So for a little while now I've been trying to understand Nick Land's philosophy and I think I have a good outline of it, can someone confirm or deny what what I think I've got?
So basically in Land's view modern history starts when capital is let loose on civilization and supersedes traditional society. Modern history is then defined by a struggle between capital and culture to gain dominance. The apparatus preventing capital from gaining traction is the Human Security System which is synonymous with Moldbug's Cathedral. The Cathedral attempts to create equality through various means and models such as social democracy and thereby hinder the advance of capital which strives on difference as well as human desire. In Land's view the effort of the Cathedral is futile as human equality violates the laws of GNON and those attempting it will be punished by nature. The triumph of capital will mark the end of history in a Hegelian sense with an inevitable technocommercial singularity whereby capital will discard its human hosts by means of self-automation. This will create a breakthrough in intelligence because it is no longer constrained by human monkey brains. So in Land's view we should not resist the forces of capital but instead embrace it and propel its growth through accelerationism by means of open markets and splintering sovereignty into collections of city states a la Singapore.
The point is that capital most of the times, by it's very nature,supersedes culture/political organization.
This is not a new point of course, Land stole it directly from Anti-Oedipus and Baudrillard made a somewhat similar point.
Robert Campbell
+neoreaction
Landon Murphy
Gnon is a pretty useful concept, do you even knew what it is?
Angel Jackson
It's basically Land mimicking Veeky Forums memes.
It's stupid because it's empty and devoid of content like all memes. The Land of today is a shadow of his former self, worst of all, he is an "optimist".
Henry White
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Anthony Howard
Nick Land is a Marxist accelerationist who hopes that enough disruption of society by capital will hasten the communist revolution who pretends to be a right-wing philosopher because rightists are stupid enough to fall for this shit.
He isn't original in this regard either. Milton Friedman was another crypto-communism who pretended to "embrace" capitalism in order to plant the seeds of the revolution within it.
Cooper Sullivan
So was every significant neoconservative
Aiden Brown
This is incorrect.
Noah White
Exactly.
The only thing that changed was that when they were communists, they were Trotskyists who wanted to use the Red Army to promote world revolution (and enslave humanity to the Jew). When they became "conservatives", they promoted the use of the U.S. Army to promote world democracy (and enslave humanity to the Jew).
Seriously, if there is Jews in your right-wing political movement, you are doing something wrong. There were no Jews in the Freikorps. Neoreaction was founded by a Jew so it can't be good for the goyim. The ultimate desire of the Jew is enslavement of goyim to their desires, the only difference between a religious Jew and a secular Jew is that the religious Jew waits for the Messiah, while the secular Jew takes matter in his own hands.
Lincoln Nguyen
>He fell for the "edgy exclusive kids club that is Nrx".
I will admit, I love the guy, because he is truly original, but Moldbug was a negative influence on him, things like HBD and conservative social planning, they are laughable concepts in today's society. People will just beg for a technocracy and be done with it, they will not ask for a kind, but more production and more effective bureaucracy.
In a very ironic way Land is like all of those Deleuzian anarchists, but on the other side. They can see where the whole thing is going, but mistake the forest for the trees in terms of the state of the political economy.
Parker Martinez
This sounds like a view of history from someone that never learned history.
Adrian Diaz
>things like HBD and conservative social planning, they are laughable concepts in today's society Opinion discarded. Also Land was always right-wing. Ccru was created to research left wing philosophy from a non-left wing perspective
Jeremiah Barnes
>continental philosophy
Joseph Lopez
things like "left" or "right" or meaningless if you understood what CCRU was all about. All of the "Cathedral stuff came after with Moldbug, I am somewhat sympathetic with them because they indeed do point to the dogmatic liberal slumber of today, but ultimately they are a right-libertarian wet dream fantasy.
Alexander Sanchez
I don't even like Land, you just didn't make an argument.
Nathaniel Ward
Why do they call themselves neoreactionaries when they're about as different from reactionaries as is possible?
Luis Watson
>The only thing that changed was that when they were communists, they were Trotskyists who wanted to use the Red Army to promote world revolution (and enslave humanity to the Jew). When they became "conservatives", they promoted the use of the U.S. Army to promote world democracy (and enslave humanity to the Jew). >Seriously, if there is Jews in your right-wing political movement, you are doing something wrong. There were no Jews in the Freikorps. Neoreaction was founded by a Jew so it can't be good for the goyim. The ultimate desire of the Jew is enslavement of goyim to their desires, the only difference between a religious Jew and a secular Jew is that the religious Jew waits for the Messiah, while the secular Jew takes matter in his own hands.
Ayden Nguyen
Nick Land is pretty different but not all of them are. They also didn't coin the term, someone else did and it just stuck.
Blake Peterson
The idea that base supersedes superstructure came from Marx.
Adrian Sanchez
I have no idea but as a classical reactionary it pisses me off people assume I'm one of those sperglords. The only thing they miss is an Ayn Rand t-shirt and a fedora, they're not reactionaries whatsoever.
Joseph Reed
I just went to check out this guys blog and it makes him appear like a rambling nut more than anything else.
Is the interest in this guy just due to Veeky Forums's general contrarianism or am I missing something here?
John Smith
His notoriety predates the chans
Camden Bell
You clearly haven't read any neoreactionaries. I was already into reactionary literature before I read Moldbug & friends and I still got a lot out of it.
Andrew Howard
I did give Moldbug a chance, but his writing is pretty convoluted and stylistically shitty, not even mentioning the substance is based on rationalism and therefore shouldn't be called reactionary.
Nolan Lopez
Is this real life? This sounds like a sci fi novel, not philosophy.
Brody Jenkins
Gonna need sauce on that
Noah Wood
I don't really agree with the other post's characterization of Land, but marxist accelerationist isn't a totally bad way to put it. Land is a marxist in the tradition of deleuze and guattari in that he shares a lot of their critiques of modern society, he just goes a lot further and thinks that the way to solve those problems is through freeing/acceleration capitalism.
Unfortunately, I do think he's sincere about all the NRx shit which is a shame, his pre-Moldbug writing is really interesting.
Camden Cooper
HBD IS FOR KEKOLDS
WEAK MEN, MOSTLY WORKING IN SOFTWARE AND WED TO SLANT-EYED OVERTLY NEOTENOUS GIRLS. SAD!
Parker Perez
Nick Land is what you get when you give an autistic science fiction fan a shitload of acid and a philosophy professorship.
Hunter Gomez
I just went to his site. Why do people think he's not right-wing when he's reading AmRen and posting shit like this? xenosystems.net/quote-note-252/
He's clapping about right-wing movements growing.
Matthew Foster
Who said he's not right wing? The only people rants would say that are paranoid tad/pol/es that claim he's a left wing infltrator but as always those people should be ignored.
Jack Peterson
Probably because the only alternative was "Dark Enlightenment" and they didn't want to announce they were JRPG villains.
Christian Stewart
Veeky Forums is seriously triggered by this guy. It's amazing that as soon as a good non-Marxist is discussed they go "MEME MEME MEME!!!"
Robert Howard
Eh, I've seen some good discussions of Land on Veeky Forums, though these people you describe do exist.
Jack Garcia
also every person who has posited materialist interpretations of history e.g. Marx, Harris
Cameron Russell
i'm not going to argue against open markets, but advanced culture cannot develop without sufficient capital. as capitol increases culture flourishes. i'm not keen on "history is a struggle between [x] and [y]" philosophies.
Jacob Richardson
mind the spelling, i'm on the toilet. where all philosophy should be done.
Xavier James
How about history as the interaction between humans and nature, and we're fucking up the balance?
Brandon Bell
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Jaxson Adams
Fuck the haters. Nick's got a lot of interesting things to say and Gnon is a certified dank meme.
>We should open markets to accelerate capital technological advancement >Capital is the problem though, because traditional society and culture was better before it came along
Should literally stop calling himself any kind of reactionary. He's literally an ultra-progressive.
Parker Thomas
No, he's more a sort of apocalyptic reactionary, who wants to 'cleanse' society by letting it destroy itself.
Jordan Roberts
Which is literally delusional and has no bearing on reality.
Xavier Bailey
Nor is it very new. It's basically the same End Times prophecy re imagined for the 21st century. I won't be surprise if one day an entire religion called Nicktianity
