Is HR a good field to go into...

Is HR a good field to go into? I was considering getting a masters degree in HR but I don't know if it'd be worth it or if I'd like it.

Other than the starting question, my main ones are:
>should one become a HR generalist or specialist (+ why)?
>are there decent jobs at all?
>do you need insane amounts of charisma/social skills like business' reputation would suggest?

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are you a girl?

Are you a woman

If yes, then are you hot

If no, then is it a hipster start up

Dont do it. Im a man who after getting a useless psych degree decided to get a masters in HR.

It gay as fuck and not fun. I would not recommend it.

>do you need insane amounts of charisma/social skills like business' reputation would suggest?

your entire job is to socialize with people and lie to there face and make them fucking like it

why is it your psychology degree is useless?

Nope, guy here.

Hey, you're just like me. I'm finishing my psych degree in a year. What happened in the masters or subsequent events that made you not like it?

>guy

then no

Well I guess for just life knowledge and social skill you pick up some tips, but the B.S. degree qualifies you for 0 careers.

well all HR does is prepare you for the corporate world.

I HATE the corporate world. Picture a tiger pacing back and forth in a cage all day: torn, bored, depressed, and hating the cage that surrounds him.

IDK, maybe I'm the wrong person to talk to, but if business is your thing, then HR is not the most fun aspect.

You're better off becoming a shrink.

What about psycotherapy, teaching and, as you just said, HR?

I get what you mean though, it's not a very solid thing specially if compared to things like CS, finance, medicine, oil, etc.

Oh by the way, why would you study psych and then master's in HR if you really don't like it?

Would you or the earlier people who asked care to explain why a person's sex is so important in HR?

I can answer your questions. The therapy and teaching require post-bac work. The therapy needing either a masters in mental health counseling or a doctorate in clinical or counseling psychology. Teaching at university usually needs a PHD or a teaching license if going for high school psych teaching.

I'm okay with going to grad school personally, but so many people don't seem to acknowledge it exists and only looks at the (admittedly) uselessness of the undergrad degree.

>HR
>not the most soul crushing boring shit ever

You know all those forms you sign when you start a job, guess who makes them, HR. You know all those rules set by a company and the documents that are 100 pages long that explain them, that's HR. You know the person who has to deal with all the complaints and constantly has to hear how shitty something is, that's HR. Do you want to deal with socializing all fucking day with some of the worst people, because that's HR.

Protip, dont go in HR, people dont go in HR because it's fun, they go in because it's easy

Man I fucking hate HR. There's a reason why 99% of people in HR are females. HR is literally created because muh equality from feminism. It's the most fucking useless field in the world. HR should be fucking common sense, not a field on its own.

If a woman tells me she studied HR, I immediately lose all respect for her. ESPECIALLY if it's a dude saying he studied HR.

> Make job posts
> Ignore 90% of people. Don't even bother telling them they aren't good enough
> Call people who apply. Leave a message. Then don't ever call back during convenient times.
> Walk around getting coffee
> Respond to stupid ass emails. One an hour. Can't overdue yourself.
> Ignore the retarded sexual harassment emails about 'he said I looked nice today'

Sounds pro to me.

I've never seen a dude in HR ever

A dude in HR is a synonym for teh gay

That's a girl career

>Would you or the earlier people who asked care to explain why a person's sex is so important in HR?

the entire job is literally sitting around, judging people, and gossiping. only suited for a woman or faggot

I've worked in offices where all of hr are women, and ive worked in offices where most of hr are women. Hr is a lot of admin and support stuff and its dominated by chicks because they are the best at being useless and good-looking.

>your entire job is to socialize with people and lie to there face and make them fucking like it
This

Women with liberal arts degrees are the world's foremost problem.

Fuck human resources and fuck you, OP.

dont do teaching
do not ever do teaching

dont waste the only life you have for fuck sake

>Is HR a good field to go into?
What do you mean by this? Do you mean money? No it's working for peanuts. Do you mean work load? It's mundane and repetitive.
As stated by others HR is a woman's job because they took it over and only hire their own gender. Very rarely does a guy make it in HR, usually it's a demotion or to cover the companies ass with the EOE. A HR employees job is to pretend they're doing something. Perfect for some 30 something female loser with no ambition who enjoys shitting the day away with gossip and chitchat.
Find a job in something else.

heard graudate school for any masters work in social/liberal studies isn't worth it unless you get most of your education financed through scholarships
the yearly salary they give to master level careers isn't enough to pay back the loans in any feasible way. at least from the standpoint of the borrower/student

I'd rather have a woman judging me than an algorithm

algorithms have no pity
a woman might

algorithms can malfunction

women only ever want Chad

algorithms can't change their mind

women can and do, usually at the drop of a hat

algorithms may malfunction now, but technology is still improving

women will always be fickle.
also I can prove unjust hiring practices against a chad chasing bimbo than a licensed piece of software.

HR guy here
Sorry, not gay, banging young HR interns, fresh hires and other company ladies. No one can sue me since I AM HR and they love it.

HR is a good field in my experience, and as a man, you get lots of access to female employees of any level and position.
As some have said, the workload errs on the lighter side, but you can make a great difference going for more of a "talent development and training" route, talking to heads of departments about their training/learning needs for them or their people, and then providing that. In time, you can start consulting or going for Chief Talent Officer (CTO)
Also, you can start with "general HR functions" and then specialize more into compensations/remuneration, this is also a very highly demanded work field with very decent salaries, a compensation specialist earns about 80-90K.
If you are good at your work, you can get promoted to very high levels, I personally know the man that holds the Kellogs Latin America HR position, he doesn´t earn peanuts precisely.

Glad to see someone here with a positive take on it.

I was wondering a couple of things: do you have education in HR? Also, is it worth taking a 3 credit hr course or a business minor or is it pointless? A bit of background on me, I already have credit for business spreadsheets, business calc, and micro/macro econ.

>No one can sue me
lol you're a dumbass and a liar. enjoy that sweet bbc

Hey man, sorry I was doing other stuff.
Not education in HR per se, I have a BBA (Bachelor Business Administration), and HR is a very common field of work for BBA, so some aspects of it are covered during the career.
The little HR specific knowledge I have, I gained from Coursera, and it made me stand apart from others.

You being a psych are also almost immediately qualified for HR or OD (Organizational Development, quite similar but more focused on the training part), it is just a matter of choosing which attracts you more.
About your course options, HR is quite a forgiving field, all my career was more focused on the business side, with a slight dab of HR per se, mainly just labor laws.
What could hep you more are the "core" HR activities, specially recruiting and psychometric tests, they are the bread and butter of HR and if your 3 credit course covers them, take it, because it is the only universal requirements for HR, and it is not always taught in schools. Also, behavioral assessments and competency-based interviews are very demanded.

An HR masters degree can be of help, but usually HR certifications are way more sought after.
The best are
SHRM-CP
shrm.org/certification/about/aboutshrmcertification/pages/shrm-cp.aspx

and

PHR
hrci.org/our-programs/our-hr-certifications/phr

A coming trend is Big Data in People Analytics
critical-metrics.com/big-data-in-people-analytics/
Look online, you can find very good courses like this one that will look great on you CV and show that you stay ahead of times.
coursera.org/learn/wharton-people-analytics


Having said all this, the best you can do is start looking in Mnster or OCC for HR positions to check what qualifications they ask for, and compare that to what you have and what you can cover, also, do whatever you must to get HR-related work experience, even 1 year of experience as HR assistant is going to help you a lot.

Also, on the charisma and social skills, they do help, a lot.
Remember that for all intents and purposes, you are the face of the company to the rest of the employees, you give good news and bad news, hires, leaves, vacations and include that you have the authority to fire almost anybody and people are going to be very emotionally reactive to you, project their frustrations with the company or their job to you and similar situations, so you have to be very focused on what you say and the impact it can have, you have to be very emotionally mature and calm. HR has a bad rep mainly due to emotionally voluble women interacting with job-frustrated employees, so it turns into a free-for-all shitfest; if you stay calm and upbeat, things are very different and you will get very good evaluations.

Also, another good route for HR is Payroll Specialist, but is more focused on the accounting side, still a good direction.
Last, if you can, learn some HR platform like Taleo, it will help you immensely.

Go back under your bridge with the billygoats, true, they can sue me, but they don´t because they like me, my personality and my dick.

I have a BS in I/O Psych, trying to get an HR job now but ALL require experience. What the FUCK do I do? How do I get in?

Help this man! He's clearly desperate and not me.

If you are still in school, go with career counseling to make them help you, intern in whatever you can.
If not, unless you have contacts, you are going to have to go for the entry level and grind your way up.

jobview.monster.com/Entry-Level-Recruiter-Job-Charlotte-NC-US-166667641.aspx?mescoid=1300081001001&jobPosition=20

jobview.monster.com/Human-Resources-Entry-Level-New-Grads-Welcome!-Job-Cleveland-OH-US-166063027.aspx?mescoid=1300081001001&jobPosition=1

Also, look for the certifications, they can act instead of experience.

Certifications?

And it really doesn't matter if it's entry level, just going to do it for a year to pay off some loans and apply to grad school. Just want HR so it looks good on the grad school Resume.

Mother fucker is this a joke? I can't get into HR without experience or a Certification, I can't get a Certification without experience. What the FUCK. I just want an entry level HR job where I can make 28k+ for 1 god damn year in Omaha, Nebraska.

HR is where the people who couldn't cut it in marketing go. Why would you ever want to be in HR?

There might be jobs behind the red tape, and sure, I guess they probably pay salaries, but you're rarely I'd ever providing a valuable service to your peers, and you certainly aren't going to move up the last in any meaningful way. People hate HR, and I mean with a passion. If you ever want to do anything outside HR, or have any ambition whatsoever, for the love of God avoid a position in HR.

That was a very comprehensive response. Thanks user. I guess I could skip the whole minor and just do the class, but I wonder if I could get the experience needed for the certs and the knowledge they'd imply I have.

I'd like to think I could do right by employees in a HR role, but articles I read tell me I'd have to screw them over the second corporate tells me too.

Also I'm not very charismatic (especially not enough for marketing) which is why I originally asked if having low-average levels of it is a problem.

How the fuck do you get through the experience barrier into HR?

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Hey man, not a joke, certifications like SHRM-CP and PHR help a lot.
IF YOU DONT HAVE EXPERIENCE there are still good certifications like aPHR
hrci.org/our-programs/our-hr-certifications/aphr

Also, you can get into HR as an administrative assistant for HR, you learn, grind, get experience and then go into HR per se.

THIS JOB OFFER IS IN OMAHA; NEBRASKA.
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You could have a career in business. Look into purchasing, perhaps psych skills make you a skilled negotiator. My career is in business, my degree is Libarts, I have a buddy here who was a psych major. The other psych major I know works at the mall.

Damn this dude is the fucking homie

Unfortunately, HR has gotten a bad rep, mainly because most people in HR don´t care about the other employees in the company, tend to do just the minimum to appear they are working and get paid, and also what I said before about job frustrated employees, you being the face of the company and emotionally unstable women.
In my experience, a good HR can make a fuckton of difference, because they help to acquire, maintain and grow employees to very good levels of performance, take care of the company interests and will reduce problems for both sides. That is if they are truly interested in helping people grow, and see HR as a way to help people grow. If they don´t have that frame of mind, they will become regular mediocre HR people.

About moving up, if you want to stay in pure HR it depends on the company (how much room do you have to grow, is there a CTO or similar position, is it a multinational like Kellogs, etc)
There are 3 main side routes to go in HR:
-Compensations/Remuneration Specialist; This has great demand everywhere, and if you later focus on severance, you can be a professional axe-man, kinda like Richard Gere in Up in the Air
-Payroll Specialist, very similar to above but a little more focus on accounting, also very high demand.
-Organizational Development/Talent Development: Much more emphasis on the relationship of people and the way they act and affect the organization, this is more focused on the technical aspect, helping people acquire skills needed to do X, organizational climate, attitudes and beliefs, employee satisfaction stress, etc.

All of these have very good in-company demand levels and can be later turned into a consulting practice, or, if you have a good eye for candidates, you can start a third-party recruiting/staffing company.
In the end, I think being a good HR is more about others and less about yourself, being interested in others and their grow, that has to be your motivation and your source of pride.

Come on you son of a bitch, get mad and start applying in OMAHA, NEBRASKA
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Also in OMAHA,NEBRASKA, no experience, just a bachelors degree and using excel.

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IF any of you don´t know anything about resumes, or are not sure if you are doing it right, use this please, it is good enough for Harvard, it is good enough for you.

Harvard Resume guide (Undergrad)
ocs.fas.harvard.edu/resumes-cvs-cover-letters

Harvard Resume guide (Graduates)
ocs.fas.harvard.edu/files/ocs/files/gsas-cvs-and-cover-letters.pdf?m=1438033280

And here you will find downloadable Resume Templates
ocs.fas.harvard.edu/guide-template-library

Use this and have somebody (professor, director, alumni services, employment services, etc) in your school check it. Even post it in the Resume threads here, I´ve seen good advice there.

Also, another very good option about the resume, Li Sheng here in biz sometimes posts a Mega/Dropbox/don´t remember link with the full Overnight Resume Makeover from Ramit Sethi, download it and take a look, is good stuff,
This gives you the main points.
youtube.com/watch?v=_0fjkKCsM1w

Fix it pls. Resume thread ignored me.

Looking at entry level HR

Go into research homie. Ask a prof if they know of anything. Usually they do.

If you don't know a prof to ask you fuckin wasted your time in college m8.

bump

I had already applied to Gallup, just applied to ProKarma. All they wanted was a Resume, a little sketch but I'll take it.

Really appreciate it man. If anyone can find more Human Resources jobs in Omaha, Nebraska that don't require more than a Bachelors and Microsoft Suite skills I'll owe you my life

I'll give these a look, but resumes themselves are not really my problem as much as not having anything to put on them. Thanks again for all of the resources.

You can look on your own on job boards like Monster, Indeed, hell even Craigslist specifically has an HR section in jobs that. I think the HR-user has already gone far above and beyond the "call of duty".

This is a mess.

Do not put your GPA to 3 decimal places. Two at most.

What did you actually accomplish at your jobs? You've got these action words like INTERACT, COMMUNICATE, and UTILIZE but they don't tell me a thing. What the hell did you do at Student Anthropological Society as president or treasurer.

Get your ass to your school's career center, this thing needs a complete overhaul.

That's who helped me get if to this point!

Before if was a mess. And as far as what I did, nothing. It was a college job that afforded me and time to study. The same with the club. We just fucking hung out and talked about shit.

If you can spin things, or think about some fundamental shit to add (even if they're... Exaggerations) that will help me I would appreciate it.

At this point I've applied to roughly 20 HR jobs, though 12-15 will likely discount me offhand because I did not meet their experience requirement

Dude this still looks like a first draft. Is there anyone else you can sit down with and fix this resume? It's not good.

>there

I am willing to relocate literally anywhere for an HR job that pays enough to live wherever I relocate to. Not this "22,000 a year maybe" bullshit.

I have a Psych degree and I regret it.

There's you? Basically all I've done is on there. What would you fix?

I feel you

>There's you? Basically all I've done is on there. What would you fix?

1. Formatting. Find some A+ resumes online and steal the formatting. It doesn't have to look fancy or over the top, but something abotu this formatting is weird.

2. I know career services told you to use ACTION words, but action words like INTERACT, COMMUNICATE, UTILIZE, and TRAVELED are not good. You need to find a way to make it sound like you accomplished things. It sounds like you talked to people and drove around, not good. There has to be a way to make this job sound better.

3. Your third bullet point under Direct Support Professional makes it sound like you threw a bunch of buzzwords together. I don't work in this space and have no idea what the hell any of this means.

4. The phrase "and or" is not good.

5. Formatting in research section looks weird. Does your paper's title sum up your research really well, or are you able to add more details about what you did and learned?

6. What exactly does the student anthropological society do? You need to find a way to convey this. What duties and responsibilities did you have as president and treasurer? What did you accomplish? It sounds like it was mostly a discussion group but did you put on events or anything?

Your experience isn't bad at all. You've worked, have a good GPA, and participated in extracurriculars.

I'm not sure if you're just blindly sending your resume out or what, but that doesn't usually work (disclaimer: I did get my current job that way, although I'm not in HR and I had experience). A few things to do differently:

1. Get on Linkedin in you're not already. Talk to people from your school with similar experience.

2. It's probably too late for it at this point, but does your school have Society of Human Resource Management or something? I think my school had this for HR students and they could help with resumes, networking career fairs.

3. Does your school have career fairs or anything?

I actually went to a few career fairs and have had 3 interviews, but 2 were for financial institutes and 1 was for a (basically) social work job. I have a second interview for the social work thing tomorrow, but I'm only going to use that as a temporary fall back. I've been sending my info all around my area (Omaha, NE) but haven't had any solid HR leads. Only been at it for the weekend though.

I'll get on LinkedIn right now, that's a good idea.

How do you feel about Certifications? Namely the aPHR. It would be $400, which I have, but I want to make sure it's relevant and easy to get.

Since there are Nebraska people here, I'm UNL student, any advice for BBA major?

The fuck is a BAA, and what grade are you? I'm always over at UNL