Is it acceptable for someone with no Norse heritage to identify as a nose pagan?

Which is why most people should identify as Germanic or Celtic Pagan instead of Snownigger religion. It's more pure and traditional.

No it's not

Also note: Christianity in Europe is heavily influenced by Pagan ideas and customs because our ancestors never fully gave them up. Might as well just ditch the Jew God.

Nobody is going to stop you. You'll be right at home with other members of the KKK and Nazi party.

If you need an English translation of the Edda then you will just get something watered down. Much is lost in translation. Give it up.

Because the most loud and obnoxious ones are those who seem to know little of it. It's not supposed to be a proselytizing religion at all.

>no Norse heritage
>identify as Norse pagan
Really?

I wouldn't give a shit because "real" Norse pagans died out hundreds of hears ago (and many of which converted to Christianity anyway) but the sad fact in my experience is that "Norse pagan' is just a nicer way of saying "neo-Nazi."

As an Italian, I worship Wotan like my ancestors did.

>not being an Etruscan reconstructionist

reeeee

I thought you had to be Protestant to be in the KKK?

KKK has always been Christian you fucking retard.

Im not Tuscan, silly.

This. Christianity without the Old Testament would be just perfect.

Germanic = snownigger

t. Marcion

Uh, it's forestnigger you ignoramus.

I don't think the norse pagans ever had specific dogma on whether or not outsiders or mixed bloods could worship the gods. Maybe they'd be confused? Why not worship your own gods?

That said today real norse paganism is basically dead and what survives isn't much better than LARPing. We have some myths and historical accounts of how germanic tribes behaved but nothing solid, and a lot of that is coming from christian sources.

What gods would someone worship if they are only part Germanic and part Celtic? All of them?
Only a few? Wouldn't the religions contradict each other?

Help.

People could have personalized pantheons to an extent because paganism was never rigid but since the culture surrounding all of those gods is dead and gone you shouldn't worship pagan gods at all you homo

Yes, if you want to.

>>religious liberty upsets me
Cry more.

The real question is why would you? If you want to be Pagan, why not honor the Gods of your nation and forebears? Isn't that the point of Paganism, to come in contact with one's roots?

Who's this guy? Was he Japanese ambassador to Germany or something?

>>since the culture surrounding all of those gods is dead and gone
Was dead, and is now being revived.

>>you shouldn't worship pagan gods at all you homo
Why? Because you say so?

Oh?

And what should I worship?

>Was dead, and is now being revived.
You can't bring back the cultural and environmental circumstances that spawned those folk beliefs it is D E A D my man. There are no worshipers or priests left. The only thing you could do is create a facsimile borrowing from the scattered preserves, like Wicca. At least they don't pretend they are trvefolk or whatever.

I don't know. Something not retarded.

This is a huge debate in modern Norse paganism (or Asatru, whatever you want to call it). One camp (folkish) believes only those of Norse descent can be Asatruar, while the other camp believes anyone can. The former group is the one which contains the Neo-Nazis, unsurprisingly, but there are folkish Asatruar who oppose racism as well.

The religions of the Celts, Germaics, as well as Romans, Greeks, Slavs and Indo-Iranians had a common origin. It doesn't matter which ones you worship.

Taranis the Celtic Jupiter.

>The name is continued in Irish as Tuireann, and is likely connected Norse Thor, Anglo-Saxon Þunor, German Donar

why would anybody even care?
it's so fucking stupid

Why do you have to identify as something? Do you want to worship the pagan gods because you actually believe in them, or do you just want to "fit in" or "be apart of a group"

>>You can't bring back the cultural and environmental circumstances that spawned those folk beliefs
You don't need any of this to revive the religion.

>>it is D E A D my man.
The mere existence of modern re-constructionist movements proves you wrong.

There are no worshipers or priests left.
But there are modern worshipers and priests of these deities so this is also wrong.

>>I don't know. Something not retarded.
All theistic religion is equally retarded from my perspective, I see no reason that people shouldn't be allowed to worship these deities.

>>buh its not like it was thousands of years ago!
No religion is like it was thousands of years ago.

Well you enjoy storming the forest of Minnesota, Bloodaxe. Don't forget your Thor's hammer pendant.

As I full blooded Norsefag(Norwegian) I see nothing wrong with you having some (or all) of our gods. Heck if a Englishman can pray to the Jewish god then surely whatever you are can pray to the norse ones. Don't let these niggerfags tell you what gods you can and cannot have.

That is famous Japanese engineer Hiroshima Nagasaki who invented the Showa method of pest control.
I'm sure you heard something about this in history class.

I don't actually believe this stuff. I just see no reason to mock and insult the people who do merely for having those beliefs. Pic related is how I feel about other people having various religious beliefs.

Forgot the pic, derp.

Memes.

No, unless you get to fully adopt norse culture, since it's a cultural/ethnic religion like most polytheistical faiths.

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>Showa method of pest control
lol

Cathars pls go

He was identified with Zeus/Jupiter? Thor/Donar were identified with Herakles/Hercules.

>Showa method of pest control
Aaand this is why I come to 4 chan.

Apparently Asatru is officially recognised in Spain kek.

By whom? The Romans identified him with Jupiter. Modern scholars with

>similar deities found in other Indo-European pantheons. Of these, Old Norse Þórr, Anglo-Saxon Þunor, Old High German Donar—all from Proto-Germanic *þunraz (earlier *þunaraz)—and the Hittite theonym Tarhun (see Teshub) contain a comparable *torun- element. The Thracian deity names Zbel-thurdos, Zbel-Thiurdos also contain this element (Thracian thurd(a), "push, crash down"). The name of the Sami thunder god Horagalles derives from Thor's.[6][7]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taranis

I meant by classic sources which are normally greeks and/or romans. The opinion of scholars is always interesting and often more reliable, of course.

looks like a qt

would form a bond by Wodin

That doesn't even make sense. You could make a decent case for Asatru being throughout Scandinavia, Germany, Netherlands, and bits of France and maybe Poland. But not Spain. Even before Christianity came there, they were Celts and that's a totally different culture and belief system.

I think that's the priestess. I googled a bit and this two are the wedding couple. I like that the father, while obviously out of place and probably asking himself what the fuck is going on, is smiling and happy in this photo.

Hey ese, we were visigoths and shit

They apparently justify it with goths, vandals and suebians. Don't ask me how since those were all christian when they arrived to the peninsula, I don't feel like reading their mental gymnastics.

Apparently the community was founded long time ago by spaniards but with the help of a significant danish pagan pioneer. Which kind of explains it a little.

Nobody in spain says ese in that mexican context.

I'll go as far as saying that not even mexicans do it and it's an eternal anglo meme. But you never know with mexicans.

>suebians
Actually, pretty sure these guys weren't christian at first and only gradually converted after moving into iberia.

Even then, the Visigoths and Vandals were EXTREME minority. It'd be like some Scot speaking French all the time because of the Norman Rule. It's unlikely most of the populace has a drop of the blood, and even if they do it's only a trace amount.

Make up your pantheistic faith from scratch. Don't ape an extinct one we barely no anything about beyond mythology. Reconstructions of European paganism are like being very familiar with, say Shendao, Shinto or Hinduism and trying to set up a Christian Church or a Jewish Synagogue because you've read a Children's Story Bible that covers snippets of well known biblical stories and provides very basic exegesis. You don't get Judaism or Christianity, you get syncretic nonsense that is neither the authentic myth or ritual. Plus if you believe in many gods, create a new cosmology. Sure it's a parody but Pastafarianism is far more authentic a religion than neckbeard hailing Baldr in a birchwood park.

A reconstructed religion is like a heck cattle, they look similar, but they aren't the same as the extinct thing. It can't be revived, but a new religion can be made from what we know about the old religion.

There is a significant number of Norse religion in Iceland, they built a temple there.

Greek religion is coming back in Greece too.
youtube.com/watch?v=SBpNu4_TP9w

I think its neat.

Or just make Meme Magic a religion. Yeah there's all the Kek of Egypt crap but considering we don't even know if Egyptians pronounced it as "Kek" (/pol/'s constant spouting of Cuck could be invoking the frog since it's just as likely the name was pronounced like that) it might as well be a completley new Frog deity and it's not like Frogs haven't had spiritual or divine status in other cultures before.

Make a truly new faith, because if Meme Magic was a full fledged religion it'd be far more legitimate than Wicca or any other neopaganism.

Pagan religions are pretty ridiculous by themselves so it's just one step more, to be honest. Also normans don't play any kind of role in scottish nationalism, while visigoths heavily do in spanish one.

Want a personal opinion? The actual native religion of Spain is not celtic, norse or any kind of paganism. It's catholicism because it's the religion that actually shaped Spain when the Catholic Kings married. The rest is nationalist rant. I'm not even catholic, by the way.

Complete with temple prostitutes, live animal sacrifice and oracles in sulphuric caves tripping out?

What would the practitioners of this religion be called?

This is far more interesting than reconstruction imo. Reconstructionist "purists" treat the
Eddas like a Protestant treats the bible, as if ancient Pagans gave one shit about the written word and not the living tradition. In my opinion any modern religion that calls itself Germanic has to incorporate Goethe and Hölderlin as inspired skalds.

Meme Masters (shortened memesters).

>nose pagan

Oh and Wagner. Definitely Wagner.

Meme Master would be synonymous with Pope or Dalai Lama though and would be the high priests and spiritual leaders. Going of demonyms of Catholicism, Plebs could be the basic churchgoesrs, Memesters the basic priests and deacons, Autists for those akin to monks and nuns who devote their every moment to memeing about shit, Patricians for the Bishop-like roles and Meme Master as the highest rank like the Papacy.

Does this mean that performing Meme Magic is akin to prayer and meditation?

frogposters

Pleb is a demeaning word that should a word for infidels. Our base should be above the ignorant sinners and have, at least, a neutral denomination like Anons or Robots.

I propose plebs and normies for infidels and patrician for the faithful. Amongst a group of patricians, the Memester is the leader of a local community. Those memesters are coordinated by several Meme Masters with regional authority. Being a polytheistic faith that is just starting, we don't need more needless separations.

That works better. And we could totally do this, meme as it is.

I even made a thread for creating a real Meme Magic religion.
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Pretty much all polytheistic religions are syncretic. You can probably worship Odin considering your ancestors probably worshipped his doppleganger, Wotan.

Paganism is so lame. When you hear a thunder outside do you actually think it's Thor hitting on his anvil? At least Christians believe that God created the universe with natural laws and nature acts on her own.

I don't think lame means what you think it means.

>Saying 'Pagan' like that identifies a specific set of beliefs

Stop this shit.

The Germans and Celts share a religion, its called Christianity.

Cuck-a-doodle-doo

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Atheist actually

Thanks for playing

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lol

Cuck

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You enjoy watching your wife have sex with other men

Preferably a strong, african, brother in Christ

Is it acceptable for someone with no Iranian heritage to identify as a Zoroastrian or Mithradist?

I don't understand why they dress up as people from the time period 9th/10th century. It's not like that was a religious dress. That's just LARPing

why would a person with no semitic heritage worship a jew

>nose pagan

it isn't acceptable for anyone to identify as a norse pagan. fucking larpers.

Were ancient Middle Eastern polytheists these "nose Pagans?"

It doesn't make sense (in fact, it's almost a fucking paradox), but I don't see why not. Is there a reason that someone attracted to ancestor worship and/or the beliefs of their ancestors would chose to eschew their own heritage in favor of another that they have no connection to? It's like a English Catholic converting to Confucianism.

But this is the issue! Why would you venerate someone else's ancestors?! Are you ashamed of your heritage?