So, realistically, how can you achieve unification between North and South Korea?

Really? Do tell.

The North integrates the South, and they all praise the Great Leader.

"pacifies the country"

Good, that should be easy.

Best answer ITT. The border between Nortj and South still need to be controlled

How the unification occurs, and whether it happens at all for that matter, depends how China reacts. China have little love for North Korea, but they aren't too keen on having a pro-America country so close to their border either. If the North Korean regime collapses, I think there's going to be a mad dash between China and South Korea/US to set up a puppet government first.

On the topic,i was wondering, do we know how much ,if at all, people in NK hate their government? Do we know of any sognificant resostance or are people brainwashed well enough?

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>So, realistically, how can you achieve unification between North and South Korea?

Capitalism and free trade

United States stops giving a fuck. Military conquest with it actually going to fuck up parts of China if tries to pull some dumb shit.

i would love to see this happen

Maximum communism all over the peninsula.

I don't think Korean unification would benefit China a lot more than it would the US given once North Korea is gone the South's foreign policy is going to change radically. I wouldn't imagine SK would stay so pro-America in the event of unification.

As it stands there's only one country they hate half as much as they hate North Korea and that's Japan thus it would make sense for them to move away from the US and towards China diplomatically.

China-South Korea relations are actually very good and trade with SK is far more important to China than keeping NK around. Cold War rhetoric is no longer important because China has kept the authoritarianism but totally abandoned Marxist/Maoist economic autism. If SK agrees that United Korea will lose the US bases (which it will since they are not too popular to begin with and with NK gone and a friendly China next door there will be no reason to keep) and possibly that Chinese companies will get favored status in exploiting the mineral wealth of the North (thanks to the glory of socialism, NK is starving to death as usual while SK is actually the half of the peninsula with pretty much no natural resources compared to the north. When chaebol Korea gets its hands on those Korea will have an economic boom like no other despite the cost of reintegrating the northern half.)

The only way for it to survive for a couple decades more I think is for real China-style reformers to take power. At which point 1 country 2 systems with South Korea will likely be agreed to anyways.

That's the reason they themselves want it. But I still agree with you.

I'm pretty sure most N.Koreans are skeptical of the party line, but have no means or really, reason to revolt.

They're completely cut off from the rest of the world, so all they know is the Korea around them. They know that N.Korea has some serious issues, but they have no idea what life is really like in the rest of the world. They assume the lives they live are completely normal and that they are relatively well off compared to others in the world.

Not necessarily. We know that a lot of western or south korean media gets smuggled in through the Chinese border, so people in the northern region at least has some idea what's going on outside, even if it may be dramatized.

There's also the more well off people in Pyongyang who may be able to leave the country if their job required it. They don't do anything because they fear retribution, and don't mind the status quo.

REBIRTH OF HWAN EMPIRE WHEN?

Like most places 'hate their government' is multi-layered, and nuanced for them.

A lot of the inner party outside the Kim family is loathed, and they know it. Everybody knows it. The Kim dynasty is largely adored. Even among exiles, most of them really believe they're good people. It's like the Tsars and King's of France before the revolution. If only we could kill those assholes around the king, and he could see what things were really like, he'd move heaven and earth for us!

And it's not like it's entirely propaganda that does this. There's also the Kim dynasty style of rulership. Basically, first, the ruling Kim sets a goal. Then, a bunch of ministers try and implement it. If things go south, the Kim's fire him, and have a show trial, revealing corruption, and abuses against the populace (which is almost always true, see: people hate the inner party). The leader is tactically positioned to only be responsible when things go correctly, and being the solution when things go wrong.

Part of the regimes stability is that the biggest hardliners, the military, are also the most widely respected and trusted.

The parts of the regime most likely to talk about 'maybe we need more openness' are also the parts most likely to be flying out to Thaland for ladyboy fucking.

>they themselves want it
Only in a romantic sense. Hell would freeze over before South Korea willingly embraces the economic disaster that is a merger with the backwater North.

When Korean cease to be an American military base and can be truly independent or even lean towards China. China would probably let NK collapse and work out a refugee plan/economy integration plan together with SK. Doing so would gain an easy ally for China in the region and let a united Korea be THE regional power that curbs Japanese influence.

>it would make sense for them to move away from the US and towards China diplomatically.
I don't know if that would happen so drastically.
Korea shares very little with China, maybe the strict porn regulations and government scandals. In almost every other way they are modeled like the US and, ironically, Japan. I can't see SK dropping them like flies to get close to a nation they haven't had anything in common with for centuries.

people near the border hear kpop jams blasting every time Kim starts his monthly tantrums

fuck

Korea was thankful for American support in the Korean War, but beyond that America is felt to be overstaying its welcome in recent years. Koreans also loathes Japan but is forced to work with it under the American system of alliance. China and Korea does not have a large conflict of interest and Korean education emphasize its role in the Korean War. An alliance is mutually beneficial and can shake up the American dominated system since United Korea can afford to be more independent. Enemies and friends don't remain forever, and sharing "values" is only a political slogan when national interest is at stake.

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>If SK agrees that United Korea will lose the US bases
Lmao, as if Murrica would let that happen.
Look at Germany, they still have their bases over there.

Let me be clearer. I meant they as in they the Korean people. Naturally the government wouldn't want the clusterfuck that is North Korea on their hands. And rightly so.

Yes and no. There's a somewhat sizeable black market with shit from K-pop to pirated South Korean DVDs and shit.

There is some idea of what outside live is like. They know something is off.

N. Korea just says those TV shows are science fiction of what Communist future will look like in 100 years.

>shrimps

They're prawns you dumb septic.

State capitalism would be needed. It's what got SK out of the dirt.

Free trade would have to be implemented later.

kek that'd be the day

South Korea needs like 15-20 million workers to continue its economic growth, so the perfect solution is North Korea

>A lot of the inner party outside the Kim family is loathed, and they know it.

"It's not the supreme leader, it's his immediate subordinates who is to blame for this." I thought this mentality was a unique to China. Interesting.

It was the same in Nazi Germany. My great grandma to her death said "If only Hitler knew about the concentration camps, he would've put an end to it."

>kill kim
>all of korea unites

boy that was easy

Too bad he didn't finish the job

he knew completely and initiated the final solution