How did this book become so famous, Veeky Forums?

by his logic the eskimos would be the master race

>Entire schools of thought dedicated to explaining the west's global dominance.

>"They're all wrong. Cold weather makes you smart."

well it certainly does take a whole lot of thought to reconcile fantasy and idealism with obvious realities so I can imagine why schools of thought exist.
by the way this isn't an argument. there are also entire schools of thought based on rationally justifying god(theology) but we dismiss god irregardless.

I bought this book but still haven't read it
Mostly because of what I've read about it here
It it worth the read? What should I disregard as leftist trash?

>Lots of other hypotheses have a following, therefore you're wrong

ayyyy lmao

Just read it man... goddangit, if you base all your opinions on what Veeky Forums thinks, what kind of man does that make you? Not an independent thinker for sure. If you are so easily swayed by external opinions that you fear they might change your mind, maybe you should stop trying to learn.

Yes, disregard it as leftist trash. It is leftist trash.
Here, your time would be much more productively spent reading this book:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_10,000_Year_Explosion
You know what, maybe read them both and make up your own mind. They are basically mirror opposites in their explanations of human history so this would be an interesting endeavour.

I believe CGP Grey described it best.

you can tear apart all the small minute details that diamond provides that can generate arguments all day long, but the central point of the book, the take home message, is very solid and has yet to be refuted to a point where it's discredited, which gives the book merit and warrants discussion in academic settings.

youtube.com/watch?v=6Ny338t8pts

What the internet community's problem is when it comes to this book, is that people want Diamond to be either 100% right or 100% wrong, to which he is neither. He's on the right track, but the small details and points definitely do need reinforcing and further evidence would definitely be welcome in his arguments.

I won't be surprised if he comes out with a refined version of the book with a more complete picture with more solid evidence and supporting arguments, but the book gets the message across that it wants to tell as is.

>there where never any civilizations there in the first place
This is demonstrably false. Even a cursory glance at Google could tell you that.

Diamond is correct in stating some facts but those facts are blown out of proportion and their significance twisted to fit a wider political agenda.
The purpose of this book (to explain away racialism in history) cannot be ignored when evaluating its arguments.

Is diamond a Jew?

It's a classic case of a great and convincing solution to a historical conundrum, that is still wrong.

John Green and his ilk, desperate to dance about the fact that subsaharan africans are basically retards

>no written language
>no wheel
>no 2 story buildings
>no cloth up to recently
>civilization
You mean wandering warbands

Yes,actually. I just checked.
Never knew that before.

This. He might have forgotten that European dominance is sum of many small things, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have some things right.
He especially forgot the fact that because Europe was divided into so many small states with internal conflict, which created this "survival of the fittest" style of state evolution in Europe. Not to mention every European royal wanting to be richer and more powerful than their neighbour lead to European being more acceptible to exploiting trade and conquer, as long as there was a reward to be had.

>no cloth
I mean the rest of them are just kind of common misunderstandings but what the hell, this one is just silly.

If you're interested in learning more about the subject, try African Archaeology (Third Edition), by David. W. Phillipson or The Oxford Handbook of African Archaeology, ed. Peter Mitchell and Paul Lane

>pure coincidence

I know,its totally incidental to have a socialist jew adept at mental gymnastics.

Stereotypes have a basis in reality

No, Diamond is an ornithologist with zero understanding of or training in history, his poorly articulated ideas have long since run their course in academia, no-one accepts geographical determinism any more, least of all such an extreme case as Diamond's.

>everyone I disagree with is le /pol/ boogeyman

The Yellow, Indus, and Nile River Valleys are much more conducive to civilization than Europe

The Ancient Middle Eastern civilizations where advanced, but they where only advanced for their time when Europe was only a sapling culturally and evolutionarily.
These civilizations could be compared to Native American ones. As for modern Middle Eastern peoples a high amount of very recent inbreeding has totally demolished this gene pool which is why you see
iqs in the low 80s. As for China, China has always been a little bit ahead of Europe in its civilization and this hegemony was only recently disrupted after the Black death when Europe rose to dominance with the renaissance followed by industrialization etc.(don't need to list off) I believe this was because when half your population is wiped out in a plague it will inevitably affect the less intelligent more than the more intelligent who will take preventative measures(speaking generally). You had a reformed European civilization after this great eugenic event.

Actually although Europe was wholly barbarian in the Bronze Age, it was far from technologically backward. Ironworkng was first developed there, and in terms or metalworing and especially in weapon making, Europe was some way ahead of the rest of the world pretty much from the start.

>high amount of very recent inbreeding

Care to elaborate? I was not aware of such a thing

Texas put it into the curriculum and it became popular by default.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_in_the_Middle_East
Iraq used to be pretty civilized before major inbreeding.

Mohammed (piss be upon him) has a lot to answer for.

>intelligence doesn't evolve
>except when it comes to jews

Isnt a cousin far enough in the bloodline to avoid any genetic consequences?

Not at all.
Maybe a second or third one, but definitely not a first one

Yes but when its done on such a wide scale (in some countries like 80% marry first cousins) then the consequences are exacerbated beyond measure.

One cousin, maybe. But when it's actually PREFERRED to marry cousins, over hundreds of generations, the damage builds up. They have twice the infant mortality rates of non-muslims, even when born and raised in teh West as with British Pakistanis, and as much as a 10 point iq deficit, on average, compared with Indians.

For example 33% of all birth defects in Britain on the NHS are from inbred pakistani babies even though they are a small fraction of the population. Most of these Pakistanis are marrying first cousins, most of these first cousins are children of first cousin marriages, you see this big genetic mess?

It's a fascinating social study, but it really has nothing at all to do with Muhammad himself. Instead it's a mix of reasons ranging from Umayyad-era Arabization attempts by non-Arabs, Islamic inheritance laws that originated with nomadic traditions which gave daughters a share and the implications of that in more patriarchal settled, agricultural traditions, and the destruction of Middle Eastern urbanization beginning in the 11th century and carrying on in periodic bursts of plague and nomadic invasion well into the 19th century.

First cousin marriage and incest in general predates Islam and the Medieval Arabs of course. It's just that the tradition was very limited to North Arabia, small pockets of Syria-Lebanon, and the Persian aristocracy until the above events I just mentioned.

No this is very much on him. Arabs had incest taboos much like us, but Mo had a crush on his cousin and "luckily" for him, God told him that marrying your cousin is a-ok.

The author is Jewish and so his kinsmen in the media memed him to fame.

No, because he'd have to be a time traveler to somehow also change pre-Islamic Arab tradition where parallel cousin marriages were already a thing, most likely diffused into the region through Jewish tribes.

God also told him that fucking 9 year olds is a-ok.