I am a collectivist...

I am a collectivist, and I believe that socioeconomic class is a far more important group characteristic than race/culture/gender etc. What are some counter arguments to this which don't suck?

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Take it to Veeky Forums motherfucker. Mods! Mods!

There are none because genetics are far stronger than social class.

how about collectivism doesn't fucking work

write a reply to that garbage NYT article the other day claiming race was more important that class

read the spook man and realize your inconsistent notions of society and morality are retarded and gay

read wittgenstein and think about how to approach girls by being in control of the case, I swear I almost got it

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Except for the fact that collectivism is literally the only thing that has ever worked.

stirner. the group is a spook

People move up and down the economic ladder, the "1%" keeps the same share of the pie but the people/families who actually compose those 1% are quite different over time. I won't bother searching for primary sources, Thomas Sowell talks about this at great length in Intellectuals and Society, check it if you want.

Empirical evidence

This

>What are some counter arguments to this which don't suck?
-The break up of the Soviet Union
-The fact that all socialist nations had to relying on nationalism to prevent collapse
-The fact that nationalism persists and has consistently destroyed communist movements.
-That simple empirical evidence shows that most people do not place much importance on it.
-That even union movements spent more time fighting amoungst other workers than capitalists.

I will say some of the most important economists make room for some unbiased analysis of collectivization of production.

I’m reading Vilfredo Pareto right now and he does just this. He also analyzed pure competition and monopoly competition.

That's not an argument.

Meme history

who is that hero of the people?

calling things 'spooks' isn't an argument.

You know you've made it when you live amongst a majority of white people.

If you understand what a spook is and all that it entails, then yes, it is an argument.

Not a very good one since a healthy collective is good for me.

get the fuck off the board if you can’t read the sticky