When will the obsession with this man end?

Nazism is in a lot of ways the ultimate transgression of modernity (Zygmunt Bauman). Nazism was centered around him. Since Western historiography still tries to conceptualize modernity and how it works and changes Hitler is like the antithesis to efforts to do that. He symbolizes hypermodernity and barbarism at the same time.

I still think you are exaggerating.

>implying both are not epiphenomena of decolonization, globalization and modernization
The 1980s just called, they want their thesis back m8.

>Not being interested in Hitler's dog
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondi

Modern period is industrialization to today. Stop using words you saw other people correctly like some kind of cargo cult

World war 2 was the last conflict of major powers in modern history. Villianizing hitler and educating yourself about fascism seems like a step in the right direction.

Nazi germany is such and interesting topic because it demonstrates what people are capable of when they're desparate enough. World war 2 and the holocaust strengthened a global community and created co-operation between countries.

Hitler was very good at building a cult personality about himself, and people are still interested in him today, even if the view in negative

One of Blondi's descendants sold on auction for 100,000£

Nah. Christians don't like fanfic. I'm gonna guess it's either napoleon, caesar, or Alexander.

How the hell does a funny little guy with a moustache have so much impact? I mean. People still are fascinated by him.

He's a big dog

>People still are fascinated by him

99.99999999 percent of them are /pol/cats

For you.

>Modern period is industrialization to today
Yeah except de-industrialization is happening in the most advanced countries
>Stop using words you saw other people correctly like some kind of cargo cult
what does that even mean?

...

You forgot this one

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathography_of_Adolf_Hitler

He was good for a few years and then turned to shit?

The regime he's a face of legitimately could have conquered the world. Coupled with the mass purges of groups who undermined his narrative, being the first in a long time to threaten the presence of Jews in the public arena, also did a number for this reputation.

Historically (and curremtly) germanic people have led Europe Culturally and militarily more than any other ethnic group, and for them to almost take over the world with technology and man power unheard of before that time is quite something.

He was a pretty big cuck

Never since he's the greatest human in history.

fuck off to /pol/

sorry but no, cuck.

I blame the History Channel
>Coming 16 September: Hitler's Janitors. Hear the stories of the men who cleaned up after the most hated man of Europe in this 12 part series.

>The regime he's a face of legitimately could have conquered the world.
except that he took on three major powers at the same time, each of which could produce tanks, ammunition, etc at a faster rate than Germany and that the Soviets had so many more soldiers than Germany that they could sustain heavy casualties without so much as a dent being put in their army, and that Germany was severely strained on its oil supply

He kind of is.
He rose from a innkeeper's son to the most powerful man in Europe, and now everywhere, from california to tokyo everybody knows who he is

What happened in the 60s?

since when does losing a war = cuck?
do you know what cuck mean?

Exactly, yes.

Go back to pol!
You aren't ready for adult discussion!

Oh my god.

He's right though.

dumb question. how did even get that data before google was even founded?

Not at all

>you aren't ready for discussion!
>he screams while simultaneously repeating "go back to /pol/!"

Oh, the irony.

Never

Regardless of your stance towards him, you can't deny the effects that his political carrer had on his country and it's people.

And how it shaped the present as well.

Not the most famous man of all time, but he certainly impact the 20th (and to an extent 21st century).

I'm surprised Napoleon isn't on that list

He didn't listen to his generals. He should have allocated more troops to Rommel so he could take North Africa, then have his troops in Russia sweep down from Russia and through the Middle East securing oil supplies. Then put all of the remaining troops in Russia on the defensive and focused production on aircraft and U-boats to disrupt supplies from the U.S.

one of the cases in which the myth is bigger than the man himself

he wasn't one in a million like napoleon, just a guy that happened to be in the right place at the right time and wasn't that bad at manipulating the braindead masses

but his ultimate goal and being almost able to reach it is what brings most attention to his persona, but in the end he was a regular joe fueled by hate

if he didn't kill all the jews he did and those he wanted to, he would just be another pol pot/mao zedong or any similar B+ dictator
if he was more competent he could have conquered europe but instead his legacy became mostly known for his infamous killings

needless to say that since the jews control hollywood and other propaganda tools worldwide, hitler became the personification of all evil

so yeah, he wasn't great at all and he's not recognized for his victories on the battlefield or his being a political genius - just for putting a lot of people in ovens n shit

yahoo

>He didn't listen to his generals.
and sometimes it worked really well, see the fall of france
>He should have allocated more troops to Rommel so he could take North Africa,
the forces present in north africa were already at a breaking point supply wise, the ports and transports were bursting at the seams
further reinforcements would only deteriorate the already terrible supply situation
>then have his troops in Russia sweep down from Russia and through the Middle East securing oil supplies.
with, like, magic?
> Then put all of the remaining troops in Russia on the defensive and focused production on aircraft and U-boats to disrupt supplies from the U.S.
so you would weaken the critical eastern front even further?

>The regime he's a face of legitimately could have conquered the world.
huehuehue

First pre-war generation starts asking about what happened in Germany and writes and reads a lot a book about fascism.

Don't even respond to him.

It was impossible. No university in the world could afford scan that many books.

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as long as it continues to benefit the jew. (aka forever)

How come Hitler and Stalin doesn't start at 0% in 1900?

What caused the decline in books about Stalin at the end of WW1?

hitler is easy, probably several people with the same name and/or data sources like censuses
but stalin is strange, given it's a nickname

Why don't you look it up yourself?
a) The OCR scanning obviously has a error margin.
b) The book have too i.e. the guy who punched the data in entered "1891" instead of "1991"
c) "Stälin" is the name of a place and some people from there: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Friedrich_von_Stälin

Yeah, so how do you explain the n-gram chart? Did the Jews suddenly lose power during the early 70s?

>>Adolf Hitler's 50th birthday

The man gave 13 million Reichmarks to every man woman and child in the Reich on HIS brithday. What a bro.

A cuck would have been him jerking off while watching Germany bend over and take communist cock from the Soviets at the start of his dictatorship. It literally took the major world powers 6 years to get into Germany and even then it was a bloody fight until the very bitter end.

Russiaboo, fuck off, and if you're a Polishboo like I suspect you are, you're by far more cucked then Germany was.

>Centuries as a pretender state
>Finally get your country back out of pity and ulterior motives from other countries
>Spend 20 years governing yourself, and the next 50 controlled by foreign dictators

reported to merkel for racism 2bh

It's Eurocentrism. We've been hammered with learning about him our whole lives.

I wasn't even the user you were replying to, I was just pointing out your retarded hypocrisy.

>some cuck was so buttblasted he wasted X amount of his life just to write that

Hitler was the greatest demagogue of the 20th century, even today his speeches are mesmerising.

I'll think you'll fund his generals didn't listen to him & went on prussian glory hunting campains.
By 1944 he had enough of covering their asses.
He was told barbarosa would be over before the winter

When the next big guy comes around.

>Implying that he didn't just steal Guderian's plan for invading France and pass it off as his own.

>cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck
go back to your containment board.

Fucking this

But I thought Manstein had designed that plan?

>says the fag from a board that shouts /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ at everything they don't like.

It was Manstein's plans. Guderian's claim to fame was developing the doctrine of which was used to carry it out.

literal fag/jew detected

> hitler is evil

When will this meme die? When will history and media become less partial?

Pretty cool to see Augustus leading the pack like that. Some of those dudes haven't been dead a century and interest is already waning, but only Jesus truly BTFOs the first Caesar.

Really digging those trips man

>Sexuality of Adolf Hitler
was expecting some scholarly discussion about whether or not he was gay, instead found The Pink Swastika by Scott Lively

> Hitlers Outtakes ...

youtu.be/_LmhXqF1l0I

The losers are always evil and sadly Hitler was a loser. I already consider Hitler part of history and in a sense could've became a great conqueror but fell short. Taking on the whole world at once was a bad move I suppose.

>Hitler mustache

I recently read an article about this guy, arrested for having a toothbrush mustache while in possession of an illegal AK in his woodshed.
However he wasn't charged with illegal gun ownership, instead the mustache pushed it to white supremacist terrorism, so now he has to pay half a million dollars bail.

>i-it took f-five of you to kill me!!!
>that means i actually won!!!!

Cuck.

Related question: Was WW2 the climax of human history thus far?

Absolutely not. The climax according to me is when the arab invasions into Europe were stopped by the Byzantines and Bulgarians on the Balkan peninsula, and by whatever-France-was-at-the-time on the Iberian peninsula.

>arab invasions into Europe were stopped by the Byzantines and Bulgarians on the Balkan peninsula
This happened? As far as I was aware the early Arabs managed to lay siege to Constantinople a few times, but never managed to actually get into the Balkans

Arabs told the Bulgarians they will pay them in money and land if they help beat the Byzantines, then didn't pay. So the Bulgarians attacked them during the siege, and with a Byzantine assault at the same time broke it.

This was huge, it practically stopped muslim expansion on that vector.

I see, but that's not really "stopping the Arab invasions of Europe," that's more akin to "preventing them from happening in the first place."

What did he mean by this?

The Bulgarians didn't have a navy. They fought the Arabs on the European side of the Dardanelles, somewhere in modern European Turkey.
So technically the Arabs were already in Europe and they were chased off by Byzantine navy destroying their supply ships, the very long and cold winter that year, and Bulgarian armies harassing them and delivering one big defeat in the only large scale battle fought.

Ah, that makes sense. Quick question: How did the Arabs even get to the Balkans without the Byzantines stopping them before they got there?

The Arabs had a bigger and stronger navy. Basically for about 30-40 years before the war the Arabs were building ships, while the Byzantines were expanding walls and granaries. They were in an arms race, both expecting a siege of Constantinople.
The wildcards were another muslim civil war (which didn't end up happening) and the Bulgarians.
What did happen however was a Byzantine civil war of sorts. The Byzantine navy was sent on some recon mission, I don't recall exactly, and there they rebelled and mutinied, and wanted to make one of their captains the new emperor. They did a soft siege of Constantinople themselves, just the navy, and they managed to place their puppet as emperor.
One of the Byzantine generals, Leo, was in opposition of this, and to ensure the civil war the Arabs supported him. Basically while the Arabs were taking Asian cities and islands, their puppet Leo took Constantinople, and decided he doesn't want to be their puppet anymore.

As you can see at the end of this, the Arabs had lost some money by supporting Leo, while the Byzantines effectively had their chief navy guy and their chief army guy fighting on who will be emperor, after the actual emperor was removed. The army guy won, the navy guy lost, and the Byzantines lost naval supremacy, if they even had one at the time.

Honestly, if the Arabs would just pay to the Bulgarians they could've made them muslims easily, they were pagans and unorganized religions very easily are replaced by organized ones, with huge rich temples, and deep lore and knowledgeable mystics. They decided to be cheap, and got fucked. This to me is the moment in history where a lot was decided, because if the East fell to the Arabs then, when they were on the rise, and if the Balkan Bulgarians joined islam, as the Volga Bulgarians did, we could've very easily had a full on Europe-Persia-Northern Africa caliphate, and from there there is no limit.

God damn man, this is way more information than I asked, but thanks so much anyway!

Serious suggestion here, have you considered becoming a contributor to *ahem* /r/AskHistorians? You seem to know your shit about this time period in history, and I'm sure they'd appreciate your input.

>/r/AskHistorians

I did register an account, and for about two weeks made long posts, trying to debate with people.
I was bullied into quitting, by people down voting my posts due to perceived political incorrectness.
I actually had personal messages sent to insult me for my comparison of Alexander the Great and Shaka Zulu, resulting in a conclusion that the latter wasn't at all innovative and is vastly overrated.
At the same time I had people calling me a liar and insulting and downvoting me for recognizing a Soviet propaganda picture in /r/HistoryPorn, where the original poster claimed it was from France if I recall correctly.
I deleted my Reddit account after that, there are no good history communities on the internet that I can join, all the ones who are open enough to accept me are also open enough to accept people I don't want to talk to.

I should've mentioned, on the topic of naval supremacy, that things did change when a large portion of Arab vessels and their crews deserted and joined the Byzantines some time into the siege.

At that point in time, navies weren't heavily composed of dedicated warships, they were drafted from merchants and fishermen.
Some of the Arab navy was drafted from Egypt, and there were many Christians in there, who were heavily taxed for their faith.
As the battle on land went the way of the Bulgarians, the Egyptian fishermen and traders switched side and joined the Byzantines.
That is when the Byzantines could fight at sea, and could stop the Arab army from being resupplied after the very long and harsh winter spent outside the city walls.

>and sometimes it worked really well, see the fall of france
>2000+16
>believing the Blitzkrieg myth