Why is Africa so undeveloped?

Why is Africa so undeveloped?

inb4 muh colonialism

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muh colonialism

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>the truth has to conform to my world view
Colonialism

Low IQ.

libera was never colonised and it is still a shithole

see >

are you pretending to be stupid?

>Liberia is a country in West Africa which was founded, established, colonized, and controlled by citizens of the United States and ex-Caribbean slaves as a colony for former African

Isolated area, hard to anthropize yet still bountiful land means less development.

>judging a non-western entity by western standards and asking why it doesn't hold up

Libera was funded by ex american slaves you retard

...

It's literally a product of colonization

Nigger colonialism.

it's almost as if humans were some kind of 'consuming' creatures and they leave behind their trash after using up all that's good.
well, except Turkey/Greece for some reason, nostalgia perhaps?

Colonialism
Lack of arable land
Lack of contact to the Mediterranean (cradle of civilization) because of the fucking Sahara

no good resources, shitty landscape
wild animals everywhere
south africa is pretty developed though

everyone that said

>south africa is pretty developed though
No, it isn't.

>Greenland gets the same score as Denmark

it is

No, it's not

>they were living in mudhuts and hunting rhinos before the white man came
No, they weren't, at least not all of them
However the major issue with colonialism is that the Europeans destroyed the pre-existing social structures of Africa and replaced it with direct colonial rule when they then left in the late 20th century the colonial powers didn't allow the Africans to form their own states but simply replaced the colonial officals with locals keeping up a "quasi-colonial" system that simply doesn't work out if you're not ruled over

>people starving because they're literally too stupid to farm
>oh they're not a failure you're just a racist

Africa is undeveloped because of africans.

They are stupid, disorganised, corrupt, have a massive sense of entitlement, scape goat the whites for everything, have a tribal mentality, and are highly prone to commit crime.

T. Someone who has lived in South Africa all his life.

watch Empires of Dust

Tsetse fly

>people starving because they're literally too stupid to farm
Zimbabwe is one country in Africa user

The slaves grew up surrounded by Anglo-American culture, spoke English, and wore Western clothing.

So?

Zimbabwe was turned from the breadbasket of Africa into an absolute shithole, no other country has fucked up that much

I'm saying that it's one unique example when compared to the entire African continent.

Ethiopia for example had one of the worst famines in modern history because of a decade long drought, not because they forgot how to farm.

Colonialism is not about the white man settling in Africa, that is not bad in an of it itself. It is colonial powers interfering with politics, and destroying the political process of the people, making development near impossible. Every time Africans would find a ruler that cared about the people, he was assassinated and replaced by a murdering dictator who would sell cheap contracts to France.

Also this.

Liberia is a shit hole because the US funded a coup against the Americo-Liberians in favor of an anti-commie government.

They had there chance once the last of the colonists left. Instead of taking charge they let everything go to shit.

They don't have guns germs or steel read a book you plebs.

>They had there chance once the last of the colonists left
The people who were left in charge after the colonial nations left had no experience in running a modern nation. They were by and large military men who were drafted into Weatern armies, and thus knew only how to manage a war economy and little else. Think Warlord Era China where you had different idealoges fighting for dominance in the power vacuum left behind. It was a recipe for disaster that few African nations had managed to escape.

Material conditions, caused by a legacy of colonialsm capitalism, and imperialism, which brought the African region into the modern world without attempting to develop it from its primitive roots.

>Africans are too stupid to farm

It's not that at all. It's simply that the economies of many African states depend on the exports of cash crops. While they could lessen hunger by switching to mass wheat farms, this would plummet African economies which might even make things worse. Of course, African governments could their economies self-reliant. This would only lead to their leaders ending up like Patrice Lumumba, however.

Therefore, Africans do have choice in what's going on yet it would be stupid to deny that there isn't a neocolonial influence in their choices.

Why so much denial? It is literally colonialism through and through.

Africa was pretty developed in both Ancient and Medieval times, but went to shit because it was the first target of Europeans and remained under them the longest time.

why so much excuses?
lots of countries were colonized too; and arent as shit as the african ones.

>africa was pretty developed in medieval times. KEKED most of the sub saharan didnt even had a written language

literally every contry in the "new world" was a colony

Colonialism wasn't everywhere the same

Deserts, Jungles, shit land, shit diseases, shit trade connections (compared to eurasia), lack of abundant domesticated animals, shit government systems (lack of ideas spreading there caused this), and finally they got screwed over late in the game as they tore each other apart for slave trading.

excuses, excuses. Japan was literally nuked not long ago and its better of than these africans. They always blame the past for theire failures

Neither did the Incas or Mongolians, but there's a reason for this in West and Southern Africa.

Everything was passed down orally via Griots, who were storytellers, historians, and accountants all rolled into one. They held a lot of power and prestige, which meant that any attempts at a written language in West Africa were stifled by them. Kind of like how the Ottoman Imams banned the printing press on the grounds that it would take language away from the hands of the Preist caste.

And all but a handful are shit.

Niggers

Are you retarded?

Japan kept its emperor, industry, and societal structure. The only African countries that had the same privileges are landlocked, barren shitholes like Swaziland.

But all of them are better than the african ones;

and japan had 2 generations of modernizing, a modern economy, infrastructure and a highly educated population.
Africans had mud huts.

Asia and South America were also colonized and aren't nearly as hellish as Africa. I wonder if it had anything to do with race. Compare say Dominican republic and haiti.

Because the ruling class is still mostly European educated and came from families that were experiences in running the country.

Africa had none of that, all the Post-colonial rulers were Military Wingnuts who had no idea what the fuck they were doing and honestly didn't care about the country and its people.

Read some Easterly, faggot

No one wants an actual answer, they wont accept anything more nuanced than "lol niggers". Sage and move on

GGS has a lot of flaws but they had unsuitable clay for rewarding traits since they had no winters

Shitty genetics.

>falling for guns germs steel meme

Top kek

Read a book that isn't just pophist faggot

Adopting the worst form of development due to outside influence for years and listening to imf and wb.

Now it's on track but the best years for developing are passed so not much support from the U.S

Dominican Republic is total ass that only looks okay because it's near Haiti.

It's still a big shithole.

Tswana were able to keep their political and social structure because it helped a fuckton in its independence since the brits had no use for Botswana as it had nothing of interest and diamonds only became big after it was discovered post independence and the diamond industry making diamonds a hot commodity through ad campaigns for cosmetic diamonds.

Zimbabwe and the rest of southern Africa is experiencing massive droughts though.

Like the past few years cllimate change really fucked up the weather and the extremes are getting worse.

>cherrypicks a photo of a nice part
>cherrypicks a photo of a shitty part as a rebuttal

This is why arguments on Veeky Forums will always be fucking garbage. Go read a real book about African history, people--don't rely on this place to actually teach you anything, especially not a subject that's going to bring the /pol/sters out of the woodwork.

>Tfw Peruvian

So glad I was blessed with god-tier genetics.

what did you expect from an IMAGEboard.

Its poor on natural resources.

Yeah now go compare GDP per capita and hdi and get back to me.

Yeah Dr is less shit but it's still a shithole.

Slave trade raided and exported human capital from midcontinent

Tropical diseases

Colonialism more brutal and more recent than in New World

Decolonization was hasty mess

Resources exploited with little/no reinvestment by West, USSR, now China

Just because the colonizers were black doesn't mean it doesn't count.

Ethiopia was only a colony for 5 years, had a proper state beforehand and is still one of the poorest countries one earth. The problem with blaming colonialism for the lack of proper states ( I.e liberal democracies) was that beforehand they didn't have proper states and didn't seem to be in the process of developing them ( Fulani jihads are my example here). The worst part about colonialism was probably the fact that the local elites confused it entirely with capitalism leading them to chose silly socialist policies ( e.g Tanzania, Ethiopia, Zimbabwe etc). This contributed to preventing growth. Look at Ethiopia, it currently has a growth rate of circa 8% due to catching up from years of silly policies/war/famine and a (relatively) good government which is investing in education, infrastructure and agriculture within a capitalist system. It still suffers from some regulations preventing the poor from starting businesses/opening bank accounts/accessing telecoms but it has made great strides in recent years. Most of Africa was under colonial rule or two generations.

This map has nothing to do with genetics

Because dindus literally can't do nuffin on their own

Africa is rich as fuck in natural resources, are you retarded?

Rubber, oil, gold, ivory, gemstones, rare metals...

>that beforehand they didn't have proper states and didn't seem to be in the process of developing them ( Fulani jihads are my example here).

Based on the area.
Many had political entities, states and many had the desire to modernize or conduct further contact with the rest.

It was neither due to colonialism or /pol/'s "theory".

It was due to lack of security after independence, new technology leading to arms proliferation and cold war proxy wars. Even if a country achieved peace it suffered from political instability and repressive corrupt regimes.

True but back then the rare earth's of was no use until discoveries later on.

Many of these resources have a flaw to them and in many cases a curse. Oil is unstable, ivory is a no no cost to extract and minimal benefits for some of them.

The real answer is colonialism.

OVERPOPULATED AND WERE FORMERLY KEKED TO DEATH

LETTING INFRASTRUCURE DECAY AND KICKING WHITES OUT + SUBVERTING SOFT, CIVILIZED COLONIAL CULTURE + CAUSING MASS DEATH IS TURNING THINGS IN RIGHT DIRECTION! GOOD JOB MUGABE!

Lol you can't ignore Colonialism.
That's like ignoring the cause of ww2 and saying it was Hitler having a hate bones for Jews

>lack of security after independence, new technology leading to arms proliferation and cold war proxy wars
That was all caused by decolonization meaning you can't just exempt colonialism

>All Africa is Zimbabwe.

Nice caps brah.

ALSO HAPPENING ELSEWHERE

REALIGNMENT TO TRIBAL DIVISIONS LIKE IN SUDAN, ONGOING EXTERMINATION OF WHITES IN SOUTH AFRICA PLUS HOSTILITY AGAINST BANTUS, WHATEVER THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN CONGO THIS WEEK ETC. ETC.

THE ONLY PLACE DEVELOPING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION IS NIGERIA, AND THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE THE ETERNAL ANGLO NEVER REALLY LOOSENED HIS GRIP!

ALSO NOTE THAT I AM IN NO WAY BEING SARCASTIC OR IRONIC, I LOATHE SUCH RHETORICAL FLAIRS, I TRULY THINK MR. MUGABE IS A WONDERFUL LEADER, APART FROM WHEN HE BEGGED WHITES FOR HELP INSTEAD OF STAYING THE COURSE!

Jesus Christmas Superstar it's the all caps autist.

What's the incentive to develop if their resources (used to) let them live a comfortable life without agriculture/civilization?

home.iitk.ac.in/~amman/soc474/Resources/sahlins_original_affluent.html

MASSIVE POPULATION DUE TO WESTERN MEDICINE, AID, AGRICULTURE. NOT GOOD! BE LIKE MUGABE!
WHY ARE NORMIES ALWAYS SO BUTTHURT WHEN CONFRONTED WITH CORRECT OPINIONS

Decolonization would have been a total wreck no matter what if it happen later by 10,20 or 50 years.

But Africa had agriculture though idiot and pretty big development.Very few peoples were hunter gatheres in Africa and the ones that did were btfo by their agriculturalist neighbors and there was civilizations and kingdoms and empires.

we have a winner

>Lack of arable land
opposite, they have too much if anything and have it too easy. Soil is super rich, you just throw seeds on the ground and they grow super fast.
>no good resources, shitty landscape
>wild animals everywhere
>south africa is pretty developed though
everything you said is wrong
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>everyone else
>it's someone else fault. (white man)
You realize how dumb you sound?

>Extract Political Institution

t. Why nations fail

>Soil is super rich, you just throw seeds on the ground and they grow super fast.

Wtf? Do you even know what you are talking about.

>Every time Africans would find a ruler that cared about the people
this is naive, Africans are perfectly capable of exploiting other Africans without being prompted

if you want catharsis against evil racists on /pol/, why not adopt facts and logic and prove you are more intelligent?

>Soil is super rich, you just throw seeds on the ground and they grow super fast.
Nah it's pretty shit

What he said happened in a lot if nations though desu. But bad governance is a common issue.

facts have a racist bias

You're the one bringing up racism here

Do you have same or similar map for US/Americas?

The soil is so leeches of nutrients and there's little natural replenishments of it like other parts of the world do and fertilizers are super expensive since you need a fuckton of it to get more then substinance yields and the pollution that comes with using certain fertilizers.