Can we all agree on this?

Can we all agree on this?

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Tsipras and American presidents are wrong desu

>Assad
>bad
>Merkel
>hit-miss tier
Move her up a tier.

>more slander about Nero

Alexander III one tier lower
Put Nicholas I to his previous place

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Buchanan needs to be in disaster tier.

Tojo did nothing wrong. If anything he was a willing fall guy.

Mussolini should have his own tier. Really, it's just pathetic how he acted like he was some kind of grand roman emperor but failed to beat Greece and got BTFOd by the outnumbered British in north Africa and from here got propped up by his actually competent nazi ally. Pic is where he went from there.

Hoxha did nothing wrong.

Change Obongo to Hilary or Trump (either of them works) and this is correct.

>Merkel
>not "Destroyed their country-tier"
And where is Napoleon I.?

Take out the ones from the last 25 years, then maybe.

Mugabe and pol pot deserve an entire section of their own. Erdogan and Merkel are cancer, but they have sustained their countries so eh.
Also
>Tojo dindu nuffin wrong

Callaghan should be paired up with Heath.

>chirac
>henry I
you'll have to explain that one famalam

also, napoopan III did loads of good things, he should be hit or miss.

also put petain in disaster tier

>Alcibiades
>destroyed Athens
>t. Nicias

You aren't trying to trigger me with this bullshit, are you?

Merkel needs to be way higher. Also, a lot of these rulers either had a major flaw/mistake that screwed them over or didn't mess up their country that much. Kind of a flawed methodology, but the list still works.
Just because you have a boner for Assad doesn't mean he didn't absolutely destroy his country by instigating a civil war and giving ISIS a power vacuum to exploit. There are so many Assad fanboys on /pol/ and Veeky Forums, yrt they're misguided and ignorant of the facts. Syria's economy is non existent and it will tske decades rip rebuild and recovery, if the country ever does. All because Assad decided to shoot protestors instead of making reforms.

>Alcibiades
>Destroyer of Athens
2/10 bait

Gorbachev should be Disaster tier
Stalin should be fucked up tier
Nehru should be fucked up tier, Indri should be Disaster tier.
Enver Pasha should be destroyed tier.
Empress Dowager Cixi should be fucked up tier

Include Wilson and put him in fucked up tirer

>Selim II in the list
Are you fucking retarded or something?

Great chart, but you made some spelling errors. Rudolf II's title should be ">Holy >Roman >Emperor"

>Felipe IV
>Not Carlos IV
>Not Fernando VII
>Not Franco
Come on.

>Dilma Roussef
no

put this guy into his own tier

>All because Assad decided to shoot protestors instead of making reforms.
What fucking reform?

>Dilma Roussef
"yes"

>Trump
where do you think you are?

I haven't heard anyone ever think Cixi did something good

certainly not /pol/ as you probably think

Mao doesn't belong there.
Gorbachev LITERALLY destroyed his country so idk why he's not in that tier.
Castro is hit or miss and same with Lenin.

>disaster tier
>tsipras
I mean he hasn't done anything positive but at this point the prime minister of Greece is just a symbolic role, it's an eu colony

Put Assad in hit-miss, merkel at top and remove Napoleon III.

As far as I know, incompetence is also a characteristic of shitty leaders.

I think it's meant that he is in that tier because destroying his country was a good thing.

>Be Mussolini
>Be socialist fag
>Fight in a war of nations
>Your country gets fucked over in negotiations
>See the revolution in Russia
>Realize that Italy will be like Russia
>Bring together people to prevent this
>March on Rome and get power from the king
crisis averted.jpg
>Modernize Italy and remove Bolsheviks
>Remember Italy getting fucked over
>Declare war and take over a African kingdom
>Britain and France at the League of Nations bitch about it
>Tell them to fuck off
MakeItalyGreatAgain.png
>Germany sees this
>Germany tries the same and starts worshipping you
>Tell them to fuck off
>Germans kill your friend in Austria
>Can't turn towards GB or France
>Reluctantly ally with the Germans
>Germany immediately crashes Europe in global conflict

Why Wilhelm is disaster if he destroyed his country?

> Alexander III
He wasn't that bad to be on par with guys like Ivan IV or fucking Ceausescu or Mussolini

>harbor dissidents and bring weapons to muh peaceful protests
>WHY R THEY SHOOTING US
>ALLAH AKHBAR DOWN WITH THE REGIME
are you a refugee by any chance

Except for Tojo, and Obama, that list is spot on.

>Tojo, was just a fall guy for the Emperor of Japan.

>Obama, had the miss fortune to be elected with a Congress that wanted to do every thing in there power to make him look like a lazy ass. With some wanting to go as far as to to destroy the country itself and point the finger at him.

There's a reason no other government in the region had this happen.

Even fucking Al-Maliki and Khamenei weren't dumb enough to escalate the situation.

Alcibiades was absolutely based, so no I don't agree.

>Zuma
>Il-Sung
>Mugabe
>Pol Pot
>Saddam
>Assad
>not based
"muh western civilization" nu male cuck spotted

Oh, also the Ayatollah was a based man.

>Mugabe
Cuckold white male detected.

The eternal kraut will not rest until all great european peoples are destroyed, and only they and their bog people brethren remain.

Mugabe should inspire you, the only thing he did wrong was beg for aid like a cuck.

>calls people cucks
>hates his own civilization and is exhilarated when other cultures attack it

>people who fought for their own people and threw off the chains of judeo-masonic effeminate western matriarchy are somehow my enemies
hmm...

>I hate my society so much I literally make up problems so I have an excuse to be a failure

Of course you should hate western modernity, it is a foreign, weak culture imposed by deeply embedded foreign agents through guile and propagated by their neolithic farmer slave race (anglos and """"germans"""")

No
Why?
It's retarded and so are you.

How did Saddam fuck up Iraq? I was going to argue against his inclusion until I realised I know nothing about the period directly before him. Was it better or worse?

He missed a chance to create an actual economy and fought several retarded wars

But Mao nor Mugabe haven't destroyed their countries. If Mussolini didn't destroy his country he came damned close

>Mugabe should inspire you, the only thing he did wrong was beg for aid like a cuck.
To ruin my country? Please kill yourself cuckold. You fucking retarded cuck.

Stalin wasn't a good guy, but he didn't fuck up the Soviet Union. He increased industrial efficiency by 133% in just one year.

Jimmy Carter should be in hit-or-miss if it isn't going to include Reagan. Reagan was much worse imho. George Bush didn't fuck up our country as well.

Nero should be in disaster tier.
Lenin should be in Hit-Or-Miss.
Gorbachev should be in Fucked up Country.
Castro should be in hit or miss.
Duvalier should be in Disaster tier.
Tokugawa should be in hit or miss.

>Assad started the war

> by 133%
Wasn't that hard because it was basically from the zero. But, yeah, Stalin wasn't destroyed his states or something like that. Just killed many people for basically nothing. I believe he could do the same if used less bloody means.

The reason why Germany atepped in to back Italy in North Africa in WW2 was because they were getting their asses handed to them by the ETERNAL ANGLOS and Hitler, politics, etc.

Hitler really liked Mussolini.

I agree for the most part, although one could debate that at least some of those killed were truly counter revolutionary and posed a legitimate danger to the Soviet Union. However, I don't think that he should be on that list because he improved the USSR into a more modern state. Despite the bloodshed. Mao and Hitler just plain fucked up and also killed a lot of people. Stalin was the only one who actually improved his country.

>nappy III
So this was made by someone who knows absolutely nothing about history?

Gaddafi, Putin, Gorbachev and Erdogan need to move up a tier or two

>this reddit tier understanding of world leaders
nah

Where are Woodrow Wilson and FDR? Both of them should be in Disaster-tier.

Added a couple o' guys

>There's a reason no other government in the region had this happen.
The same reason that most of those governments don't exist anymore. Given what happened in Libya, I'd rather be on Putin's good side than Obama's.

No, that's trollbait tier.

This chart is some bullshit trick to loophole the 25 year rule by mixing modern rulers with historical ones. Inevitably there will be 30-40 posts about ancient leaders mixed with 150-200 posts about /pol/ bullshit.

Fix the "Everyone here sucks" to "Everyone here is based" and then it'll be good

Pre-WW2 Mussolini, and Fascist Italy for that matter, was actually good.

You're right.

Look at all those middle eastern governments that didn't do what Assad did, and turned into failed states.

>OH WAIT

Erodgan did nothing wrong, he shouldn't even be in this picture. Why the hate for this guy? He is based.

The funny thing about Mussolini is that earlier on he was actually pretty wary of Hitler and sought to ally with Engelbert Dollfuss, he fascist leader of Austria, as a check to Hitler's power. Once Hitler took over Austria I guess he decided he had no choice but to align with the strongman. The Italians were pretty disastrous during WW2 though.

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Look at all those leaders that were deposed, morelike.

This. If it hadn't been for WWII and his unfortunate involvement in it, he would probably be seen as an overall good leader and benevolent dictator.

Maybe, but that one mistake totally fucked up what he done before.

Go ahead and name a Middle Eastern leader other then Assad who was deposed during the Arab spring.

I'll wait.

>Castro
>Not disaster tier
Come on, that guy can be compared with Ceaucescu in terms of putting his country on lag

>Franco
Hi Jordifag, keep scrambling amongst your silly excepcionalism
t. not even spaniard

>Franco
>good

Syria being destroyed would never have happened if the rebels/jihadis weren't given massive amounts of weapons and supplies from other countries. Assad isn't perfect but its hardly his fault.

Mubarack
Zine El Abidine Ben Ali

>supports the murders of Catholic priests and people who follow the faith
Anti-Franco fags everyone

Ferdinand Marcos on at least the fucked-up tier

>this list

add Wladislaw III in destroyed their country tier.

this

Yuan Shikai should be in disaster tier

Yuan Shikai should be at the very least in "fucked up" tier.

The Warlord Era was almost entirely on Shikai's fuck ups.

Proclaming himself Emperor was an unbelievable bad move.

How dare you criticizes pot pot. All he did was kill filthy revisionists and bourgeois. The bloodshed was necessary to preserve the revolution. He would have lead the world revolution if he didn't piss of Vietnam. HE IS A GREAT MAN. Cambodia was never better under his rule and all his faults are fabrications of the west. FUCKING REVSIONIST I HATE YOU SOOOOO MUCH.

Way too harsh on Nicholas II in my opinion.

I hate this "Merkel destroyed unser Vaterland" meme

Merkel's been a generally good leader, the refugee crisis has been slowing down and the only reason it ever got so out of hand was no one but the fucking Swedes wanting to do anything but let them all drown in the Med and she prevented Germany from getting caught in the mess of the 2008 financial crisis.

Cologne New Year's Eve

agreed, report this shit, sage all replies

>Alcibiades
>bad

>mugabe hasnt destroyed his country
"There is nothing left to steal"

>Veeky Forums

unbelievable

Heard of a movement called the Arab Spring? Democracy and human rights-like not getting castrated by the Mukhabarat when you dissent.

I will recognize this happened, but the brutal crackdown only exacerbated the situation that much worse. These armed elements wouldn't have gotten so much support if Assad had made concessions early in the protests. Islamist pretty much derailed protests from the start, but Assad fucked it all up with his heavy-handed response. Also, what do you mean by dissidents? Terrorists or just "activists" with ideas that run counter to the Ba'ath regime?

>Lol, le smug anime face will show him
The non-islamist protesters didn't start to arm themselves until events like this happened:
mobile.nytimes.com/2011/03/26/world/middleeast/26syria.html

t. triggered Assadfags

Alexander III wasn't that bad.

Andronikos II came to power in a country that was a shadow of what it was, can't blame him per se.

Pavelic... what did he fuck up exactly?
He was Croatia's first leader in 1000 years. He killed lots of Serbs and was a German puppet, but most Croats don't see him as bad.

Hoxha... lmao there was nothing to destroy

Tokugawa united Japan. You should have put Hideyoshi for his Korean meme campaign, or Oda "burn everything" Nobunaga.

Francis II/I was ok. The >H >R >E was a meme, he was lucky Napoleon destroyed it.