She has a point, you know?

I'm sure there's a couple of princes in the Gulf who wouldn't mind parting with that sum

Sell all synagogues and mosques, as well.

Give me 500 billion dollars and I'm confident I can do better.

And I am sure there is a world power an ocean away which wouldn't allow its stronghold in the area to be purchased from them.

thank you christian-san. 3 faithbucks have been deposited to your ascension account.

why stop there? why not sell and destroy every shrine, church, monument and temple humanity has ever built just to feed the poor. i'm sure they would greatly appreciate it!

I'm a middle class college student, the Catholic Church damned well better be doing more than me, it'd be pretty embarrassing otherwise.

>dood if you just give poor people a bunch of money, then poverty will disappear, because population growth is inelastic to resources, also who is malthus?
This is what liberals and "rationalists" literally, unironically believe.

yeah she clearly doesn't mean that they should literally sell the Vatican, she is just pointing out how out of order human priorities are from an international morally conscious standpoint. and yeah she's right, it really is stupid we have grandiose structures dedicated to an entity in 2016

~800 billion apparently.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_wealth

The idea goes that if you have a golden temple, more people will become christian when they see it and its glory than if it were a cave.
Doesn't sit too well with me, maybe it worked before the internet. I doubt any non-believers are turning christian when they walk past a fancy church these days.

>it really is stupid we have grandiose structures dedicated to an entity in 2016
The Vatican was not built in 2016. What are we supposed to do, bulldoze it? How would that redistribute anything other than rocks?

>malthus
some dude who was proven wrong

Most mosques are pretty cheap.
On the Balkans, almost all mosques were built in what were public baths or just upper-middle class villas.
Islam has passages about wasting wealth instead of distributing it among poor muslims.

No you wouldn't, you'd spend it all on cheetos and anime pillows

You got it the other way round

>feed the world

The dumbest thing I've ever heard. Free food handouts are killing 3rd world farming.

Why is it the people that post that they love science have never studied it past high school?

Religion played a major role in every society, you look at some of the most famous structures all over the world and they're probably linked to some religion, whether mosques in middle east or churches in europe.

It's only natural to dedicate all your resources to glorifying the god who was a part of practically everyones daily ritual.

I don't think it's so unreasonable, people drop a few hundred $ on a phone nowadays like nothing simply for the fact its one of the most important things in society.

There are some pretty damn extravagant mosques in the world.

Pic related cost like half a billion.

melt what you can down, recycle what you can? use the space for a nuclear power generator or something? save the art works in a museum? I dunno I'm sure someone can think of something more productive than "space waster" the building

>half a billion
>compared to 500 billions

Not too close, and I never said there arent expensive mosques, just that they were few, and exceptions.

I'd die of obesity and dehydration long before I spend even 0.1% of that fortune on cheetos and anime pillows.
Itasha, on the other hand...

you would melt down the worlds cultural heritage to feed the poor?

If saudis gave their money for the same goals instead of funding religious fanatics and terrorist it would be great as well.

HAhaha no, she deserves to be punched just for being that generic boring ass murican comedian

to build something with actual worth? sure, too bad the world doesn't manage itself globally so it wouldn't be used for maximum efficiency, but yeah in a countryless world I'm sure we would have found many better things to with the thing

are you saying.... vatical is the moral equivalent of saudi arabia?

>melt what you can down
Boy we sure are glad our ancestors melted down all those Roman statues to reuse that sweet bronze to make cymbals or some shit, let's melt the remaining ones

>recycle what you can?
Recycle what? Rock?

>use the space for a nuclear power generator or something?
Yes let's build a nuclear reactor right in the middle of Rome, that's a brilliant idea from every point of view

>save the art works in a museum?
Like the Vatican Museum, you mean?

The Vatican makes in a decade more than all the materials in it are worth, dumbass. Melting it for metals is the worst idea imaginable.

Just off yourself, you are giving all atheists a bad name.

if you dont care about worlds cultural heritage, the fuck are you doing on a history board?

Are you retarded? The buildings themselves are great works of art.

Also, why isn't she giving away her own wealth? She's worth 10 million dollars.

>they were few, and exceptions

The Saudi royal family spends quite a pretty penny in constutructing mosques all over the world and spreading wahabbism. Anyway the Vatican is worth a lot more than its monetary value

Pretty much yes. Except instead of funding terrorists they've gathered intelligence for NATO since early 80's.

Not to mention dumb shit they pulled off in China or Japan. Jesuits had it all figured out but Pope had to have autism attack.

I'd argue about the nuclear reactor bit, but Italians are absolute Mongoloids so it'd probably end up going Chernobyl.

>Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Yeah, that liberal cocksucker Jesus.

The arabs were the poorest people in the world like 60 years ago.
They are still learning how to invest. Look at Kuwait, no taxes, they give people money when they get married, or when they buy a house, or just random money gifts on holidays to citizens.

But yeah, Saudi Arabia has the long term plan of hosting the new caliphate. ISIS fucks with their plans though, and the guy in Jordan not dying of old age does too.

meant for

Shhhh, the role-playing Christ cucks don't know they pretend to worship a hardcore commie. Let them keep having their fun.

Didn't Jesus also say that the poor will always be with us?

And part of their long-term plan is funding ISIS.

>le socialist jew meme

bruh

piss off, juden

If she has a point, then I have one too!

We have way too many people on Earth. Start World War 3, MURDER ALL THE FUCKING HUMANS EVER.

See how retarded my point is? Hers is just as bad.

when did that happen?
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But overpopulation and the hypocrisy of the Vatican are both valid points, it's just that both solutions presented are dumb.

it "makes" nothing because it produces nothing of value, don't be a silly capitalist it's so 20th century
I do care about history, but I don't think it needs to physically exist to be remembered and studied and I certainly wouldn't rate history as more important than global wealth, as we are talking about priorities.
work of art or not we can probably use it for something more important, and as I've said it's more about looking at the priorities of humanity from a historical global viewpoint and seeing that we are shit at disturbing resources and that's sad, I don't care about her or what she's doing with her money, obviously humanity needs to decide on its own that running itself globally is more efficient and make the appropriate changes accordingly.

>90+% of the liberals will defend this

1.) They can't sell it, it doesn't belong to them. It's legally considered the patrimony of all Catholics.

2.) Who would buy it? There isn't exactly a market for that sort of thing.

3.) Even if they did manage to find a buyer, every work of art in the Vatican possesses a symbolic value of one Euro. Wouldn't exactly break the bank.

4.) They can make much more money from attracting tourists to go see their art than selling their art. This helps more people in the long run.

>when did that happen?
when population started shrinking in western world

>she is just pointing out how out of order human priorities are from an international morally conscious standpoint
Notice how she's going to buy herself a condo before moving on to feeding the starving.

Bing-fucking-o.

That's what I was trying to get at.

as I have said if humanity would have manage themselves on a global scale then I'm sure they could make something more important with the thing, as it stands now she is simply pointing out how humanity is good at wasting a shit ton amount of resources on grandiose temples but incapable of being empathic enough to stabilize a standard of wealth to itself as a whole. the Vatican is an exaggerated example for a philosophical point.

>I'd argue about the nuclear reactor bit
Why? There's surely a better use for space in the city center than replacing St Peter's Basilica with cooling towers, and it could be built closer to the river just outside of Rome if you really want a reactor close to the city.

I think the last time I saw a thread about this, somebody brought up the fuckloads of money the Church spends on charity, which fairly discredited the argument.

I'd also like to say that when you throw food at large groups of hungry people, they make more people and then run out of food. We need to stop giving handouts and start helping to build their economies. Instead of dropping in supplies, send some experts in to teach them viable agriculture.

That's true, I'd just figured it was more of the MUH MELTDOWNS fearmongering.

>feed the world
with what fucking food
there is no farmland left in the world not exploited at the moment
africans should just stop having 5-6 kids each and then they will not starve.

Do you really think it's a good idea building a nuclear reactor in the historical center of a city like Rome? And you talk about mongoloids

There are very few countries where population is actually shrinking. Globally, it's still growing rapidly. More to the point, what cat ladies in Italy choose to do has zero relevance to the question of the impact of foreign aid on Third World countries.

you obviously know shit about nuclear generators

Plenty of legit charities run programs that essentially increase capital (material or human) in Africa. Fighting starvation itself does increase human capital (through IQ), but sending tons of food is more something governments do. They don't actually want Africa to progress, at least not without getting their cut.

>wasting a shit ton amount of resources on grandiose temples
I'm not even christian but what? Do you really believe that's a lot compared to the resources the planet has to offer? And how is that a waste considering its beauty and magnificence? Not to mention the Vatican wasn't built exactly yesterday

I actually know stuff about nuclear generators

I'm sure world powers aren't too thrilled with the idea of a prospective pan-African hegemon.

let me put this in way you'll understand
pretty thing isn't more important than human happy
human need to take care of other human
but instead he spends time making pretty things for himself.

If that were the case then everyone and anyone shouldn't posess anything more than what is strictly needed to survive. The Vatican is worth more than a bunch of starving Africans

>selling Italy's cultural history to feed the poor

oy vey

>t. not a real Christian

Then do your part buddy, go out and help them, sell your possessions and give the money to the poor, nobody's stopping you.
Also, the people who paid and built the Vatican have died a long time ago yet here we are today still enjoying their work, that's pretty generous to me

Google the terms
resource based economy and the Venus Project

She has a global capitalist ideology, you know?

I'm not a word leader nor am I a politician, only the people who have power on a global scale can make the change needed for the world to be better, I can only voice my opinions and say it as it is
again it's not about literally selling the Vatican or thinking about a practical solution for world hunger it's about a philosophical idea of "look at humanity they can on the one hand build something incredible and on the other starve to Death."

So when she say's "sell the vatican" you take that to me we should not sell the vatican?

>only the people who have power on a global scale can make the change needed for the world to be better
>therefore I can keep buying SUVs and new smartphones while whining that the Catholic Church isn't pawning off artwork to feed the poor

are you capable of understanding a joke or an exaggerated example to demonstrate a point and not take everything literally like a retard?

Two questions.
Who's gonna guy the Vatican?
What are they gonna do with it?

Most Christian role-players on Veeky Forums are legit autistic, hence the role-playing.

I don't many materialistic things and sorry that I'm aware of my limited power over reality and have other things to do in life other than dedicating my whole existence for fixing humanity's fuck ups

1) I will.
2) Make Sarah Silverman eat it, stone by stone.

>I'm not a word leader nor am I a politician
The Pope isn't either

>I have other things to do in life other than dedicating my whole existence for fixing humanity's fuck ups
You and the other 7 billion people on the planet, buddy.

>you would melt down the worlds cultural heritage to feed the poor?
Jesus probably would

Not a bad idea.

But it's not an exaggerated example. It's a directly contradictory example. You could say she's employing irony, but than there's the problem that her audience seems to have taken it sincerely. But that's not an example of an exaggerated example.

If I said "Sarah Silverman deserves to be raped for this." You would probably take that to express a profound respect for women.

I contribute my time for a political group I believe in like the Venus Project if everyone would have done that we would live in a different world

You are on Veeky Forums right now posting this crap.

Instead you could be working right now and donating your wages to feed the poor.

You are a disgusting hypocrit who wants to sit back in judgement while the rest of the world has to fix it.

>This whole thread

>>>/reddit/

>send food to africa becuase they dindu no' how to into agriculture
>shiiet
>they get another 40 days of living
>suddenly they multiply by 15
>shiietx15
>need to send mo monay for dem programs

very sustainable, rather let natural selection do it's work, perhaps that's why afeica is so shitty, they've had other nations pay, work and build everything for them for so long, removing them from any sort of selective evolution altogether

Can we please have this practise where people pay taxes and they get to choose where their tax money goes to?
Leftists can't complain, their money still goes to helping rapefugees, the unemployed and the downtrodden. I just don't want to pay for it and I should have the freedom to do so.

oh man she makes my dick hard