Tfw cradle catholic

>who was Joan of Arc

If you say something nice to me you're my gf

A sinner just like you.

despook yourself

realize monogamy is a joke

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lol time to go full atheist you poor wretch

>regard myself as a mystic

prelest

t. Perfiduous Albion

>realize monogamy is a joke

Wtf I love black cock now

t. doesn't know what a saint is

reread Job, cunt

>not understanding the Archetypal roles depicted by the two individuals in question

you can't be a mystic and belong to a church that's not how it works. if you do, the church has nothing to do with what you believe and is just a mask

You're totally wrong actually. Many of the canonical Saints are recorded as mystics

the pope is a mystic you pleb

Who are

>St Augustine
>St John of the Cross
>St Teresa of Avila
>St Ignatius of Loyola
>Master Eckhart
>virtually anyone from the Orthodox tradition

etc.

I mean I don't even like Nicene Christianity but damn what you said is incorrect

>he unironically fell for the "prayer works" and "God rewards good people in this life" memes
Bloody hell, user, even most religious people aren't that stupid.

You made the mistake of assuming that something other than Christ would make you happy. Don't worry, it happens to all of us.

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Christ doesn't make you happy.

Both The Holy Bible and The Koran day you are rewarded both in this life and in the next for your faith. Trust me, I’ve witnessed it and been a part of it.

You literally see change from prayer.

Yes, but "rewarded" is relative. The ultimate reward of Christianity, after all, is union with God and delight in his presence, which is the summit of all our joys. Any other reward is merely to facilitate this, through the various ways in which one person differs from the other.

Also, God sometimes answers prayers in ways other than what the supplicant has in mind.

You’re right he does. It’s part of God’s wisdom that he does this, I agree.

Wake up kid

Do you think the people who are dying in Syria and iraq being blown up while praying in a mosque were rewarded for their prayer?

>cradle catholic
you're fucked m8. All the hardcore, soulless, sam hyde-esque despairing nihilists I've met have been kids who ended up reacting against childhood catholic school upbringing. Too bad you didn't slowly grow into it from a secular upbringing. Hope you don't lose faith

Not if they killed people because of their religion, no. I think it’s time you understand The Koran doesn’t want you to make war with others because of your religion, or even be divided into sects. People are massively misinterpreting The Quran

They didn't kill anyone. They were just praying then some dude blew himself up in the mosque because he didn't like what sect they belonged to. Nice reward.

You can’t control where you’re born.

based stirnerposter

The rewards of prayer.

Ah yes indeed, because you can prove God doesn’t exist because other people kill themselves.

Why again is this a valid argument? Have atheists so completely lost their gifts from God that they cannot follow even the simplest of logic?

I didn't say anything about God. Your religion is just bullshit.

>People are massively misinterpreting The Quran
Top fucking wew lad.
Are we on CNN right now or what?
Mohammed was a warlord. He himself lead men into battle many times, and through the hadiths we know that he even sanctioned the killing of women and children provided they were non-muslim.
Did you not know any of this or were you just choosing to lie so you could appear cool in defending Islam?

>Had sex with a girl before marriage
>Get upset when she continues to be sexually immoral

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Ah now I’ve got you.

You mentioned the ‘rewards of prayer’. Funny you should mention something like that, just kind of off, that’s all. You just flat out mentioning rewards like that... hmmm

Yes well, no matter what religion yours is, as a Muslim, if you’re a Christian, I cannot strictly call your religion ‘wrong’, just misguided, unlike you.

Anyway what you’ve seen ITT is another Christian stating you do in fact receive rewards for prayer so there’s your ACTUAL Christian perspective for you :)

You have a good night, I know I will

But I didn’t mention the Hadiths.

Fuck those.

I'm neither a Christian or a Muslim.

Prayer doesn't work. It's just your mind.

It’s not just my mind because otherwise I wouldn’t have received blessings from other people who I prayed for in my life to push me in the right direction and help stabilize my surroundings.

These people did things and existed. And they exist because God is real.

The weather blows and you can tell it’s a response from God. I can see God interact with his people constantly, time is a continual lesson of Gods existence, how can you possibly be so blind?

You don't know what your mind is and you so easily claim it's not that. Blessings don't exist. God is just a concept in your mind and you are projecting that onto the world, the same way some guy in the middle of the jungle worshipping the monkey god thinks he has been "blessed" by his imaginary god.

Are you that guy who converted to islam and considers himself a Muslim neo platonist

>premarital sex in explicit disregard for church teachings
>surprised when it backfires

*unsheathes tinfoil*

Augustine would be to differ

Because I believe God interacts with people constantly? Please note, that’s what the Christian in this thread said.

What reason do you have to believe that people just talking to their idea of what god is made anything happen. There must be a simpler explanation

Your belief is based on what?

There is no simple explanation. The world you live in is a facade. They don’t want you to believe in God because they are hiding something themselves that they partake in : sin. Sin is sold wholesale these days for the elites to benefit off of, its no surprise atheism would be propagated as ‘scientific’

I can whistle to the birds and they will respond, even mock me. This is what Henry David Thoreau was intimating with the loon on Walden pond. Or what The Koran says when it exhorts birds for supplicating to God but opening its wings when it flies. Or how the trees move. They are all emblematic of God.

Everything these days seems too carefully placed. Like people want to hide a facet of reality or mask a force. This force is pure evil. And it’s currents will surely be destroyed.

As you read, you learn more about God, and realize that we have made little progress in the last 100 years and much regress. This is why you’re seeing a backlash against one of the most speculative branches of academia to exist: Darwinism

having sex before marriage is not immoral, having sex outside of love which is literally a divine gift to humanity and mammals as a kingdom, that is a sin against the holy spirit. Casual sex is totally debased, evil behavior, having sex with your gf to make her feel good and yourself is not evil
>despook yourself
>hypnotize yourself into being a disembodied libido
>oh fuck I still need oxytocin and empathy
>i still want cuddles
>i still want someone to call mine
>better do drugs and burn through some partners until im ugly and old and can't fuck anymore and have nothing
NO THEY WERE NOT
the pope is a pedophile money laundering demon puppet and everyone who prays to the vampiric Christian God is going to a NARAKA for trillions of years
>>Master Eckhart
MASK NIGGER HE'S HIDING, :WE DONT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD
>I mean I don't even like Nicene Christianity but damn what you said is incorrect
you listed a bunch of LARPing demon puppets, mysticism does not ever find its home in institutional religion on account of the pedophilia and eating children's flesh, stealing, assassinations and whatnot
this is correct, prayer will cause evil karma

You trade one facade for an older one
The result is the same.

*unsheates tinfoil*

>having sex with your gf to make her feel good and yourself is not evil
Yes it is, because you aren't married to her.

that's not logical or intuitive to me. I don't see why the state and a religious institute built by Roman and Byzantine families, cemented by predatory nobles and shilled by pedophile preachers and cardinals has anything to do with my love life at all. I never said monogamy was bad, I never said that sex should not be loving, I said you absolutely can have sex for pleasure and relaxation just as its ok to take a nice bath or get a back massage

I grew up similarly, it took a while for me to grow tired of the constant respect and 'honor' given to me by my peers and leaders - it was all so empty, it was a life mapped out and given to me a priori and I could see my future in that of the leading waves of generations, from the highest honor, leadership positions and the eulogies at their burials, to working adults piously serving the community and raising the next generation, to my path, each step worn deep and sure, to education and marriage.

A happy life, sure. Stability and security with the herd, yes. But it just feels so inorganic when a living ideology just carries you through life to death like one sitting in a raft on a slow stream during a cool spring day, awake enough only to taste the water with your fingertips and watch the sunlight move over the leaves. Following the leading generations at every fork and around every rock.

Honor is empty. Maybe there was true insight in that way before, true religious understanding, but I just dont see it anymore, there is nobody that I admire. Everyone has their secrets, their pain, i dont know. That might be just what it is to shoulder the burden of living in the world. Drug addiction. A lot of infidelity and unhappiness. Just too much pressure to keep a saintly face at all times really, and it is in that dissonance between the reality of constant hardship and unsurity where the dishonesty lies. Love is put away for the sake of fear, there it is - the most honest person that i met was a mildly uses whore.
I honestly just dont know man

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Honor is overrated. God was killed like a slave or a prisoner of war, while the men who condemned him were feted and honored by Jerusalem.

Sex is intimacy on a different level of taking a nice bath or getting a back massage you gay rascal

He didn't seem happy to me.

>Sex is intimacy on a different level of taking a nice bath
That doesn't make it something that pedophile blood drinking money grubbing priests need to put their stubby fingers into. Its also not so different that it can't also be a form of relaxing
>gay
no
>rascal
fuck off you cretin

Calm down you paranoid fuck

>that's not logical or intuitive to me.
If it's not logical or intuitive to you then you should follow what you feel better represents that. But why do you then think that you have the license to act like a hostile ranter and tell people how they should also intuit matters? You get to be subjective and intuitive, why don't they? Are you a cut apart from them? Somehow different and special? You sound like the token egomaniac who moves goalposts around to suit his own personal vagaries as he screams bloody murder at everyone else who doesn't subscribe to his own sensibilities. You get off on playing the judge.

Get off my board you fucking christcucks

Yes goy, paranoia is bad, take your blue pills

Veeky Forums has always been a Christian board friend. Might I suggest reddit instead?

Imagine being so dumb you actually believe in religion in the current year.

I thought lit was supposed to be one of the smart boards.

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because religious people will kill you or ruin you if you don’t do what they want and they’ll also talk about your personal habits as if they were public matters
>ranter
this is a public forum
>license to act how i want
there is nothing on earth stopping me from speaking how i want

christians don’t believe in subjective tastes or morals. and yes i am better than christians
>token egomaniac
that’s what all self murdered people say

>has premarital sex with a slut
>it goes wrong
>what did jeebus mean by this

All three boards Veeky Forums Veeky Forums and Veeky Forums have significant religious adherents. If you don’t believe, then kindly get your ass out of here. There is loads of literature written about the existence of such a being as God. You are obviously just blind to this.

Stupid anime poster

God existing doesn't mean your corrupt theocratic dictatorship is the one true religion.

Judt because a lot of people follow it doesn't mean it's true. With how stupid and suggestible most people are, what is most likely the case is that the more adherents a religion has, the less likely it is to be true.

You miss the entire point of Catholicism. Only sheep need be concerned of the lies of shepherds

You are sheep blindly following your faggot child raping priests. Perhaps you think your beliefs are philosophically justified but it's all based on groundless axioms that are easily dismissed falsifiable nonsense.

The entire point of Catholicism is to keep the dumb masses under control through ignorance and philosophical coercion

Stay butthurt my man, two thousand years strong and we aint going anywhere

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>The entire point of Catholicism is to keep the dumb masses under control through ignorance and philosophical coercion

You say that like its a bad thing

>our church was just censured for money laundering
>we’ve been caught plotting assassinations and the Jesuits functioned as an intelligence agency, secret society for hundreds of years
>we cooperated with the Nazis and the Jews
>we did nothing to stop the media sorcerer cults
>we’ve systematically raped, tortured and eaten children since our founding
>we’re a perverted blood cult taking from Roman secret societies
>we were literally founded by Roman bloodlines
>we wear labias and vulvas on our bodies and heads because we worship Lilith-Mary
>again, we’re intimately tied with the Mafia, intelligence agencies, human trafficking and occultism
>we wnet out of our way to massacre pre-christian societies and incinerated the only extant records of the wisdom cults we copied and then annihilated
>we live like princes but most of our followers are working class or destitute 3rd worlders
>no one has ever investigated our abuses in the 3rd world
>burned all the mayan occult texts, popul vuh barely survived
>raped literally stadiums full of aborigenes, native american and mesoamerican kids
>stolen tens of trillions of dollars in wealth
>at least a dozen popes were gay pedophile thieves
>a few popes practiced occultism for fun while they burned heretics
must be fun being a catholic and not knowing anything about power

Yeah you are. Only the most ignorant people are Catholic these days. Or fat loser larpers like the people on this site.

>be christian
>why do bad things happen? ablo bloo

seems like you fundamentally misunderstand the religion which has a main plot revolving around voluntary suffering and death on the cross, then resurrection

Good Larp. But any good Catholic knows that humans have free will. All evil is a result of free will. It is nothing more than the privation of Good, which flows from God through Christ and the Church. Your whore of a girlfriend committed a sin. Jesus did no such thing to you. If your faith is so flimsy that one bad relationship will ruin it then it was never strong to begin with. Take the Anticlimacus pill and denounce all worldly relationships as vanity--it's the only honest way to strive to be Christlike.

Soon the idea of a white Christian will be stranger than a white Muslim. When irreligion is the norm in Europe, Islam will take over and whites will convert to islam, then destroy all churches and Christian sites or convert them into mosques. Catholicism will be forgotten in Europe like it's totally forgotten in North Africa. Then the global jihad against christcuckery will commence and since only niggers and other subhumans will remain Christcucks, Christcuckery will stand no chance and be annhiliated.

nice cuckfic

unless you're actually brown, then lol

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>tfw regard myself as a mystic and regularly practice contemplation, meditation, and lectio divina
Don't exalt yourself, you might be humbled.

>"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"
You asked and you received. Who said God was going to give you what you asked for?

You are a Catholic for purely fashionable and shallow reasons. Maybe try another fad that would better make you look mature. One of my friends used to wear leather jackets to school, try that.

>having sex outside of love which is literally a divine gift to humanity and mammals as a kingdom, that is a sin against the holy spirit
lmao
you probably think love is a passion
loled @ u

educate yourself you dumb fuck, sex before marriage is immoral

>having sex with your gf to make her feel good and yourself is not evil
"Feeling good" is not the purpose of sex. It's like saying that "feeling good" is the purpose of eating.

You didn't read the one where Jesus says to not pray for things like that.

He says to pray to be free of temptation. He says to not brag about your religion like you are doing. He also says that it's her fault for cheating on you.

>you probably think love is a passion
it is, that's why it makes people impassioned much like a public event or a war
>loled @ u
go baq to twatter
>educate yourself you dumb fuck, sex before marriage is immoral
no, sex outside of love is immoral marriage is a cattle branding ritual from pedophile priests and the State who view you as equipment to produce capital
>"Feeling good" is not the purpose of sex
nothing has a purpose, one of the functions that ubiquitously associates with sex is feeling good, eating also feels good, that's why it relieves stress

both of you are autistic dipshits

Then you don't understand what happiness is outside of hedonistic pleasure

>this is correct, prayer will cause evil karma
I'm interested to hear your take as to why this is, out of sheer curiosity. Actually go into detail. Not one line of curt standoffish blurting.

>to produce capital

Oh the horror, they want us to be productive citizens

>nothing has a purpose
Christianity teaches the opposite, as I'm sure you are aware. You're not saying anything of interest.

You forgot that Christianity in China will be tolerated openly within twenty years, made the state religion in fifty, and the entire country will be Christianized within the century.

>He says to not brag about your religion
OP is a """Catholic""" so bragging about his religion is expected.

Have you read Confessions, which is explicitly about how the human heart (in his experience at least) cannot be happy without God?