Was Nixon really a bad president?

Was Nixon really a bad president?
Why is he so hated?

Besides forming the EPA, his presidency was kind of unremarkable outside of the political scandles. But even then, those are dubious

He did wonders with our relationship with China. Not to mention he got us out of vietnam

He would have been great if he hadn't been anti drug and anti gun.

One of the best American presidents, true patriot and believer

>Not to mention he got us out of vietnam
yeah, after he sabotaged LBJ's negotiations with North Vietnam

Aside from the scandals, he had a fairly reclusive personality,
which probably alienated a good number of people.
Also, his mannerisms are easy to caricature, so for most Americans, he was also a cartoon.

I would say he's probably an under-appreciated president if anything.
Kind of like himself, the changes he made were kind of quiet, though ultimately beneficial.

President Nixon ended the policy of forced assimilation of American Indians, returned some sacred lands, and became the first American President to give them the right to tribal self-determination.

From a native perspective, this president was pretty good. Before Nixon there was a good chance someone could be arrested for practicing traditional ceremonies.

He was a decent President but he was corrupt as hell. I actually like him as a President personally.

I like how he is the only president to resign from office which grants him more importance in the future.
In a thousand years, people would remember him and Washington for these ages and thats that. Otherwise he would be just like Ford or Clinton.

Getting BTFO by Kennedy in the 1960 debate probably didn't help his image even before he got elected

Because of a cartoon about farting, belching robots.

Such as...

The only two real down sides to Nixon was before withdrawing US Troops from Vietnam he expanded the bombing campaign in Vietnam and his paranoia made his judgement to seize the white house very difficult to let it go and firmly believe that he could seize the white house without doing his espionage activity.

He reestablished relations with China including the release of two CIA operatives from China whom were captured back in the Korean War.

The initial establishment for the EPA was fine but both political parties have abused its usage since.

The Nixon economy was decent, not amazing but decent.

His stance on foreign policy was anti-communist or increasing American efforts of Capitalism and Democracy (Constitutional Republic for you autists who disagree with America as being a Democracy) which at the time was a good positive in America because USSR was are hard line enemy.

He helped negotiate the peace of the Yom Kipper War but its unfortunate down side was the oil crisis in 1973.

I would say however that Nixon would be the quintessential Neo-Conservative via establishing the expansion of government and strong foreign policy and a lack of isolationism. Look up "New Federalism" to know more.

Civil Rights: He tried to go the middle ground between the largely still segregated south

Space: He defunded NASA because since America declaring victory in the space game NASA was no longer seen as a significant asset.

A decent president but if he just let the 1972 election run (To which he probably would have won anyway) as usual he may be looked at a much better modern day president maybe even looked at as a quintessential president. His fajor muck up with Watergate has become the bane of his presidency and has given ammo to the opposing party for years to come.

If it wasn't for watergate Nixon would have been considered one of the best Presidents of the 20th century

Nixon just had the extremely bad fortune to have been exposed. Literally every President would have, and still does shit as shady as watergate but Nixon was the first time It was shown for everyone to plainly see, and people above all else, hate corruption.

>Was Nixon really a bad president?

Nixon was a very good President. He won The Vietnam War, brought law and order back to the country, and stabilized the economy that Johnson had almost destroyed with his reckless spending. He made a mistake trying to stupidly cover for his people after they, even more stupidly, broke the law. Countless other Presidents have done far worse.

>Why is he so hated?

Partly, he was kind of an asshole, personality wise. But mostly, because the Left and/or Jews were in the middle of a power grab in the country and he just happened to get in the way. Without conservative media to provide balance like there is today, the Liberal Jewish media turned him into the Devil incarnate.

how did he win vietnam

He implemented a dumb strategy of escalating the war, then demanding a peace accords with the North. Despite this, General Abrams's village pacification strategy was mostly successful in eliminating the Vietcong as a threat. When the North invaded in 1972, their forces were obliterated. This, along with Soviet and Chinese pressure, forced them to the peace table. Nixon knew they couldn't be trusted, so he kept American airpower in the region, which had been instrumental in defeating the North. He was right, as fear of American airpower kept the North at bay for a time.

Then Watergate happened. The Democrat controlled Congress, bowing to their Leftist anti-war base, used Watergate as an excuse, cut funding to the South. Knowing that America wouldn't help the South now, the North rearmed and invaded. The South, without the funds to rearm and no aircover, were overrun. Hundreds of thousands were exterminated.

The Left was never anti-war. They were against America winning. And then they made that a reality. And somehow the war became an indictment of "us all". When in reality, only they are to blame. Democrats started the war out of political convenience, and then sabotaged it out of their own cultural self-hatred.

>Literally every President would have, and still does shit as shady as watergate


wow just saying something makes it so

got to try that sometime

Sounds /pol/ as hell. Sounds right but you know, conspiracy theory type you know

Nothing conspiratorial about it. Johnson escalated the war because wanted to diffuse the "soft on Communism" criticism when he would run for re-election in 1968. He didn't really want to win anything in Vietnam. His and Westmoreland's attrition strategy betrayed a complete lack of seriousness.

Cutting funding did doom the South. Leading Democrat William Fulbright (Bill Clinton's mentor) said that he felt worse about Arkansas losing a football game to Texas then the South falling to the North.

Vietnam was a terrible thing for the United States. But the actions of the Democrat Party and the Left during it were unforgivable.

Nixon kinda push the war to continue to get elected though. can't really forget that.

sure smells like a /pol/cat

Kind of. He wanted "Peace with Honor". Basically this meant pulling out of Vietnam, but only from a position of strength. So he escalated things even more, to force the North to the peace table. But all that did was piss them off even more. But it ended up being successful, in spite of itself, because it pissed them off so much that they invaded in 1972 and had their forces obliterated, thus forcing them to the peace talks. Under the radar, General Abrams was pacifying all the villages, and destroying the power of the Vietcong in the process.

The Democrats, on the other hand, just wanted to cut and run.

Who?

>/pol/ is now Veeky Forums version of JIDF

The irony.

>He won The Vietnam War
yea i'm gonna stop reading there