So why aren't pygmies regarded as a separate species of hominid?

So why aren't pygmies regarded as a separate species of hominid?

Because we can breed with them.

have you tried?

we bred with neanderthals.

No but we obviously can.

Neanderthals are 99% similar to us, not unlike apes and chimpanzees.

When will they learn?

You are stepping into a very delicate subject

And we regard neanderthals, apes and chimpanzees as different species than homo sapiens. We bred with neanderthals, though. That's what non-sub saharan people are, neanderthal/sapien crossbreed descendants. We also regard zebras as different species than donkeys, but they can breed and occasionally produce fertile crossbreeds. The ability to reproduce doesn't seem to be a requirement for discerning species.

I mean like, if you saw a big white cat living in the siberian wilderness, and a little black cat living in the indian jungle, and they had at least 30k years of genetic exclusivity, I don't think we'd consider them the same species.

Then we should regard people without Neanderthal with them as not human. What makes Pygmies different from other Central Africans?

That's why we're having a conversation bout it on a Mongolian folk dancing board and not a university

There's a whole lot more than outward physical appearance that decides species. Look at domestic dogs, for example. Different breeds can vary incredibly concerning size, shape, colour, behavior, etc. Yet, domestic dogs are all the same species, canis lupus. In fact, domestic dogs are even narrower than that - all their variety is contained in a single subspecies - canis lupus familiaris.

Species tend to be decided more on things like the number and type of chromosomes than pure physical appearance.

I feel like if the pygmies or aboriginals died out, we would consider them a hominid species based on their remains. As a species we can't really seem to talk about this is any positive light.

>No but we obviously can.

but have you tried?

>No but we obviously can.
have you tried tho?

Who /pure/ homosapien here?

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Same. I believe that in 1000 years we'll have researchers looking back and acknowledging them as a subspecies that was bred out of existence.

I wish this kind of stuff could be talked about in the open purely in the interest of scientific study when there may be a limited opportunity to do so. People can't seem to talk about different groups of humans having differences without their pride or feelings getting in the way.

>And we regard neanderthals as different species than homo sapiens
Debatable

>The ability to reproduce doesn't seem to be a requirement for discerning species.
It is the most common one but it's not foolproof

they are daily raped by the other ethnic tribes around them, treated as slaves.

Both by literal genocide and crossbreeding they are on extinction, tho they are too dumb to even defend themselves.

>You will never see the rise of a negro pigmy spartan nation in the heart of africa

It's funny they are literally denied citizenship in the nations they inhabit.

Do you want to talk about it openly? Okay. You're a fucking idiot if you actually think that's an aboriginals skull. Holy shit...

We can produce fertile offspring

We dream

We tell stories

We have spirituality

We are men

t. Twa

But it is an Aboriginal skull.

Here's an aboriginal skull.

>The man it inhabited lived An anthropologic paradox very recently (in paleo-terms), likely in the 1800s or later. It is in perfect condition and shows no signs of antiquity. The skull was discovered or obtained around 1905 near the lower Darling River in New South Wales, Australia. Beyond that, all we are able to determine is that it is said to be a large adult 50 year old male from the Pintubi tribe…

>The subject skull, modern in age, yet archaic in structure is a relevant example and deserves the following brief description.
Even if a pathological oddity it would demand attention but an anthropologist at the University of Michigan assures us that this is not the case and that this specimen isn’t that unusual.