So the mods deleted the last thread for some reason. Let's try this again then

So the mods deleted the last thread for some reason. Let's try this again then.

Were Russians retarded in their implementation of Communism or is Communism a lost cause after all?

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Not so much as retarded as much as Stalin being a insane bastard

There is nothing except the implementation that Communist states have done.

The promise of Marxian Socialism is what the Bolsheviks wanted with the October Revolution.

We all know what happened after the Civil War, famine and the untimely death of Lenin.

Counterfactuals are of no use.

So, no, they weren't "retarded ".

Communism is a permanent element of Western Philosophy.

It has fundamentally changed the way that economics is viewed and implemented.

It remains a political force, no matter it's variant or popularity.

Democracy, rule by the demos, is crucial to Socialism.
Without it, we just get more authoritarian rule.

Yes, my comrades, there is hope for the future.

because "communism" is impossible and equal distribution of power/wealth never occurred in any socialist or communist state.

Not really, only Marxists view it that way.

Communism means slavery to Marxist thought.

I value my own thoughts independence than having a dollar extra or equality.

After 1918 Russia began to behave more like a totalitarian state. As a result there was famine, mass incarceration, and a degradation of the humanities and sciences.

Go read Solzhenitsyn OP.

I don't think the Russian people got to implement communism much, especially after Stalin just kind of took over and changed everything and murdered anyone who might disagree.

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Communism isn't a system that can be implemented because of its key component, people.

Shitpost.

>using models that were created by """""""""""reason""""""""" instead of empirical data

it was doomed from the start tbqh

>Marxism
>Not an a posteriori method of analysis.

You're thinking of the Austrian school, m8.

Fuck off porky. Empiricism is a deep-mid capitalist meme. Numbers are intrinsically flawed due to their association with ideology.

Marxism is a posteriori as in Marx pulled it out of his posterior.

Don't see another reason it has failed in all 26 nations it has been attempted in then.

The thing is that's not true.

The writings of Marx are perfectly consistent with contemporary understandings of economics, as well as simply being correct in their a posteriori judgements.

It didn't, it was a roaring success.

Getting mad?

Getting /b/?

>completely destroyed Czechoslovak economy and made people poor literally overnight
>success

>Destroyed the czechoslovak economy and made people literally poor overnight.
Nah, you're thinking of capitalism.

>inb4 MAH GEE DEE PEE.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uprising_in_Plzeň_(1953)

I don't think getting millions killed is a roaring success

Brilliant, a massive strike that got violent but non-lethal.

Not like that ever happens in capitalist countries.

literally in what metric, human suffering?

>I can't read

The strike isn't the point, the currency reform is.

what did i just read

Eh. Communism might work if the state had access to an Super Intelligent AI that interfaced with all the robot factories and robot workers to supply the people with goods and services.

To be fair, if Capitalism keeps pushing for automation then either society will have to implement technocratic communism or put all the unemployed people in camps and sterilize them.

>People starving to death counts as killing them
Guess that means capitalism is the biggest mass murderer in history then.

I don't think bullet to the head qualifies as starvation.

Am I advocating for capitalism now? Don't put words in my mouth, I am a socialist.

We just need to ban technology and create artificial scarcity, honestly.

Kay.

Every kiss begins with it.

Communism probably would have worked in white nations like France or Germany. The reason if keeps failing is because it keeps on getting implemented in low iq societies like Slavs and Africans.

I don't think bullets to the head ever make up the majority of the claimed death tolls.

Aside from Balkan retards, Slavs have IQ pretty much identical with other Europeans.

Once the failed soviet system became a model for all future communist revolutions, If only it had been rosa to lead to example.

I'm not surprised there's a direct correlation between Orthodoxy and low-IQ's after seeing this board.

wew its almost like poorer countries have lower IQs because of lack of funding of education. Maybe it doesn't have anything to do with race after all.

>Czech republic is poorer than Germany
>Still has a higher IQ.

Orthodoxy confirmed for dumb fucks.

>lack of funding of education

Communists actually had great education and achieved better literacy rates than even western nations. It can't be that.

>Expecting a perfect linear correlation

You obviously didn't do too well in your statistics class, did you?

>Germany

But it WAS implemented in Germany and the only think it achieved was making them poorer.

Let's compare ethnically similar people:

Finland - rich
Estonia - poor

South Korea - rich
North Korea - poor

Western Germany - rich
Eastern Germany - poor

It's communism, not race.

>Literally every Orthodox country is dumber than a neighbouring Catholic country
I was just using an example, but this is indefinsible

>Slavs and Africans
And Asians.

Do Asians have low IQs, user?

>Communism thread goes into Orthodox hate general
Are militant Catholics really this bitter Veeky Forums doesn't like them as much?

The Communist are gone now. States with educated populations went to shit because of the change in economic systems. Just look at what happened in Albania.

you ever talk to a lot of asian people?
that azns r super smart thing is a facebook meme, there's plenty of dumb asians.

No.

I'm bitter Turks didn't wipe out the entire church hundreds of years ago.

For the first couple decades after the korean war the North Koreans really were more developed than the South Koreans. This isn't surprising, economic development in the third world during the cold war was driving largely by tributes paid by either the states or the USSR to ensure that they didn't flip sides, and the USSR paid out more than the states did in this particular instance.
As for Germany, there was no way in hell Stalin was gonna let em get rich, he made of point of plundering any machinery still usable during the invasion and occupation of Germany, that they went to being one of the most productive countries in the soviet union from basically zero is a testament to their economic prowess.

*twirls antennae*

Communism has been a lost cause since the beginning of Leninism. Now Leninists are the majority of communists and it will lead the entire ideology into the gutter.

Communism has been a lost cause since the beginning of Marxism. Now Marxists are the majority of communists and it will lead the entire ideology into the gutter.
ftfy

Lenin was just as insane

>guys lets kill people to put fear in peoples hearts!!
>lol there is no food so lets steal it from already starving peasants

Communism is fucked