benet is also great.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I think its the weakest part of the Dying Earth series, which is to say its still decent. But once you go back to the wizards, shit gets better.

takes2long
takes2long

Science fiction like link related?
youtu.be/fysBUxPFo9U

massdebater
massdebater

why is geralt such a gloomy bitch in the short stories?

bawww i have to slay monsters for a living with my badass swords and potions
bawww i'm so horrifying to look upon (except to all these women who want my witcher dick)
bawww no one likes me (except for all my funny and colorful companions)
bawww muh lesser evil

i guess what i'm saying is lambert best witcher

Flameblow
Flameblow

Reading anything by The Race Traitor Seth Dickinson

Avoid amerikwan sjw fiction. This is something that Nazis and Communists can actually agree on btw.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Ist it really that many?
The main bunch of women protags are bound to urban-fantasy YA novels with questionable quality, and those shouldn't be read by anyone here anyways.

Have there been good Fantasy novels with girl/woman protags?
I've read Sabriel which was not bad.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

cuckqueen is just a meme m8
unlike cuck, the biggest meme of the last 4 years

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

only if your 12 and new to the genre

viagrandad
viagrandad

this good?

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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

The Race Traitor Seth Dickinson
If this is the only criticism of the book, it's probably fine. However it's part of a unfinished series so I'd wait at least a year before reading it.

I actually liked Cugel's books better than the wizards.

askme
askme

No Seth Dickinson is a bad writer period.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Seth Dickinson is a bad writer
That's better, but I don't think I believe you so I'll check it out myself some day.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Seth Dickinson
bad writer
You are retarded

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Which characters are the Felisins of their respective works?

Who is the biggest Felisin of them all?

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SniperGod
SniperGod

At least she's churning them at a decent speed

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Just finished Last Wish and didn't really get much of this, aside from perhaps dissatisfaction with people's perception of the profession and when he's having trouble finding work. Is this a Sword of Destiny dig?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

He was a beta soyboy, just like the author.

FastChef
FastChef

Recommend me some good scifi horror.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

HP Lovecraft

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Not scifi enough.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Blindsight/Echopraxia

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Echopraxia sucked, especially after reading Blindsight.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

that one star wars legends book with the bloody stormtroopers on the cover

SniperWish
SniperWish

Library at mount char

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

hush young one, the quality will multiply with each re-reading

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eGremlin
eGremlin

nobodies really matched Dick
thankfully the man wrote a fucking lot

Nojokur
Nojokur

this nigga serious bout dat library

MPmaster
MPmaster

Which Felisin?

idontknow
idontknow

Is there a chart out there for this man's work?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Who is the biggest Felisin of them all?
Dahut

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

We don't count graphic novels. I was going to call him out on it and send him to co but was too lazy (i'm sure others were too lazy too).

hairygrape
hairygrape

interesting question, I've never seen one but it would certainly be a good idea

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

is there still a way to get the first couple books of the Gentleman Bastard in standard hardcover with dust jackets? At least without paying like $100 for a "1st edition 5th print" hardcover. Fuck sake's, it only came out 12 years old.

It's heresy to me to see a barcode printed directly on the fabric hardcover.

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I read it in 2017. It was shit. Fuck off.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

phallic symbol the cover

eGremlin
eGremlin

Is there anything this book can't do?

SniperGod
SniperGod

The protagonist is pretty pussy whipped

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Anybody ever read this? I'm about halfway through and I have to say I am loving it. My gf loaned it to me because I wanted to read some sci-fi, and she seemed to feel the book was too dry and technical, but that's really where a lot of the appeal comes from. A ton of online reviews also claimed that the first half of the book was terrible, but I really loved it, so now I'm REALLY looking forward to the not-terrible half. A lot of the other negative reviews say that the author is constantly trying to impress with his vocabulary, but those people are missing the point, because he only ever does that when writing from the POV of one of the many main characters, and that's kind of his deal, since he's a bit of a douchebag professor. But since the book starts with him, I think a lot of people let that set the tone.

It really resonates with me. A lot of good ideas and great insights into the significance and predestination of humanity. Occasionally characters will say things or make observations that resonate so strongly with my own passive beliefs, or that ominously correlate with the current state of humanity in reality, that I have to just kind of stop for a second and let it soak in. It's definitely a book that will activate your almonds. The author seems to have moved on to writing fantasy, but of his earlier sci-fi endeavors, this book seems to be considered his worst, which makes me really excited to read the rest.

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viagrandad
viagrandad

Weird how many people from the War of the Roses are Asoiaf characters.

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JunkTop
JunkTop

veekyforums.com/thread/10852240/literature
any post apocalyptic fantasy
I just read The Death Gate Cycle by Hickman & Weiss, 7 book series. It's a little stiff and impersonal at times, and some books are entirely forgettable (2 and 5 come to mind) but the concepts are awesome. Characterizations are strong, some really good themes of morality, responsibility, consequence and redemption. The book is basically about one world that gets demolished and rebuilt as 4 by overzealous demi-gods, and each world has its own culture, rules and physics even. Great read if you're into that kind of technical stuff. Once again, I won't call it amazing, but definitely worth a read.

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

What are the rarest copies of TLotR books?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Would it be far too hasty to buy all the Stormlight and Mistborn hardcovers just because I'm liking the first books so far? Read through Last Empire and TWoK and I liked both so far. It looks like I can still get the first editions (not first print obviously) from both off Amazon so that's very tempting, unless that's just Amazon being wrong. Something about this user's stack pic related is making me drool.

I'm sure it'll last me until the end of summer.

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TreeEater
TreeEater

That might actually be the worst stack I've ever seen.

Anyway, if you do like Sanderson and feel fine with only reading him the next 6 months I don't see why you should not buy his books.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Should I write a story about a literal Mary Sue who's supposed to be savior but ends up developing catatonic schizophrenia?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Real life sucks.

Inmate
Inmate

This book is so comfy. What a joy to read! The plot is a bit slow though.

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Spamalot
Spamalot

Joan of Arc?

happy_sad
happy_sad

I'm not familiar with her story.
I know who she is but I don't know the details.

takes2long
takes2long

Some crazy cheerleader.

SniperGod
SniperGod

It's fun!

askme
askme

tfw I have an idea for a story focusing on asian-american racial issues
but im afraid to write about it because im not asian

Inmate
Inmate

I've tried Mistborn, Elantris, and Stormlight, and Sanderson is not for me. His writing is just so flat and it doesn't help that there's all these autistic charts and classifications he puts in his books.

TreeEater
TreeEater

His writing is just so flat
Yep. So? Just don't read.

w8t4u
w8t4u

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hairygrape
hairygrape

Its not even a weeb thing desu. the characters being asian is just what makes the most sense in historical context

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

My gf
Get out you fucking normie and stop rubbing our noses in it. an hero

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Old asian mentor/ flavor user that you?
Why do you keep bringing up shit that you're already writing, as if you are thinking about it?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Tfw you realize the prologue with The Others in A Game of Thrones was symbolizing a Stark-Royce alliance ending badly with the Starks fucking over the Royces

Why would the Starks do such a thing?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Is this the board for the Scientology opus as a collection of inter-working knowledge?

Or do you spit on my Freedom of Speech!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

activate your almonds.

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Im sorry, who?

girlDog
girlDog

finally finished the world building of my fantasy world
drawn out my map
now I just gotta finish up the details on my characters, and then I can start my novel :)))

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

he doesn't appreciate charts
he didn't enjoy the anime that is Stormlight
gross
I can understand not liking mistborn though, mistborn is bad.

WebTool
WebTool

Did someone say charts?

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Sorry, but the Shadow of what was Lost is garbage. Maximum ride is trash even for YA, replace it with Red Rising, aka the thinking man's YA.
oh, I see you already have RR on the list
overall 7/10 chart desu

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

lads what should I read next, please help

JunkTop
JunkTop

Here ya go pard.

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

just checking in to let everyone know that I read this and it was enjoyable.

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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

library at mount char guy here, what books are similiar to library at mount char (besides library at mount char)?

Library at mount char

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Is there anything actually written by a female in the past 5 year that's actually good?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

based Christian Cameron
shit

Pick one

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

reading a work before the hellish mixture of glue and wood pulp has decomposed enough to release it's heady chemical aroma
shiggy

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Just read the Curse of Chalion, any other books where the main character is working behind the scenes to aid the hero?

TechHater
TechHater

is there anything fantasy that could be like late 18th century but not pirates?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I liked 'The Race' by Nina somebody or another.

It has sentimental parts because female author, but it's weird enough to be interesting.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

ancillary justice

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The golem and the jinni

Emberburn
Emberburn

implying there's anything actually written by anyone in the past 5 years that's good

Flameblow
Flameblow

library at mount char

Nojokur
Nojokur

Red Rising

takes2long
takes2long

A meme

Shitty YA

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

To the user that kept posting these books in these threads a while back, thanks. I finally got around to reading read them. They were trash, but it was enjoyable and fun trash. I'm unironically looking forward the the next book.

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takes2long
takes2long

Hmmm-hmmm. Would you care to get an excerpt you found interesting?

idontknow
idontknow

Yes, but it’s good shitty YA

hairygrape
hairygrape

For you

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Nice try, soy.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

pure escapism

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Read a sci-fi book called Roboteer. Earth and its accompanying neighbour systems adopt a theocracy to hold together and a colony of ultra-capitalists on a harsh world go for genetic engineering/cyborg stuff. Main character was modified and raised since birth to interface with robots and systems, which makes him a bit of a pariah since most Roboteers are functionally autistic.

I enjoyed the first book more than the other two. The motivations of some of the groups don't become clearer until way later, which can feel frustrating. I like the way some of the nemeses grow over time, and especially the way some characters get worn down until they snap, which I think was done satisfyingly and realistically.

That being said, I feel it goes off the rails a bit later, and their depiction of virtual space in later books just made me think of fantasy instead.

Overall a pretty good read.

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Terra Ignota

Bidwell
Bidwell

read this to my niece and she loved it.
i also found it very entertaining.

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MPmaster
MPmaster

Nice, enjoying it? Your first PKD?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I've read about 80% of your list. A few minor disagreements but my main one is ranking A Fire Upon the Deep so low. (You should still read Deepness in the Sky, it's better). What did you like about it?

More people should read Lord of Light.

Don't bother reading any more Hyperion books.

Reading the Dune sequels (WRITTEN BY FRANK, NOT BRIAN, HERBERT) until you get sick of them is a perfectly good option.

Read The Fountains of Paradise.

Armor by John Steakley might be worth reading but I'd avoid mil-SF in general even though you like ST and Forever War. It's a weak subgenre imo.

If you're open to to graphic novels read Sandman, but don't be fooled into thinking that Neil Gaiman is a generally worthwhile author.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Ya books are trash (as it says in the brackets). You don't read trash and shit books do you?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Is that litrpg? Shill it to us.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

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girlDog
girlDog

Iron Gold is a good book

viagrandad
viagrandad

Did you play hide the sausage when you were done?
I know you patricians have some weird sensibilities.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

take something out of context so I can meme it without reading the book myself

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

if you didn't like legend you are soy
okay

Emberfire
Emberfire

Talk about a random fucking list.
Some stuff here is hot garbage, and some shit is so obscure you will be hard pressed to find it.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Check this one out then. It's my first chart.

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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Actually read or tried to read only to drop most of this since majority of them are some of the most popular fiction books overall

Just finished the panited man last sequel, teh core, what fucking shit book, makes the first one retroactively somehow worse, then again the second one was as bad as it can get so what did i expect.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

should I start with Clarke, Asimov or Heinlein?

JunkTop
JunkTop

What's the trashiest fantasy series you can think of? Something with lots of violence against women

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Lord of Shadows by Mark Lawrence

Illusionz
Illusionz

I can't find a book/author combo that matches

FastChef
FastChef

eeeegh I'd probably go in that order. Asimov is the archetypal "as you know Bob" infodump author and Heinlein is better than Asimov but he's got worse ideas overall outside of his famous books.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Reread some chapters of Malazan from various books, read them ages ago in high school
Except it to be embarassing
It's not

They're like... actual novels. Just with people named Caladan Brood and Karsa Orlong. Light, dark, shadow, cliche but not *painfully* cliche. The quality of some of the scenes went over my head as a youngin'

Willful child is terrible though.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I would guess their reference was to Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence.
Based on your query I would also mention it. It is trashy in the way that it is actual garbage. Filth set in type.

WebTool
WebTool

GOR

goodreads.com/book/show/464685.Tarnsman_of_Gor?from_search=true

women are nothing more than objects in the gor books.
and they willingly want to be.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Exactly, soy. Legend is for alpha chads.

takes2long
takes2long

Swerve Squire, Swerve!

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w8t4u
w8t4u

xianxia/xianhuan absolutely btfo
starvearchive.com/2018/03/03/the-dao-of-xuanhuan-novels/

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

yes
I fell over backwards from laughter on basically the tenth page
protag visists his uncle
notes how his aunt is silent and says nothing
just as women are supposed to

there's, I believe, only one spoken line by a woman in the entire book, at the very end, which is immediately met with a:
"shut your mouth" before the men continue on with their business

he could not
get
away
with this
nowadays

viagrandad
viagrandad

it's a fun book about a mercenary group hired to protect someone. fantasy with guns, but the guns use bullets that are charged with elemental magic. if you can get past the very first chapter, which makes it seem like a "mary sue does everything" type of book, it becomes a very nice read, with a nice amount of worldbuilding that could pay off with a good long term series. Book two is out soon

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

IS
IT
LITRPG
???

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

whats the matter you don't like STATS? You don't like the protag having to grind for XP so he can level up his skills ??

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

had to look that one up
just lit

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happy_sad
happy_sad

damn I wish more protags would break the 4th wall and all the mechanics of the story was the same as a fucking rpg!
Also shitty pop references everywhere because demons in hell are totally in love with American rock bands from the 90's!

iluvmen
iluvmen

same! I really wish Tolkien had written some pop culture references into his work. Sauron should appear and talk about horcruxes being like his ring

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Because you totally misread his character from the games. Geralt never chose this life and would rather be something else. Witcher's work is dangerous, dirty, pays poorly, and isn't intellectually stimulating for him. In addition, he's a pariah with a strong sense of morals living in an unjust society.

Lambert
Is barely in the books. In the games, he whines more than Geralt.

Snarelure
Snarelure

He's definitely a lot less happy in Sword of Destiny for reasons that should be obvious when you read it.

Ironically, Wheel of Time. It's obvious Jordan has a huge BDSM fetish despite the almost worshipful tone the series takes to hugely bitchy women.

Emberburn
Emberburn

women are nothing more than objects in the gor books.
Sounds goo-

and they willingly want to be.
lame

SniperGod
SniperGod

Too much dryad sex
I never thought such a thing was possible, or that it could ever be a bad thing in the first place, but there it is.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

"Would you like to throw the ring into Mount Doom? Y/N"
"You've gained 500,000 xp! Also temporary party members The Eagles!"

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

It's obvious Jordan has a huge BDSM fetish despite the almost worshipful tone the series takes to hugely bitchy women.
It's because RJ truly gets it.
There is no point in humiliating a woman who is meek and submissive in the first place. You have to first take your time to build her up as the pinnacle of haughty bitchiness first.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

What books are you waiting on /sffg/?

for me it's
The Plastic Magician (April)
Dandelion Dynasty Book 3 (Unknown)
Peace Talks (Never)
John Dies at the End Book 4 (Does the series have a name?)

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

xianxia can actually be parodied, unlike litrpg which is simply world of warcraft combat logs.

virtue signaling this hard

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

virtue signaling is the most pathetic accusation a person can make

but he's pretending to be nice to make people like him

that's how it works retard

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

onlt time I ever found this slightly (slightly!) hot was when Elaida got what was coming to her

Spamalot
Spamalot

I get the appeal there but I also like reading this when the strong woman is a good person and doesn't deserve what's happening to her, because I am a sadist. Also Jordan spends so much time on the buildup it's just exhausting instead of satisfying when they finally get dragged by a collar naked in public and spanked.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Wong has really lost his touch. I wouldn't hold your breath.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Hottest thing in Wheel of Time for teenaged me was when Moghedien threatened to turn Nynaeve into a horse and ride her around the dream lands and braid her mane.

massdebater
massdebater

What the hell did I just read was better than 90% of John dies at the end. It's only cracked that's going to shit

iluvmen
iluvmen

for me it was the idea of Graendal turning me into her stupid, mindless slave who has to have sex with her huge tits daily

Snarelure
Snarelure

I'm not a sub but I get you. Second hottest thing to me was Rahvin slowly conditioning Morgase to be his bimbo trophy wife sitting there all day gossiping and talking about dresses with low necklines instead of ruling.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

you will never turn a queen into your slutty girlfriend
feels bad

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Especially when you consider she was always just strong willed enough to know something was wrong and she was losing something, and be discontent with herself; getting the occasional glimpses of what she'd become but never being able to fight it.

hnnng

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Those with ugliness in their hearts manifest it on their face.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I finished Equal Rites and it was great at the beginning and the end but had a dull middle section that was not really funny or interesting. Prattchett seemed to be at his best when he was developing characters in set locations rather than taking them on a journey. Still plenty of fun stuff at both ends particularly Granny's interactions with everyone else. It feels like this was sort of a sketch of what would become the Tiffany Aching books in the future.

Next step in the Discworld: Reaper Man. Might take a detour and read shadow of the torturer first tho.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Gotta question. I’m planning out a fantasy story where the basic idea is all humans are able to partially shapeshift into animals. Will this come off as too “furry”, and get blacklisted? (The creatures they merge with aren’ts like cats and dogs and wolves and shit, it’s a lot more varied).
Pic related is sort of the vibe I’m trying to go for, this for instance would be a guy merged with a lobster or a crab or something

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Methnerd
Methnerd

Really original, user.

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Skullbone
Skullbone

You fucking cunt. You shilled me a series that is not even completed, and that has a book 2 fhat is a filler.

Evilember
Evilember

Really liked the magicians, anything similar? I liked the college aged characters. Hated the entire cuck thing though, that always bugs me. The magic was cool in the way it was earned but they never explained much.

WebTool
WebTool

I ripped off animorphs
FUCK. Is it too similar, even though animorphs is about aliens that live in brains?

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

are we plebs for enjoying sci-fi and fantasy? why would anyone read philosophy for fun anyways

eGremlin
eGremlin

No, as long as you enjoy other things. I'm not into philosophy but I do read a lot of nonfiction.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

A site built entirely on 10 wacky lists is going to shit? what a shocker.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Tight pussy part 2.

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Skullbone
Skullbone

I recently started reading about philosophy because some of those guys thought in some pretty interesting ways. Particularly buddhist philosophy astounds me with how clear and razor sharp it is regarding suffering and attachements but more importantly the way to deal with them and this was like 4000 years ago. I see reading philosophy as reading about interesting ideas

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Author has to throw a holocaust thing in as if the death of some jews is the sole most important event in all of history

fucking hell

MPmaster
MPmaster

Clarke is a great writer, Asimov is boring as fuck and Heinlein is hit or miss.

Spamalot
Spamalot

With the rise of indie publishing and dinosaur publishing dying I'm surprised new pro-fascism fantasy/sci-fi hasn't hasn't really been created. Indie writers don't need to be PC and there's definitely an audience for that kinda stuff.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Gnome
Dragonnewt
wood elf, high elf, dark elf
undead catslut

And he keeps facefucking the dryads. I never thought I'd read an erotic fantasy that details exactly how he manages to avoid fucking lewd elfs so much.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Monster Blood Tattoo, anyone?

Inmate
Inmate

???

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Milscifi is basically this anyways. Can't imagine why anyone would want to read a pro-fascism genre, however. The very concept is excruciating to contemplate.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Is that the latest entry in the monster blood series?

Firespawn
Firespawn

No, that's the second. It's a triology.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I fear I've enjoyed reading mistborn series (specifically first book, other 2 were mediocre). Can you recommend his other series or should I switch to something else?

Supergrass
Supergrass

mistborn is honestly the worst of his books, even his YA stuff like the Rithmastist and Steelheart is better. So yes, if you enjoyed Mistborn you'd probably enjoy anything Sanderson makes

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I can't wait till he splits that tight gnome pussy up the middle in book 3.
Midgets are my fetish.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Is the Ico book any good?
I never played the game

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Japanese
I'll wager not.

Emberburn
Emberburn

fuck no Rithmatist is appalling

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

am I retarded? I think I am retarded.

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Lunatick
Lunatick

a fucking leaf
bmv? I'm fond of the one in the annex

Booteefool
Booteefool

broke: not reading gemmell
woke: reading gemmell
bespoke: reading stella gemmell

Spamalot
Spamalot

I just read this too after seeing the sequel in the new releases for the month and it was fun enough. Second book's already up on #ebooks btw

I could probably read nothing but books about mercenaries and come away happy from my genre reading

Methshot
Methshot

Has anyone read Robert Jackson Bennetts "The Divine Cities" series? I'm looking for a fantasy/sci-fi trilogy.

Methnerd
Methnerd

it's been a very long time since I've last been there, for some reason I thought it would have closed down by now. I'll remember to look there this weekend since I am going downtown anyways.

WebTool
WebTool

I stopped really early on because I was reading something else but a bunch of people with good taste I know liked it

Supergrass
Supergrass

Eh?

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I'm looking for long trashy series that is mostly about world building and follows the generic path that shounen or sports anime follows. I'm not really looking for some world ending plot I'm more looking for something where it's a coming of age story combined with a competitive jouney where everyone has special powers.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

The Vorrh

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

What books do you have? The Redemption of Althalus is a pretty good standalone btw.

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

That's the 10th anniversary edition. I caught the '1st edition' disease

Spamalot
Spamalot

I caught the '1st edition' disease
Are you a collector or do you just enjoy wasting money?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Robert Silverberg's Lord Valentine's Castle is the first of a long series of books written in the 1980s, set in a low-tech fantasy world with several cohabiting species, about an exiled prince with amnesia who becomes a traveling juggler. Over the course of the books he gradually regains his memory, an army, and his throne, There is camaraderie, travelogues, lore and history, love interests and a revenge plot. It has an unabashedly light tone and derivative plot, but the prose is pleasantly lucid and visually interesting. I see it as a counterpoint to its direct contemporary, Book Of The New Sun.

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

the latter, since im not crazy enough that I would go for first editions of books older than 20 years. I'd be happy with just a library binding version. I just don't want the 10th anniversary edition specifically because I'm autistic about

frankly if I can't find it, I'll just give up and buy other books I also want to reread and have a physical copy (next on the list is Dune and maybe Sabriel).

RumChicken
RumChicken

virtue signaling this hard
no virtue signaling in that post moron

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

appalling >>>> Mistborn

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

trying to meme someone into reading golem and the meme
They don't even fuck

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

undead catslut
You think he will fuck it next book?

Flameblow
Flameblow

There is camaraderie, travelogues, lore and history, love interests and a revenge plot.
THIS BOOK IS:
80% JUGGLING
10% METAMORPHOSIS
7% MY LORD
3% TRANNY PRONOUNS

Snarelure
Snarelure

it was never a question of if he would, but when.

Methshot
Methshot

Did his dungeon book drop yet? it was suppose to be the starting of March.

Emberburn
Emberburn

its out already called dungeon deposed.
its not erotica though.
ive read it but i dont have a strong opinion on it yet. so far i think otherlife and supersales were better.
feels like this book is some sort of experiment.
also this time around no stats what so ever which is good in my opinion.
id say its worth a read. though i think it would grow more on me with the sequels. the first felt kinda unfinished.

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FastChef
FastChef

All his books are connected computer simulations correct?
And is it true that he finished his series in trilogies?
That means Super Sales 3 and Wild Wastes 3 suppose to wrap things up?

What about E william brown?
When is his next book coming out?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

yeah all books are in the runnerverse as fans started calling it. this one is too.
yes he does only trilogies but that doesnt mean there wont be new trilogies with the same characters.
i asked him a few questions per email and he was quite happy to tell me that sometime in the future ioana and felicia from supor sales are gonna visit yosemite and felix somehow is gonna get to runners world aka the original server.

i didnt really read daniel black only the first but someone a few generals ago mentioned that e william brown doesnt have a set schedule and is really unreliable with books.
atleast william/randi is consistent and always releases a new book every 3 months. which i like a lot. its great work ethic.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

ioana and felicia from supor sales are gonna visit yosemite and felix somehow is gonna get to runners world aka the original server.
Well, he did find that portal room where his mother worked and experimented on his dad. I'm sure it's some router/hub that the server uses, and they (yosemite's people) gained admin access to it.

5mileys
5mileys

What about E william brown?
When is his next book coming out?
Probably never. He hasn't even posted on his blog since January (and he promised to give monthly updates).
williamscorner.blog

w8t4u
w8t4u

in super sales 2 kit gets portal power from felix. however runner intervenes as "god" and tells felix he cant use it travel to other world except for legionworld. i asked william about it but he didnt comment on the matter. so its either gonna be through kit or some other way. im actually kinda excited where this meta plot goes. i have a theory that its all gonna end up with everyone helping srit fight that ai the omaga built to take down runners shipt but i obviously have no basis for that but its something i would like to see.

WebTool
WebTool

Is that why felix's power resets at midnight? The server resetting?

StonedTime
StonedTime

probably. the running fan theory is that felix is actually a god without knowing it. and his slaves or employes dont actually add to his power but the faith in him they have empowers him in some way. its not really explained why it resets at midnight. but that could be very well it.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Well runner did turn a god at the end. And all these amazon books seems to have the protagonist turn a god at the end of the series.
Daniel Black is on his way to being a god too.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

ive been forcing myself to only read literary works lately. i just want to read something fun. suggestions?

farquit
farquit

its a fun read. I read a few of his books before hand,. any recommendations?

SniperGod
SniperGod

In my view it fulfills the user's specific requirements in a satisfactiory manner. He asked for a long if derivative fantasy series with plenty of worldbuilding that is also like a sports film, so I named this fantasy rags-to-riches tale with its lengthy passages about the zen-like pleasure of juggling.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Fun coming right up.

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SniperGod
SniperGod

Particularly buddhist philosophy astounds me with how clear and razor sharp it is regarding suffering and attachements

dude just don't care about stuff lmao

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Brethren, I look forward to him impregnating BOTH next book.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Any good medieval fantasies where a guy/group of modern/future dudes get sent to an alternate past with magic and other races n shit? I've been looking for some fantasy to read and I've always enjoyed the interaction of different future-past/alternate cultures.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I had problems with how the main character acted foolishly at times, but I really enjoyed the world building. It spent a good amount of time focusing on the banal minutiae of the day to day life. I never thought about the idea of getting money from the Emperor to help get you to your destination, acquire the supplies necessary, etc.

The more I think about it, the more neat ideas I glean from my recollections. The boiled leather that was hardened, the vinegaroons on the acid seas, the different levels of civilization that impacted how monsters reacted.

Soft_member
Soft_member

just learned what xianxia is. can you recommend one to start with?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I see how the gnome watches when he services the dryads. She wants it bad.
I hope when he gets around to it she cries out about him splitting her in half.
FUCK!!!! BOOK THREE WHEN????

5mileys
5mileys

To me they're comfort reading of the highest level. I read them in my youth, and I can embrace them despite their failures. Yes, its about finding a blue stone, yes its essentially fantastic versions of various cultures given precisely one role in the world to the extent that you could call it a racist caricature almost, but at the end of the day its just fun high fantasy. There are no surprises, but I do think the Will and the Way is a great system of magic.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Daniel Black by E William Brown

massdebater
massdebater

around october or september.
two other books come before that. super sales 3 comes directly after wild wastes 3 somewhere in december.

TreeEater
TreeEater

zelskytranslations.com/novels/reverend-insanity/index/
It's still in progress though, if you want something completed instead, just ask

WebTool
WebTool

He asked for good, not badly written smutrpg.

FastChef
FastChef

release that witch is alright, though it's straight up another world, not time travel

Supergrass
Supergrass

I thoroughly enjoyed the shit out this series when I was a kid

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

thanks!

have any of these novels been professionally translated? they seem to read like light novels or even fanfic. I find the phenomenon fascinating

viagrandad
viagrandad

take that back

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

going "this is sooo unpc and would never get published today, awesome" is just as much virtue signaling as "this is sooo progressive and awesome"

A Will Eternal and Cultivation Chat Group are okay.

There's also Forty Millenniums of Cultivation.

Like most light novel translations they're mainly hobby translators. I gather the stories are mainly published on Wattpad style sites and the primary demographic is "people reading stuff on the bus/train on the way to work/school."

Allegedly western publishers have repeatedly rejected Wuxia/Xianxia translations because they think the flowery, over the top style won't sell in the west.

StonedTime
StonedTime

malazan is literally the definitive fantasy of modern times

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

no, he's right

girlDog
girlDog

I will be cultivating my cultivation till tomorrow morning. So I will not be able to make the new thread later.
Here it is early
veekyforums.com/thread/10872713/literature
veekyforums.com/thread/10872713/literature
veekyforums.com/thread/10872713/literature

iluvmen
iluvmen

thank you, I have just put the first 200 chaps of CCG on my eReader. Slice of Life stuff always appeals to me

SniperWish
SniperWish

It's kinda like the Hero Union BBS manga if you're familiar with that one.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Terry Brooks has a pretty large world I've read like 3 of his trilogies.

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

sadly these

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