In all honesty, besides analytics, does there seem to be any reason to go beyond the Greeks for philosophy?

In all honesty, besides analytics, does there seem to be any reason to go beyond the Greeks for philosophy?

They seem to have figured everything out, everybody else just copycats.

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Yeah; democracy was garbage and they were wrong about the gods. Read Christian stuff now

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>t. high schooler
Philosophy doesnt even get properly introduced before Kant.

Greeks didn't have democracy like we do now. Their democracy only extended to a limited sized group of wealthy men.

Maybe the democracy of Solon. The reforms of Cleisthenes and later Ephialtes extended the democracy to the poorest citizens.

And that isn't what we have now?

unlike today...

Nah, slaves are taxed now.

You wouldn't believe this if you actually read the Greeks as the Greeks instead of the Greeks as instrument of some other philosophical vision. Read.

Any form of democracy is atrocious; mob rule is atrocitous

>besides analytics

Which contribute nothing.

Acknowledged folly

This individual has made a good post. As many political philosophers have pointed out, like Rousseau, what Athens actually was, was an aristocracy.

No it is not. Our democracy allows everyone to vote.

But is that really what you want? Technically speaking, an aristocracy is most certainly a bad form of government, unless it is based on a metric OTHER than money. In other words, if the aristocracy was based on intelligence, or even better, a combination of intelligence and morally good behavior. I’m sure the Greeks wanted this type of Aristocracy, but it was out of their reach. They had a wealthy aristocracy just like the Romans

Rousseau was a turbo autist that wouldn't call anything a democracy unless every citizen voted on every matter.

Athens allowed every male citizen to vote.

>Athens allowed every male citizen to vote.

Let's not forget that voting was considered anti-democratic. Most government offices were filled through luck of the draw.

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Stupid retard.

The absolute state of Veeky Forums

Sorry my bad. Every adult male citizen was allowed to vote.
They voted directly on legislation, bills and court cases not for government offices.

Lots is more democratic than voting when it comes to office holders desu.
It keeps the aristocrats from bribing and manipulating the common man.

What makes something a form of democracy? Where is the line between something that can be granted the adjective of democratic and something that has the state of being a democracy? Is there one, or are they inseparable?

Did they not allow all male citizens to vote?

Later on in American history, many view expanding voting rights with suspicion. It was thought that voting slaves would vote like their masters for example strengthening slave holders and their interests. Similar doubts reared up when people started pushing for the female vote. Women were expected to vote like their husband giving family men a distinct advantage. etc

>Similar doubts reared up when people started pushing for the female vote. Women were expected to vote like their husband giving family men a distinct advantage. etc

Iirc Churchill expressed the opposite view that women would vote opposite to men and essentially cancel their votes.

>The women's suffrage movement is only the small edge of the wedge, if we allow women to vote it will mean the loss of social structure and the rise of every liberal cause under the sun. Women are well represented by their fathers, brothers and husbands

It's true. We still see this today with immigrants and pandering to special interest groups.

t. never studied analytic philosophy

It was more like the ‘’’’’’’’democracy’’’’’’’’’ of Rome, where every citizen could vote, but by and large their votes didn’t count.

That’s why it’s retarded to say Athens was a democracy.

Only the stupidest high schooler/college student thinks that Athens was actually democratic.