Jinnah or Gandhi?

Who was a better leader? Who was right? Who was a better person? Who was a bigger revolutionary? And which country turned out better?

>Who was a better leader?

MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH.

>Who was right?

DEFINE "BEING RIGHT".

>Who was a better person?

FROM WHAT I CAN INFER, MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH.

>Who was a bigger revolutionary?

MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH.

>And which country turned out better?

GENERALLY, PAKISTAN.

INCIDENTALLY, HAS ANYONE ELSE BEEN EXPERIENCING PAKISTAN SYNCHRONICITIES FOR THE LAST ONE TO TWO DAYS? FOR THE LAST DAY AND A HALF I HAVE BEEN SEEING DIRECT, AND INDIRECT, REFERENCES TO PAKISTAN; I EVEN WATCHED THE "MOVIE" "JINNAH" (1998).

By right I mean what would be better, a united India of the partition

MOHANDAS GANDHI WAS IN FAVOUR OF AGGLOMERATING PEOPLES INTO AN HETEROGENEOUS NATION, ALONG SOCIOPOLITICAL LINES, EXPECTING INTERNAL CONFLICTS TO RESOLVE BY THEMSELVES VIA THE PREPONDERANCE OF A MAJORITARIAN SOCIOPOLITICAL CONSENSUS; ID EST: DEMOCRACY, OR TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY.

MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH WAS IN FAVOUR OF SECESSION ONLY AFTER RECOGNIZING THAT THE RADICALITY OF IDEALISTIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO MAJOR GROUPS WITHIN THE NATIONALISTIC MOVEMENT MADE THEIR MUTUAL CONFLICT VIRTUALLY UNSOLVABLE.

MOHANDAS GANDHI WAS A "USEFUL IDIOT"; MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH WAS AN AUTHENTIC NATIONALIST.

MOHANDAS GANDHI IS TO MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR WHAT MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH IS TO MALCOLM X.

MOHANDAS GANDHI IS TO THOMAS EDISON WHAT MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH IS TO NIKOLA TESLA.

MOHANDAS GANDHI IS TO SAUL OF TARSUS WHAT MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH IS TO SAINT JOHN.

MOHANDAS GANDHI IS TO TIM BERNERS LEE WHAT MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH IS TO TED NELSON.

MOHANDAS GANDHI IS TO NAZISM/NEONAZISM WHAT MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH IS TO NATIONAL SOCIALISM.

MOHANDAS GANDHI IS TO WHITE RICE WHAT MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH IS TO BROWN RICE.

Whichever country is better toilet trained is the better country.

pakistan then?

>Who was a better leader?

Jinnah

>Who was right?

Jinnah originally wanted a united state with heavy decentralisation, he only started campaigning for a pakistan because Nehru was too insistent on a centralised state. So Jinnah

>Who was a better person?

Jinnah

>Who was a bigger revolutionary?

Arguable, probably Jinnah

>Which country turned out better?

Honestly neither Pakistan or India are that great, Jinnahs idea of one state with decentralisation would have been the best possible solution

Also Ghandi isn't as relevant as people make him out to be, a better dichotomy would be Jinnah vs Nehru.

Gandi was a massive racist.

Nehru was an even bigger puppet than Gandhi, br0

Ask Bangladeshis who the better leader is.

Trust me, they'll say Jinnah every time :)

Taira ....

What the fuck?

Honestly I just think of Jinnah as the sub-standard Indian down the road which gives you free naan bread and a beer if you order over £20 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jinnah to all the questions, because he is Christopher Lee.

This is pure fucking gold!!!

1.) India is not an Islamic nation
2.) India has higher HDI than Pakistan
3.) India has higher GDP / capita than Pakistan
4.) India has more advanced military
5.) India's scientific productivity is higher than the per capita world average, Pakistan's is much smaller
6.) India has more developed domestic nuclear program
7.) India has more advanced service sector
8.) India is a secular democracy
9.) India eradicated polio
10.) India consistently has had faster economic growth

India started off with more and less developed populations too, it's a larger country that has completely trounced Pakistan in every metric that matters.

I'm pretty sure 1 is the reason for all the others.

Albeit India authentically has done a pretty impressive job considering what they started with.

where is pakistan space program?
India is set to trial its reusable launch vehicle this year.

Pakistan beats India I think in more Pakistan Internet defence force posts.

MEanwhile Indian become CEO of Microsoft and Google.

So what?

I don't doubt that, lots of India is also that way, very religious and backward.
the level of scientific thinking abysmal in a lot of India, so people just use tradition for everything, but thankfully Hinduism is too ideologically pluralist so it's easy to diffuse Hindu fundamentalism with development.

The only shame is that they went with a Soviet influenced model of economic development instead of going full freedom mode like South Korea or Japan.

I guess that's politics for you.