Go on amazon to buy clothes

I grew up in rural Alabama, but even in New England that seems to be the prevalent attitude of blue-collar people and, for whatever reason, engineers.

Yeah, men tend to hate life about 3 years into marriage.

You can see they're at the point where they just exist and not live

>put on some tricky rick
>mfw i am the ubermensch

That's what they get for either still being addicted to the chase and marrying too early or not marrying someone with her own (high-earning) life going on who's too busy to nag them.

>>go on amazon to buy clothes
whoops!

Engineering is the white-collar career for blue collar people.

It's basically what people who are stuck in a blue-collar "gotta suffer and build stuff or you're a pussy" mentality who go to college do.

You shouldn't get me wrong. I meant that as praise, not a cut. Blue collar mindset is superior to white collar, look at all the arts degree fags and their bizarre inability to handle basic aspects of reality. The fact that a side effect is many engineers don't give a fuck what they wear as long as it's practical is comparatively irrelevant. Veeky Forums's nice, but it isn't everything.

>Blue collar mindset is superior to white collar
They're both just the mindsets that make it easiest to survive in the person's surroundings. Blue collar mindset gets in the way of climbing in white collar settings.

>look at all the arts degree fags and their bizarre inability to handle basic aspects of reality
Look at all the bankers, consultants, doctors, lawyers and other professionals who aren't like that at all. Loads of tumblr people are poor as shit, if you pay attention.

More often or not in America, the wife takes on the duties his mother left off. And that includes dressing him. Cuckland.

Case in point: engineering graduate salaries may be high to start off but they cap out lower and faster than many other white-collar professions. You have to get out of the engineer mindset to break into higher management.

Since this is Veeky Forums I feel like I have to point out that engineering actually still counts as a blue-collar job in the technical literal sense. Of the professions, only in engineering is it traditionally accepted and normal to wear a blue shirt to work instead of white.

Daily reminder 99% of men think these are "dress shoes"

>you said it's a nice restaurant, right?

Being serious for a moment - what the fuck happened? I don't expect everybody to be "fashionable", but what happened that *everybody* gravitates to this slobby "athletic wear" style? Something must've gone very wrong sometime maybe 30 or so years ago? It wasn't always this way...

I think a smaller percentage of the population does either dirty blue collar or high-class white collar work where their work clothes are dictated by rules of either practicality or image. Now a lot of people are in offices where they can wear whatever they want and they don't know what to do.

On the other hand, real athletic wear is comfy. I know a former partner at a top NY investment bank who wears sweats all day when he doesn't have to meet with people, but wears expensive suits and Hermes ties for meetings.

Also the reduction in the number of people that go to traditional churches.
Religion in general has been dropping, but the new "casual" churches - where you can show up in jeans in a t-shirt - are growing.

People used to dress up to go to church.
Boys learned how to wear a suit, and tie a tie, because they went to church on Sunday morning. Not anymore.

But yes, for a large section of America, "nice" is jeans and a polo.

>really strongly speaks to a lack of education and culture.
Or it speaks to the mass production and wider availability of cheap clothing products and refocused attention away from public acceptance and onto personal acceptance and success. Maybe not, I always forget how much better everyone on this board is compared to those stained-sweatpants-wearing casual-nike-wearing yokels you see out on the streets.

I can't fathom how people think that these look good. I'm not even talking about wearing those for "dress shoe" "replacements" - but even for casual wear.

I see those shoes all the time. What goes through peoples' minds when they buy them? Even basic running shoes look better than those abominations.

Spotted the prole.

What he's saying is that trying to dress well is going out on a limb because it risks exposing that you don't know how. Class insecure people would rather just not try so they can't fuck up.

I think it's more about changing culture and attitudes. People used to dress up to try to appear above their social class; you might see a lower-class person wearing a really cheap suit - but still a suit nonetheless, as he was literally trying to "dress to impress."

Something changed, though. People don't do this anymore. Maybe after the middle class grew on its own accord, people stopped caring about this sort of thing. Then the 80s hit with athleleisure in full swing (no doubt in part by marketing), and peoples' attitudes changed even more. The sneaker (though of course popular earlier) because the ubiquitous "casual" shoe. We haven't "recovered" from this athleleisure blast of the 80s that continued in full swing to today - once you hit a baseline of a T-shirt, shorts, and running shoes, you really can't drop lower. Why would the average, clueless, "I don't care about fashion" male wear anything else if this was the baseline he and his peers have come to?

In daily life, sure, but the inability to dress more formally is pretty bad since more people than ever can afford to do so. Back in the day, suits were a big class marker because nice ones cost several months pay for a laborer, but you can get a suit that looks like 7/10 for a couple hundred bucks now.

This. Wear a button up, some dark jeans, and boots and everyone will flip out.

Thanks for describing it more practically, and also agreeing, I'm actually very unsure if my analysis is correct. I accidentally ended up in a university filled with middle class suburban wads - spoiler: my father is alumni but it's clearly not the same place it used to be, I know I fucked up for not judging it myself before committing - and it's only confirmed my suspicion that class is more a mindset/culture than it is material, in the sense of the British' fallen noble. But maybe I'm just divorced from actually productive communities

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>his smile and optimism: gone

What's pic related a quote from?

Lets' not forget that most of the time normies assume "nice" clothes are going to be expensive.

Why spend 40 dollars on jeans when Walmart sells them for 10?

Why buy 70 dollar shoes when you can get Asics running shoes for 20?

If you buy everything in XXL you won't outgrow it

I don't think you understand the extent to which most husbands are beta cuckolds

I was sick for two weeks last year and wound up watching a marathon of Pawn Stars. Every third guy that walked into the store with something to sell confessed that he had to get rid of it because 'his wife didn't like/want it'

Women select husbands based on their ability to provide. Many of them already have kids by another man and are looking for a solid meal ticket for the foreseeable future. So you have these beta cuckolds married to a used up bitch who might have been decent looking 15 years ago, but who is now old and obnoxious. But these cucks still grovel at their feet because they've never had any success with women, and their wives lord over them.

>select all images with a shed

>tfw gf is a doctor who knows she's not the hottest I've had
feels good man

Saint-just

>I was sick for two weeks last year and wound up watching a marathon of Pawn Stars. Every third guy that walked into the store with something to sell confessed that he had to get rid of it because 'his wife didn't like/want it'

Are you seriously using Pawn Stars to prove an argument? You think Pawn Stars is an accurate representation of reality? You realize that it's scripted and staged, right?

4channers are fucking stupid.

wait.. you're... you're basing your stereotype of "most husbands" off of people on pawn stars

lmfao

i mean you're using "cuck" so yeah

it's just an observation shitlord. go out into the world and look around you at married couples. in many cases you'll find the husband is a sorry cuck who gets bossed around by his wife because she has the vagina, i.e. something he can't get anywhere else

speaking of cuckdom, the number of men voluntarily raising another man's child is astounding. at the opposite end of the spectrum you have dindus, who won't even raise their own kids

Fucking teenagers

married cuck detected

does your wife at least let you prep the bull?

>Nuh uh I'm a real man because I have a four-door truck and a bass boat that my wife lets me take to the lake once a month
Not all married men are like that but it's an appreciable number.

That actually sounds pretty smart.

pawn stars is fake as fuck you idiot

>tfw mom still buys me clothes I don’t need or want

God damn it

employee interactions are scripted, customer interactions are not

>this
>scripted

youtube.com/watch?v=lL6bCojG7_s

Just because Pawn stars is "fake" doesn't mean these people don't exist. I mean the stereotype exists for a reason. There's plenty of dumb "just wanna enjoy my hobby but my wife won't let me" guys in this world, and if you think otherwise you'd be gravely mistaken.

Heed my warning user, In 20 years you'll be looking at her when she's since jumped ship to another guy who can "support" her better, while you spent your life thinking about all that wasted time and money on that dumb bitch.

Besides becoming financially dominated, there's no reason to get married.

As far as guys getting dressed by their wives go, it's a simple formula. The wife wants her husband to dress a certain way to keep up an illusion for her friends/family. If you're pulling all your examples from middle class families who's most important thing in life is creating more mouth breathing idiots, then yeah of course they're going to wear the cheapest most awful clothes you can think of.

They're few and far between but most couples that aren't focused on having kids, and have fulfilling careers usually are much happier with their lives

You seriously think that writers of the show think "k guys, let's have guys come in and say this one line every episode". Customer interaction are not scripted. You're a literal fucking retard if you think so.

If you actually interact with people in the real world (i know that's a rare occasion for you), you will realize that the majority of husbands today are controlled by the wife.

Well, husband works, earns money and has no time to think about sick fits. Housewife sits around allday and gies shopping. Wants her husband to look better than husbands of her friends to show off.

Yet they all end up looking like this: