Let's face it, Darwin's theory of evolution is nothing more than a justification of mid-victorian social structure

let's face it, Darwin's theory of evolution is nothing more than a justification of mid-victorian social structure.
>muh animals are adaptive machines
>muh malthusianism in animal populations

Here's Engels' statement on the matter:
>The whole Darwinist teaching of the struggle for existence is simply transference from society to living nature of Hobbes' doctrine of 'bellum omnium contra omnes' [everyone against everyone else] and of the bourgeois-economic doctrine of competition toegether with Malthus' theory of population. When this conjurors' trick has been performed,... the same theories are transferred back again from organic nature into history and it is now claimed that their validity as eternal laws of human society has been proved.

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this is why I am a Catholic stalinist now

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>this is why I am a Catholic stalinist now
pretty sure stalin didn't like christianity :^)

Marx agreed pretty much with Darwin though, they even shared letters with each other.
And Catholicism isn't exactly the right sect if you want to oppose evolution, try with something form the US south.

Marx never took on Darwin directly iirc, though their theories are similar in that struggle is the driving force of history, or in Darwin's belief, natural history

its not a coincidence that Darwin formulated his insights just as harsher poor laws than ever before were being formed by Whigs (his party) in the late 1830s in the name of malthusianism population pressures. Moreover, the late 1830s to late 40s saw the rise of the Chartist labor movement that threatened bourgeois society and property of which Darwin was a part

Holy shit marxists were attacking science from the beginning

to be fair though, almost immediately after Darwin published his ideas they immediately became an ideological justification for all sorts of ideas across the political spectrum. In other words, the theory isn't necessarily as "scientific" as it is today, especially considering that Darwin's theory has undergone some modification since the 19th century

lol not an argument fagget k thanks kill yourself the pope fucks kids spread the word like he spread my asshole

To be clear, Darwin was not a scientist, and only had a degree in Theology.

We know that already, every opponent of him will bring that up.

it was literally the only degree you could get from cambridge at the time. he also really only did the degree because he wanted to follow in the steps of several famous anglican-naturalist deacons in the past. becoming a clergyman was well known as a comfy job that gave you tons of free time for one's own pursuits and it paid well. On top of that, Darwin came from an unorthodox family. His father was an open free-thinker who doubted god and his mother was a unitarian and so Darwin never bought into the trinity aspect of Christianity. Darwin's grandfather Erasmus Darwin was also a well known, if controversial, naturalist who elaborated on Lamark's theories

So you admit evolutionism is a religion.

And Mendel was a monk what is your fucking point.

The world would have been much better had he never been born.

Mendel did not manufacture two generations of atheists. And Mendel was a scientist.

What?

What does it even matter?
It's not like most modern theologians have accepted his theory.

>it was literally the only degree you could get from cambridge at the time.

This is literally false, as there has always been degrees in Applied Mathematics at Cambridge.

Evolutionism = Darwinian religion.

And no sane scientists either.

Preach it, comrade.

woops i misread this

Then almost all biologists must be insane

That group of Christians failed, hard. Paul ran around getting donations for them, because they all went broke.

Nobody told them to try socialism; they tried it and found out that it doesn't work. Just like the pilgrims did.

Evolution is a scientific theory, not a religion.

Correct. Seeing that DNA, one strand, holds 600,000 bits of information in it and saying there is nobody who coded it is quite mad.

"A bioengineer and geneticist at Harvard’s Wyss Institute have successfully stored 5.5 petabits of data — around 700 terabytes — in a single gram of DNA, smashing the previous DNA data density record by a thousand times."

They did not fail, they had God's love.

But the kingdom of God is now, friend. A classless society is possible.

>Mendel was a scientist

Mendel conducted scientific experiments. Made scientific observations. Postulated scientific theories. Published said theories in scientific media for peer review.

Just like Charles Darwin.

It's a false religion. There's nothing scientific about it at all; nobody has ever observed, tested, or repeated any macro-evolutionary change, ever.

You have to take it on faith that sufficient time (another lie) allows all micro changes to become macro changes.

It is not.

Jesus is the King, and a Monarchist of the highest order, as well as a High Priest of the highest order.

There will be people who rule and reign with Him; there will be people who serve Him; and there will be peoples subject to Him.

>Completely unlike Charles Darwin.

>It is a false religion
It is not a religion.
>You have to take it on faith
You don't. Gradual changes lead to big changes. Adding one to thirteen for a long time will get you one million.

what about the fossil record? comparative anatomy? resemblance of two species' DNA?

>muh imperial fanfic turning jesus into a roman shill

And some of Human DNA codes for functioning tails, why would that be there if we were created like this?

>Gradual changes lead to big changes.

Have you ever observed this?

All micro evolution.

The Cambrian explosion is explained perfectly by the creation of the world by God a few thousand years ago.

There is no Darwinian explanation for the sudden appearance of fully formed life all over the planet.

We are all subject to him, and none is equal to him.

Monarchists and charlatans may try to trick the people by making idols of themselves, but their falsehoods will be razed bare before the Lord. As was the fate of so many tyrants before them.

It doesn't. You just think it does.

Yes, I have observed small changes leading to big changes.

Yes. It's all there in the fossil record.

Yup.

Stalin had no qualms with religion. To him, it was a tool of control and command.

Lenin now.

Like what?

>It doesn't.
It does

Yes, from the flood. Fully formed creatures with zero transitional fossils showing one kind of animal turning into a different kind of animal.

Show me the DNA sequence for human tails.

Except the Cambrian explosion is not observed to have happened a few thousand years ago.

Just because you believe in evolution does not make you an atheist.

Which is why Humans are sometimes born with tails?
Also, quite a big part of our DNA is junk DNA, shouldn't it all be functioning if it was put there with a purpose?

Maybe, just like Creatonism can't explain the Fauna of Australia or that Sheetas show illnesses from being inbreed since thousands of years while most other animals don't- According to the flood they all should.

It is observed to all be in the same layer of dried mud that came from the Flood, that you think are gradually accruing layers of the earth's crust for some reason.

Me, becoming an adult.

It helps.

No joke though, are Marxists actually so autistic as to call eachother 'comrade' in real life? I've seen that a few times here and there, and it's akin the kind of shit you'll see at furry cons. If you people actually do that, I'm glad that you all look like pic related and will likely never reproduce.

What about the ediacaran organisms that pre-date the cambrian.

There is no junk DNA. You need to catch up with your memes. There was DNA that was thought to be junk DNA that was found to have purpose.

If you found a programmed computer, you would assume someone built the computer and programmed it.

But you find yourself, an infinitely more complex programmed computer, and you believe people who tell you that your ancestors were monkeys, and that your real ancestors were star dust.

All so that you can not be responsible to God.

Human to human.

Give me a macro change.

True.

Though it does reduce the role of God to a God-of-the Gaps.

Here's a result of it.

You just did a circular argument.
The Bible story is true because the Cambrigian explosion is false, and the explosion is false because the bible is true.

There's no evidence for a Biblical Flood. The fossil evidence, rather, indicates long gradual changes over long periods of time.

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What do you think about this?

>There is no junk DNA. You need to catch up with your memes. There was DNA that was thought to be junk DNA that was found to have purpose.
yes, it does have a purpose. but it is still "junk DNA" since it goes unused in the production of proteins

@1131287

No (You) for you

They look like bitchin' things God made at the bottom of the ocean.

I do not subscribe to your "each layer is a million years" nonsense, so to me, you cannot use this false geological column to date anything.

The bible story is true.

The cambrian explosion can be best understood by subscribing to the creation story in the bible, and not to millions of years of "evolution".

I didn't say no babies had tails; I said show me the DNA you claimed was coded for human tails.

>all the people talking about DNA in this thread
Everyone who isn't a dumbass knows that DNA is a hoax by the marble earth atheists. They made DNA up to drive people away from God, just like they made the spherical earth up.

There is junk DNA. Some DNA

There is a biochemical role for some non-coding DNA to perform, but much of it is still superfluous junk, and can be excised from the genome while the organism continues to function and reproduce, completely unaffected.

Evidence is all over the earth. Literally. Sedimentary rock is dried mud in mudslide layers.

Look up the columns formed by the explosion of Mt. St. Helen's in the 1980's. It created massive cliffs with many layers just like the grand canyon, in months. Drying mudslides.

Those layers were formed horizontally, not on top of each other gradually (which makes zero sense).

The Encode project, a scientific collaboration involving researchers from more than 30 countries, has revealed that large swathes of the human genome previously thought to be useless, and termed 'junk DNA', in fact play a crucial role in regulating the manufacture of proteins in the body. The discovery could revolutionise the understanding and treatment of hundreds of diseases.

That's the result of that DNA, how else do they get those tails?

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>scientist knows nothing about the Bible

Actually atheists tend to know a lot more about the Bible than creationists.

The Cambrian explosion happened 540,000,000 years ago.

You can use things inside the layers to date them - magnetics, fossils, etc.

DNA is just a parts list. It's not the schematics.

Bullshit. Literally impossible.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

4500 years ago.

please be a real flat earther please be a real flat earther

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Worst circular reasoning ever. A complete fraud.

Right. Like I said, some junk DNA has a purpose, even if it's non-coding.

Except what you're ignoring is that large swaths of non-coding DNA is still plain, regular, useless junk DNA.

540,000,000 years ago.

Then what else do make them to grow tales, if they lack the DNA needed to develop them?

It is not. Things you don't understand still have reasons and purposes for being. You're just ignorant of them.

What part of "crucial role" do you not understand?

Where do you faggots come from? This board's anti-science bias is incredibly frustrating sometimes.Darwin pretty much spent decades looking at birds and other animals, documenting exhaustively his findings and coming to a similar conclusion to another noted naturalist. This does not sound like the actions of someone who just invented his theory because it was socially acceptable. His ideas, whilst modified in light of new evidence, sometimes debunked and occasionally discarded over time, have generally held up. He made testable predictions that actually turned out true over time. Unlike a certain Mr Marx.

His findings met a lot of controversy at the time and were not accepted which kind of blows your retarded theory out of the water.

Because his ideas were adopted by racists, communists and fascists doesn't de-legitimise them in any way.

Maybe 4600 years ago. About the same time as the oldest known tree on earth.

Find that out, win Nobel Prize.

DNA is just a parts list. Protein machines in the cell read it and make proteins.

I missed where Darwin saw a bird turn into a fish.

45% of surveyed Christians believed that Sodom and Gomorrah were a married couple.

you got the meme of the israeli astronaut shooting the american one in space cause he realizes the earth is flat? someone pls psot

540,000,000 years ago.

I understand the crucial role.

Read the statements again. Some junk DNA has a crucial role.

That doesn't mean all DNA has a crucial role.

Oh look, it's a cocksure and passive aggessive atheist. I've never seen that before.

Literally Westboro-tier response.

Are we posting words at random now?

It's on another (more appropriate) board.

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I'll go 4648, but that's it.

this desu. if evolution, as that user says, were true... then a rock would have turned into a monkey by now rofl

So it's not fucking "junk", you autistic moron.

/rel/igion board please.