Can we talk about Catholic saints?
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Aroused nuns thread
that's the one where the angel makes her orgasm to death right?
ohhhhh stop it
My favorite saint is Francis de Sales, patron of writers and journalists. I got confirmed in his name when I was in middle school, since even back then I wanted to be a writer.
I have read his "Introduction to the Devout Life." It's really great and I highly encourage anyone just examining Christianity to check it out.
Any thoughts on Lourdes?
>Aroused
Not really.
It's interesting to me how some Saints seem to have almost superhero like status from having legends mixed together. They end up doing things that you don't expect.
Reading on Saint Martha lately has made that stick out to me. Like how the hell did it turn out that the sister of Lazarus, who knew Jesus, somehow traveled to Provence to tame a big turtle dragon?
we wuz saints et stercore
>superhero
pic related
Pious tradition is amazing, user.
And since Tradition has the same weight as Scripture for Catholics, we're actually supposed to believe it all--or at least, we're supposed to believe it's true in some sense or another.
Are there any black Catholics in burgerland?
Daily reminder that Christ's Church was dead for over a thousand years until THIS based man raised it from the tomb
pic related
St. George is literally a superhero
maybe a few in Louisiana, don´t really know
that saint was peruvian
get out
John Paul II got an official Marvel comic. From Marvel.
i fap to the theotokos 2bh.
i hope one day she'll intercede on my behalf and ask the big guy to forgive me for such a grave sin. though i do hope she's kind of embarrassed when she asks, that'd be pretty hot.
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NO
Sacrilege is not edgy fun. It's heinous.
who said anything about edgy?
i've always had a strong connection to the blessed mother (my italian grandma had a shrine of her statues and paintings in her house, so she stuck with me from very young age), and over time it turned severely sexual.
>severely sexual
lad...
aliens
Please repent.
It is truly a grave and evil sin.
What about nun porn?
Any thoughts on Saint Joseph of Cupertino?
He was said to levitate often, this is something I have a hard time grasping. Especially since the Saint was known as intellectually deficient in a certain respect.
Right, like I said, a grave and evil sin.
>Right
?
Is there a specific rule against beating it to Mary specifically, or is it just part of the general nofap thing?
>And He said to them, "Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you."
better to fap to Mary than being gay and fap to St Sebastian
t. Opus Dei member
Catherine of Siena was an anorexic who starved herself to get out of a marriage and join a convent so that she could take a vow of fasting and live out the rest of her days eating nothing but communion wafers and lapping the pus out of injured peoples' wounds until she died of complications from anorexia at age 30.
God loved her so much he decided her corpse's head should rot slower than everyone else's.
General no fap.
But stroking it to Mary is particularly evil as she is the Holy Virgin Mother of our LORD.
Or just not fapping at all.
Is it really that difficult?
>particularly evil as she is the Holy Virgin Mother of our LORD.
That sounds like someone's reasoning, and not, say, scriptural or dogmatic.
What I mean is, are there any passages in the New Testament or suggestions by the Church Fathers that fapping to Mary in particular is expressly evil?
Well, she may have been a virgin when God raped her, but apparently Jesus had siblings, so there's no doubt Mary fucked Joseph repeatedly. Probably stuck her thumb up his ass like the dirty Jew whore she was.
Sure. None of them are anything more than human and it's all a lie.
Talk over.
do you think mary hates me? for what i've done and will continue to do into the foreseeable future?
>None of them are anything more than human and it's all a lie.
Well that's not true, several of the Saints were pagan deities before being euhemerised.
She is also a great mystic, a great theologian, and a Doctor of the Church.
It's not, though.
There isn't going to be a verse forbidding Christians for every single specific sin.
I would think that the LORD gave Man a fair amount of reasoning power to know the difference between what is good and what is heinous and wrong.
I hope that helps.
>for what i've done and will continue to do into the foreseeable future?
Nice trolling reprobate.
Reminder that the Bible says nothing about masturbation. Staring at women like a pig IRL and watching porn is wrong of course though but then again there's nothing wrong with looking at paintings or photos of clothed or unclothed women to appreciate their beauty without masturbating as long as you don't think stuff like ''I would fuck her hard in every hole'', you should just feel love, like when you look at images of the Blessed Virgin Mary though in this case it's a different kind of love of course.
If you can't focus/sleep and/or are losing your mind because of ''no fap'' there's literally nothing wrong with masturbating to let it out, it's uncomparable to adultery, as long as you don't do so by looking at women.
You'd literally never get married if God actually forbid you to appreciate female beauty. Read: jasonstaples.com
Some have said that Jesus had siblings,
others say it should be interpreted as "cousins"
The Church believes in her perpetual virginity. So I don't know if that helps.
Leave this thread you filthy biblically illiterate proddy.
>The Church believes in her perpetual virginity.
Why? Are they retarded? The original meaning wasn't even "virgin", just "young woman".
I think the verse "do not let your seed fall to the ground" pretty much covers it. (Genesis 38:9)
Let alone you are essentially preventing life by killing your seed hence it can be considered a proto-form of birth control.
Btw, I can't believe I'm telling you degenerates this on a thread dedicated to the veneration of Saints.
>difference between what is good and what is heinous and wrong.
Obviously, but that still doesn't explain why fapping to Mary would carry heavier baggage of sin than fapping to any other woman.
>The original meaning wasn't even "virgin", just "young woman".
Source please.
Fine.
I don't know, I would assume because she is the Mother of God Himself like I mentioned earlier.
Just stop fapping.
I remember Constantine saying something about "virginity" being a matter of intent. As in, a girl willingly giving a blowjob would not be seen as a virgin, whereas a girl who was raped and lost her physical virginity would actually retain it in a holy sense. Or something.
So seeing as how Mary did not willingly behave sexually to Joseph (and also fathered God's son without a real choice in the matter), she's pribably still considered "virginal".
>"do not let your seed fall to the ground"
Why are you taking it out of context? It was a command to a specific person who was given a specific task.
>degenerates
Why?
>So seeing as how Mary did not willingly behave sexually to Joseph
The author of "Mathew" begs to differ.
biblegateway.com
Saint Constantine the Great commissioned statues of of himself styled like pagan gods despite having claimed to have become Christian. He killed a lot of people. He had his firstborn son poisoned and his first wife scalded to death and then tried to erase all mentions of them from the historical record. He really helped kickstart the practice of relic worship by having his hair and toenail clippings sent to various places around the empire for people to pay tribute to. He died believing that God the father was superior to and distinct from Jesus Christ, a heresy known as Arianism which is condemned by every extant branch of Christianity.
For these things, and others, he is worshiped as a saint by people who really should get some better role models.
WHO KNOWS KOINE GREEK ITT?
GET IN HERE, THIS HAS GOTTA BE A MISUNDERSTANDING
It says in the Gospels explicitly she knew no man. The meaning of the word, in both Greek and Hebrew, is of course broader than virgin, but it was understood mean virgin after the virgin birth. Prophecies in general, from the Orthodox and Catholics perspective (unlike the Jewish and Protestant perspective), are not really understood until after they transpire.
>It was a command to a specific person
Please remind me who this man was.
In any case, Jesus said whosoever looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28).
I challenge you to fap without looking at or thinking about sex. If not, it's essentially adultery.
>Let alone you are essentially preventing life by killing your seed hence it can be considered a proto-form of birth control.
There's nothing wrong with cumming down your wife's throat senpai. Stop making up unbiblical rules.
Thomas Aquinas was also capable of levitation, and had a vision of Christ stepping down from the cross and offering him whatever he desired. Aquinas is reported to have replied, "Only you, O Lord."
>Please remind me who this man was.
Onan and it applied to him only.
>In any case, Jesus said whosoever looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28).
Read my post:
>You'd literally never get married if God actually forbid you to appreciate female beauty. Read: jasonstaples.com
>Prophecies in general, from the Orthodox and Catholics perspective (unlike the Jewish and Protestant perspective), are not really understood until after they transpire.
You realize this makes "genuine" prophecies impossible to distinguish from fraudulent ones?
i remember constantine fighting arianism tooth and nail.
is there something i'm missing here?
also he oversaw the enserfdom of Europe's peasantry and refused to be baptized until he was on his deathbed so that he could be cleansed of as many sins as possible in one go
:D
>Just stop fapping.
What, like in general?
Well, yeah, lots of people make prophecies. Some are completely false, some are completely true, some are only true in a sense. It IS hard to tell them all apart.
This is why in the ancient world prophecies were kind of useless on an immediate time-frame. You could only really trust the ones from 'reputable' sources like the Oracle at Delphi.
how do you explain protip: you can't
Yes.
You have to be a Troll, and possibly a Jew.
Even if you are serious, masturbating to Mary out "of love" goes beyond evil and is something I would categorize as "sick".
Shame on me for responding to a troll, because you cannot possibly be this degenerate.
duh
He was baptized by an Arian on his deathbed ( en.wikipedia.org
>masturbating to Mary
I'm not that retard.
My first post is
Absurd. Which Christian sect lets me fap without otherworldly consequence? There's gotta be one.
And as you can read in my post:
>you should just feel love, like when you look at images of the Blessed Virgin Mary though in this case it's a different kind of love of course
>It IS hard to tell them all apart.
No, it's actually impossible. Even if I prove a given prophecy didn't happen, you can just say "it hasn't happened.... yet!". Prophecies are so useless as evidence for anything that the simple fact that religious people rely on them is proof enough that there's nothing to their beliefs.
Well in a vacuum it's impossible, but when they're specifically made by prophets devoted to God, they gain more credibility, at least if you believe in God.
There's actually an interesting prophecy about the Catholic Church that's somewhat accurate, and may wind up being fully accurate depending on how the next few decades shake out. I'll see if I can find it.
how is that his fault and why should he suffer eternally for it?
that guy was probably some scheming secret arian who tried to condemn the righteous constantine on purpose.
>but when they're specifically made by prophets devoted to God, they gain more credibility,
Not to me they don't. Some huckster making a crooked living pretending to talk to god has zero credibility until he can actually produce some evidence. Prophecy is not evidence, it's pure woo.
>at least if you believe in God.
I know an idiot who believes in magic and stupid shit like that, he swears blind that Nostradamus has NEVER been in error, that every one of his prophecies has either been fulfilled or has yet to be fulfilled (but will be, honest injun!)
Does my friends incredible credulity and obvious lack of reasoning abilities lend more credence to Nostradamus?
Being baptized by Eusebius doesn't make him an Arian. Constantine was just very good friends with Eusebius, but he had exiled him earlier for maintaining Arianism after the Council of Nicea. Eusebius was reconciled with him after renouncing Arianism and being reinstated. He might or not might not have secretly held it, but that doesn't have anything to do with Constantine's baptism, which was into the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Learn how to write grammatically. The way you type makes you seem like an extremely stupid person not worth bothering to reply to.
what exactly was ungrammatical about my post?
Sentences in English begin with a capital letter.
please respond to
>until
See Luke 20:43
Constantine convened the First Synod of Tyre in 335 (just 2 years before his death) at which the council of bishops restored Arius to the communion and banished Saint Athanasius, Arius' primary theological opponent, from the Empire. Constantine also chose Eusebius to baptize him personally.
so what you're saying is, you judge post quality and the intelligence of a poster based on your personal criteria of whether his sentence begins with capitalization or not.
yes that seems very intelligent of you.
>I can't sin?! Better find a religion that will let me!
I have a few questions. What are hell, purgatory and heaven like? Is there any marital sex? How are people dressed there? Are nuns still dressed like nuns? Will we ever see God the Father?
W-what? How is that relevant to Mary sleeping with Joseph?
Then why did Constantine have Arius himself restored to the church and Saint Athanasius banished at the Synod of Tyre?
What I'm saying is that you seem like an very unintelligent person. Please adopt a trip so I can filter you.
I'm saying your entire reading of the passage is based on a preconceived idea of how "until" is being used.
See the literal rendering of the King James
>And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son
The word "till" here does not imply he knew her afterward.
>The word "till" here does not imply he knew her afterward.
Yes, it does. Otherwise it would just say "He knew her not." But it doesn't, it clarifies that he didn't know her UNTIL after Jesus was born.
The Council convicted Saint Athanasius, the Emperor cleared him.
it seems to do just that to me, Theodosius
What would /rel/ be like?
actually that was a rhetorical question because it is exactly what you were saying, and now you're backpedaling on top of it.
i'm not surprised at all honestly.
Again, see Luke 20:42-43, and try your reading of "until" there. It's obviously not saying, "stop sitting at my right hand after I make your enemies your footstool."