Was he autistic?
Was he autistic?
Gavin Edwards
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Christian Nguyen
No, he was severely constipated.
Connor Adams
when luther called for the reformation of the Catholic Church when he saw the corruption and abuse of indulgences, he was right, and the fact that they tried to kill him doesnt help their case.
If nothing else, I believe he got more people to read the Word than had ever done so prior to his revolt against the Roman Catholic Church. More people getting the Word is good. I support anyone who questions the religious status quo; ask questions, get answers, study the Word... when done with an open heart to God can only be a good thing.
Cameron Cox
>he's right
Ahuh, so that means in his thinking, that the Anabaptist in Muenster were correct, because there interpretation of God must be correct too according to protestants.
James Hill
Explain
The first clear attitude to emerge on the relation between Scripture, tradition and the church was the coincidence view: that the teaching of the church, Scripture and tradition coincide. Apostolic tradition is authoritative but does not differ in content from the Scriptures. The teaching of the church is likewise authoritative but is only the proclamation of the apostolic message found in Scripture and tradition. The classical embodiment of the coincidence view is found in the writings of Irenaeus and Tertullian.
These both reject the Gnostic claims to a secret tradition supplementing Scripture. Apostolic tradition does not add to Scripture but is evidence of how it is correctly to be interpreted. This tradition is found in those churches which were founded by the apostles, who taught men whose successors teach today. These apostolic churches agree as to the content of the Christian message, in marked contrast to the variations among the heretics. It is important to note that it is the church which is the custodian of Scripture and tradition and which has the authentic apostolic message. There was no question of appealing to Scripture or tradition against the church. This is partly because the apostolic tradition was found in the church but not just for this reason: the Holy Spirit preserves the church from error and leads her into the truth. The real concern of Irenaeus and Tertullian was not with the relation between Scripture and tradition but with the identity of ecclesiastical with apostolic teaching. Any exposition of their teaching on Scripture and tradition which fails to show this is to that extent defective. (A.N.S. Lane, “Scripture, Tradition and Church: An Historical Survey”, Vox Evangelica, Volume IX – 1975, pp. 39, 40 –
Adrian Johnson
Luther condemned the Anabapists and their ilk while he was still alive.
He just wanted to disseminate the teachings to average people and stop shit like The Catholic Church using their interpretations to their advantage.
It's unfortunate that Muenster went so wild with it but it was an outlier.
Robert Gutierrez
>More people getting the Word is good.
Ryan Parker
>It's unfortunate that Muenster went so wild with it but it was an outlier.
This is the problem. It's decentralized that you fucking get outliers.
Kevin Scott
>"When you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe." (1 Thess. 2:13)
The Apostles directed people to the words of God.
Lincoln Miller
And that includes Tradition to get them there like it or not.
Sola Scriptura doesn't allow this
Henry Reed
Paul says NOTHING about Roman Catholic Tradition. No Apostle did. No Scripture does.
Zachary Hill
He was the greatest man to ever live and brought peace and order to Europe and indeed the wordl.
Luke Stewart
Don't fucking lie.
Adam Wood
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Hudson Bailey
This isn't about Catholic tradition or whatnot.
This concerns the fact that one of Protestantism's core doctrine aka Sola Scriptura is not to be found in the earliest stages of Christianity and in the Apostles themselves.
This serves to decimate Protestantism's legitimacy.
No Church Father is a Sola Scripturist, so is Paul and all the Apostles.
In fact, biblical scholarship shows Paul to actually be in contradiction with Protestant thought where in his thought, works is in fact needed for Salvation.
Ryder Anderson
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By contrast, many recent studies of the Greek word pistis have concluded that its primary and most common meaning was faithfulness, meaning firm commitment in an interpersonal relationship.[14][15][16][17] As such, the word could be almost synonymous with "obedience" when the people in the relationship held different status levels (e.g. a slave being faithful to his master). Far from being equivalent to "lack of human effort", the word seems to imply and require human effort. The interpretation of Paul's writings that we need to "faithfully" obey God's commands is quite different from one which sees him saying that we need to have "faith" that he will do everything for us. This is also argued to explain why James was adamant that "faith without works is dead" and that "a man is saved by works, and not by faith alone", while also saying that to merely believe places one on the same level as the demons (see James 2). The "new" perspective argues that James was concerned with those who were trying to reduce faith to an intellectual subscription without any intent to follow God or Jesus, and that Paul always intended "faith" to mean a full submission to God.
Jack White
The Catholic Church and it's made up traditions didn't even exist yet. Plus we now have the complete, infallible canon which takes precedence over any tradition that anyone else comes up with.
Bentley Anderson
I can't.
Robert Jones
This is bs especially when the whole canon of Scripture had to be debated and solidified throughout the centuries to come.
Sola Scriptura presupposes that Scripture as a whole magically fell down from the sky instead of having to arise from Tradition which would made much more sense, especially when in the 1st century, the only Scripture Christians would've known is the Old Testament.
So no, too bad there goes Sola Scriptura out of the window and the legitimacy of Protestantism.
Asher Cook
>we now have the complete, infallible canon
but user, the Catholic Church decided the canon. So you accept Catholic tradition when it gives you Scripture but not when it gives you liturgy and defines doctrine? Makes no sense
Carson Moore
But you just did.
Daniel Bennett
Protestants explain where is the Penal Substitutionary Atonement?
The precise way in which an expiatory sacrifice was thought to ―work‖ is never clarified. It has been maintained by some that an element of substitution was always understood and that the sacrificial victim was thought of as enduring the (divine) punishment for the sin committed, thus enabling the sinner to go free. Such a model has of course exerted considerable influence on popular Christian piety as an interpretation of Jesus‘ atoning death. This probably reads too much into the rationale of the sacrificial system. It is in fact very unlikely that the sacrificial victim was ever thought of as a substitute in this way. Such a rationale might lie behind the ceremony of the Day of Atonement, when the priest laid hands on one of the goats, thereby transferring the sins to the goat (Lev 16:21). However, this goat was not sacrificed: the goat on whom the sins were ―laid‖ was the scapegoat which was driven away into the desert, and it was the other goat which was offered in sacrifice. In fact it was considered vitally important that the sacrificial victim should be pure (see Young 1979: 52). Thus it is unlikely that the sacrificial system was ever conceived of in such a substitutionary sense.-Atonement in the NT, Anchor Bible Dictionary pg 815
Zachary Williams
>Catholics choose to deny Scripture
This is why Catholicism is wrong.
Luis Kelly
Show me a Church Father who into Sola Scriptura...oh wait there's none!
Noah Phillips
It doesn't deny scripture you fucking mong.
Isaac Rogers
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