All conditioned things are impermanent

>All conditioned things are impermanent.

What did he mean by this?

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No object willed itself into existence but subsists in web of mutually reinforcing interrelationships

More, all objects/phenomenas do not have a core essence for its existence. The existence of objects, thus, depend purely on its relation to other objects.
Without core essences, objects are allowed to change its shape/form/name/etc and this allows objects to exist. Yet, at the same time, they cannot exist permanently as they are without an eternal essence.

what are you thoughts on the tie in to humanity

i.e. im only human if you recognize me as such & vice versa

That all such things are not worth clinging to, as they do not make you happy.

The Buddha provides a way how not to cling, and thus attain peace.

The scope of the buddhism axioms is wide and universal. You can try to tie in the existence of solar system to its planets and sun. The existence of planets to the inhabitants/rocks/animals. The existence of moon to its planet. etc.

You could even go down to conceptual levels too. Existence of left to right. Existence to non-existence. Pain to Pleasure, etc.

Point isn't to linger on, but rather to get an understanding of reality and then move on by learning from it.

Yes, this is the doctrine of anatman or no-self. Your consciousness is simply the consciousness that corresponds to your body. In other words, your soul does not have a body, your body has a "soul". Think of awareness as water and your body as a particularly shaped vessel. The shape the water conforms to when "poured" in the vessel is what you erroneously believe to be your self, which has no intrinsic existence or absolute essence beyond it just being a particularized awareness molded by the specific biological and genetic factors of your body.

Once you stop clinging to your "share" of your water, and realize what you truly are is not an awareness shaped by assemblage of arbitrary, contingent biological factors, and interbalize your original and true nature as a pure, transcendent, unconditioned consciousness (merely individuated and darkened by form), dukkha ceases

All things, conditioned into existence by causes, are changing and stressful. All things are unstable due to their changing. All things are unreal due to their unstability. Don't chase unreal things. Once you stop doing that, you will recognize them to be fundamentally nonexistent. In this is the absence of stress.

Everything we experience is conditioned by other things so that if they arise they must necessarily pass away, never beingin the same state permanently.

For example the image you are looking at now is conditioned by the generation of light through tiny pixels on your computer screen. These lights will either cease when you turn off your computer or it will reconfigure to produce a different image, never constantly in that state of existence but in a flux of continual change.

This is why the Buddha prescribed detachment because when good things come to an end, we tend to become unsatisfied after having clinged to them.

That which has a form, will one day break.
Something like that, I guess.

He wasn't trying to make an argument about the nature of reality, because, really, is everything that impemanent? Couldn't we love a tree and get attached to a tree without having too much fear that it'll some day go away before we die? So a lot of things are pretty permanent, such as the fact that if you've managed to buy a house in the Western World, you almost certainly will be able to continously live in some kind of house for the rest of your life.

Instead, he was trying to tell us not to get deeply emotionally invested in outcomes in life, and he wanted us just to float through life in a quiet, neutral state as much as possible and that the only possible way was to stop getting angry, stop loving so deeply and romantically, stop hating other people, stop loving material things, but also to stop striving so ferverently for spiritual enlightenment as a goal in and of itself to the point where you beat yourself up over not going about it the right way or fast enough.

Your life is not permanent. If your measure of "permanent" is your life span, then you'd be a solipsist.

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Body is nothing more than emptiness,
emptiness is nothing more than body.
The body is exactly empty,
and emptiness is exactly body.
The other four aspects of human existence --
feeling, thought, will, and consciousness --
are likewise nothing more than emptiness,
and emptiness nothing more than they.

All things are empty:
Nothing is born, nothing dies,
nothing is pure, nothing is stained,
nothing increases and nothing decreases.

So, in emptiness, there is no body,
no feeling, no thought,
no will, no consciousness.
There are no eyes, no ears,
no nose, no tongue,
no body, no mind.
There is no seeing, no hearing,
no smelling, no tasting,
no touching, no imagining.
There is nothing seen, nor heard,
nor smelled, nor tasted,
nor touched, nor imagined.

There is no ignorance,
and no end to ignorance.
There is no old age and death,
and no end to old age and death.
There is no suffering, no cause of suffering,
no end to suffering, no path to follow.
There is no attainment of wisdom,
and no wisdom to attain.

>is everything that impermanent

He never said everything is impermanent. Only conditioned existence is impermanent. A tree is itself conditioned by its roots, its leaves, the sun light it uses and the water it needs. A drought could easily disintegrate its existence, leaving you in needless grief. Same goes for housing, its conditioned by it's size, the furniture, the myriad of stuff in it etc. If you've lived in a mansion for most of your life but suddenly had to live in a single story house then you'd be unsatisfied because you were attached to that mansion (ie its components).

One thing I've never really understood, is having consciousness past suffering. Isn't consciousness in some way a manifestation of a desire for self, and identity?

Consciousness is awareness, simply. You are aware of the surroundings, your actions, etc. Thats consciousness. Desires, inhibitions, pulls are simply habits that can be broken/rewritten with proper meditation and understanding of the nature of thoughts.

But can there be a 'you' without attachment to the current form the water takes?

>Only conditioned existence is impermanent

Isn't everything conditioned in one way or another? So that just means everything is impermanent.

Except nirvana, which is the only state free from conditions, and hence every buddhist's goal.

>water form
Thats another person. Its a bad analogy or bad understanding of buddhism in my opinion.

No, it isn't. There can be a 'you' when the 'you' is the water (consciousness-of-consciousness, I-that-is-I) and not the "shape" (ego) it takes in your body.

new age hippie hocus pocus gibberish

pantheism is gnostic occult luciferian trash

wow epic bro thanks for posting

>buddhism
>pantheism
Why are so many Veeky Forums posters unapologetically retarded?

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>Isn't consciousness in some way a manifestation of a desire for self, and identity?
yes
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>Isn't consciousness in some way a manifestation of a desire for self, and identity?
yes
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Sounds like Parmenides t b h.

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Poetry about a divine being communicating metaphysical truths through strange contradictions... huh, now that you mention it, yeah.

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