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because accounting/finance is all about interpersonal relations
if you are super awkward, it wont work out
and if you didn't go straight to accounting after school, you probably never will
I wouldn't hire someone who went off to tech for a year or two after school and now wants to try out accounting
sorry man, its just the way of things

This is why I didn't go to business school.

>yfw all the 'people also viewed' sidebar is full of investment banking analyst Asians who all studied Economics at Dartmouth from 2010-2014.

Regular mortals really do stand no chance.

sexy young ladies from good schools basically. I bet their careers accelerate faster than Soyuz rockets achieving escape velocity. And yeah you're right - regular chumps are f***ed

Of course she only knows other IB asians; all the big banks and shit have their heritage groups for asians, blacks, etc. Are you really surprised that they band together in an environment that's 70% white male?

Guarantee you her boss is a white dude, and there's only like one director-level who is either non-white or non-male.

That doesn't matter for you, though, because you just tipped your hand as a sperglord; the only thing finance hates more than having to appear diverse is having to deal with stupid cucks who have no interpersonal skills.

>not tracking these herros down and taking them to PoundTown with a big American peenoos
user can at least impregnate genes into success for the future generation

Nope. Finance is driven by metrics. If she were in consulting, she'd hit a glass ceiling at the senior manager level (unless she has some stupendous networking skills and manages to get outside her all-asian pity party diversity group); in IB/finance, she'll have to get on her knees to get above senior associate or low-level manager.

All these diversity hires stick together, and none of them branch out or work to impress their white male executive management, and as a result, they all hit a glass ceiling. Bottom line, to get ahead in this shit you really need to be relatable to more than just people from your race/ethnicity/background.

Yeah, they're gonna earn a fair amount of money doing their IB thing for a big firm. No, they're not gonna reach the upper echelons of the organization because 1) there's only so many positions to begin with, and 2) they put themselves at a disadvantage by only networking with people of the same race.

you really believe that?
OH BOY

Why do you keep going on about race? Sounds like Ahmed's a little sour that his promotion got turned down for Chad Thundercock.

Did he steal your office crush, too?

What the key traits you need to succeed? Being hyper social? Hyper intelligent? Ability to work 100h work weeks?

Even after CPA tests are passed? Hmm that sucks. I have a finance degree and probably passed my first 2 tests.

Be reasonably intelligent, commit your life to your job, and have the right network or pedigree.

You can get away with a slight weakness in one of those three areas, but some intangible benefit would have to make up for it somehow.

>chad or stacy with 500+ connections

Isn't meritocracy great? ;)

meritocracy is socialism for chads and stacies ;=)

This company has already created over 430 millionaires in last 14 months.

[email protected].........

what do you mean? They pipeline doctors into hospitals.

Is she a stacy? She looks like an average asian to me. Are all female asians stacy?

Lol. Pre-med is a super cutthroat track, and only 20% because of the difficulty of the material (which honestly isn't that high). It's cutthroat because everything is graded on a curve, and there is a huge incentive, and culture, of sabotage. Peopel group together to form cliques to help each other/screw over other groups. Kissing ass to professors (or more commonly, TAs since the classes are taught/graded by them) and offering favors (of all kinds) for borderline stuff.

And then when you get to med school interviewing is a HUGE component of admissions, beyond grades and test scores (trust me, there's no shortage of 3.9+ GPAs and 95th percentile MCATs for any program you actually want to get into). And then it's all about social skills to not have to bust your ass and kill yourself in med school - get slightly easier rotations, less shitty assignments, etc.

And then when you get pipelined to hospitals you better hope you remembered to butter up your dean/supervising prof/whoever is writing the rec letters and determining placements.

And then once you're doing residency it's like 40 - 60% official politics depending on where you are. Basically pre-med 2.0.

If you think medicine is a no social skills needed field you're gonna be in for a rude awakening.

Consultant, can actually vouch for this. Met maybe two or three above that level.

I can name ten cities right now, in the middle of nowhere, that have been looking for doctors for over a year and found none.

Tell me they wouldn't hire a sperg willing to move there, and pay him the going rate. Regardless of his ass-kissing skills.

Being the only doc in the countryside isn't even that bad, lots of chill hours.

You're responding to me. I have a different ID because I'm on my work VPN and IPs change every ~20 mins.

I'm white, male, 28, and earning good money. I'm not jealous of anyone or anything; just annoyed at all the misinformation here because it's all FUD spewed by a bunch of basement dwellers assuming that minorities actually have it better than white dudes.

Sure, they can get their foot in the door. But they're not going to move up the company, either because they don't bother to network like they should, or they simply don't have the ability to connect with people from white culture. There's a disconnect there for some reason; I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that both blacks and asians tend to be very closed-off culturally from whites during their upbringing.

On the one hand, yeah, if you're an average white boy, you're gonna have a hard time getting in the door because of diversity hires and bullshit. But once you're in, you're much more likely to be on the fast track if you're not a fucking loser/weirdo. Management likes to work with people they relate to, so if you've got some interesting skills and interesting stories to tell, you'll be in much better shape than the immigrant in the next cube over, or the 20-something woman who's talking about wanting to be a mom, or the black dude who's throwing away his $50k salary on shoes or other consumerist bullshit every month.

Seriously, it's more of an equal playing field than ever before, but if you're a white person with white-collar parents, you've still got the advantage because you understand office politics better than any of the nignogs and slanteyes, and most of your bosses are still going to be white dudes so you've got an advantage there. If your work product is equal, but you're the more relatable employee, that's your leg up.

When you say spergs, do you mean the super social anxiety retards that are not able to old conversations? I am introvert, but I am able to create relationships and have conversations, and possibly fake it, but once you get to know me, you probably understand that I am introvert.

I am also trying to get into finance.

>Sure, they can get their foot in the door. But they're not going to move up the company, either because they don't bother to network like they should, or they simply don't have the ability to connect with people from white culture.
Well... This is a lie. I am Asian. I have four cousins, all who worked from the bottom and now, which three are managers or senior associates in finance/oil. All making +$100k a year. Why do you assume minorities are absolutely social retards and not able to network?

Seems like someone is a bit jelly, because they had to work their ass off to get a foot in the industry, because companies had 'diversity quotas'.

>pay him the going rate

nope

>mfw people actually believe this shit
No one actively works to fuck over other people. It isn't even possible unless the grader is literally marking correct answers wrong which can then be brought up to the professor or Dean and fixed.

What a crock of bullshit.

That said you can't be an autistic socially inept sperg and get into med school. You won't pass the interviews.

>No one actively works to fuck over other people. It isn't even possible unless the grader is literally marking correct answers wrong which can then be brought up to the professor or Dean and fixed.

people will delete your shit if you leave your computer unattended, or trash your papers (think notes, lab reports, etc.)

people will give you wrong/misleading info

etc. etc.

have you been to pre-med at a top ~25 - 50 school? it's like that everywhere.

It's just been my experience working in finance.

Other industries might be different, I don't know; but beyond that, 1) $100k is low-level management at most large financial or consulting firms, aka not a big deal. I'm making $100k, and I'm not even a manager. 2) you're actually proving my point, none of your family are executive managers or managing directors; they're all mid-level managers (at best).

I'm also not saying they're social retards; I'm saying their upbringing is different enough from their white counterparts that it often can be hard to bridge that gap to become upper-level management.

Again, this is just my experience; there aren't any hard numbers on this (that I'm aware of), but finance is still very much an old boy's club, much more so than many industries.

as an asian in finance, you're right

there are always exceptions but finance is heavily relationship based and is more racist than a lot of other industries. the asians flood the low and mid ranks, but executive ranks is largely old white men.

Are you serious about this? Just because someone took a year or two off they can never become an accountant because they actually needed to pay their own way through college? That's bullshit

Accountants are fucking weird, man.

That being said, there's a lot you can do with an accounting degree that isn't accounting, strictly speaking; however, for my money, you're better off with a finance degree from a top-10 institution.

>leaving your shit unattended
>going to libraries
>being around other people when you don't have to
You have only yourself to blame then.

The top 25-50 shit is irrelevant because no one needs to go to one of those for medschool.

I am a latino on a big 4 .

How fucked am I with all these "racism"

its not that they can never become an accountant, I just wouldn't hire them.

I am not alone, its why there are so many millenials who cant find work in their field of study.

If they didn't get hired by a firm out of school, there must be something wrong with them, (is the common train of thought).

So we focus on the new crop of graduates.

the ones who got left behind will stay left behind. Maybe a small firm will pick them up, but probably not. They are most likely lost.

i said top 25 - 50 meaning 1 - 25 or 1- 50.

it happens at harvard yale princeton stanford you idiot

No one on Veeky Forums goes to those universities and honestly who gives a fuck about them anyway? The original faggot was talking about people join groups to ruin other people which is literally impossible if you're not a fucking idiot.

>So we focus on the new crop
Literally Japan and Korea tier and why so many people are miserable and working in mini markets and shit.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_recruiting_of_new_graduates

If you do this, kill yourself immediately or move to nipland.

You'll make good money, even if you don't make it too far.

It'll be hard to get to MD, probably a bit harder for you than if you'd been born white.

In finance, I know you'd have to put up with microtransgressions and shit, if you have a thick skin and don't hold it against old people for being ignorant you'll be fine.

Your biggest enemy is going to be the other non-asian minorities seeking solidarity with you & dragging you down with their drama & bullshit wankery about muh racism.

Do your job well, stick up for yourself, speak English without a hispanic accent, and work hard to relate with the management staff, and you'll be in better shape than most.

Also, don't fall into the trap thought process that working harder than everyone else will get you farther; do what you need to to meet deadlines, but don't be "that guy who works late every night"; nobody likes the guy who has no life outside the office.

>No one on Veeky Forums goes to those universities

patently false

>The original faggot was talking about people join groups to ruin other people which is literally impossible if you're not a fucking idiot.

no it legit happens. it's not every day but it happens.

more prevalent is about people with connections (usually through frats or other social groups) getting copies of exams in advance, or past exams. they jealously guard them among people they know/are friends with and use that to get a huge advantage on the test.

sure you can overcome it if you're actually super smart but it's just another barrier for you to overcome.

the point i'm trying to make is pre-med is just as reliant on social skills. if you want to be a loner sperg engineering is probably better than pre-med.

That's pretty much how recruiting for accounting graduates works.
we interview and make offers in the fall to graduate school attendees who are graduating with their masters in the spring.

Their employment starts in the fall.

We literally interview and hire a year out.

if a person graduates without an offer, they literally will not get a job with a National or Regional firm. Period.

They might as well go to law school. Because they wont be an accountant.

>frats getting copies of exams early
I don't know what shit tier university you're talking about but this just doesn't happen.

Pre-med requires zero social skills. If you fail pre-med it is because you weren't smart enough. It has nothing to do with how good you are at maging gonnrgshons :+-DDDd

Maybe study groups would make it easier for you but you don't even need to be super smart to get through it.

What does require social skills are all the ECs you're going to have to do that require interviews and interaction with people.

You are as cancerous as the chinks then and I hope you die early and painfully.

You aren't. Not at all. Every big 4 has diversity programs.

Plus, if you speak Spanish fluently, Every big 4 does work in Puerto Rico, Mexico City, and throughout south America.

You are actually at an advantage. Good for you.

This is literally so fucked up, you're never taught how cut throat the world is growing up.

This. My experience with friends who applied to med schools after undergrad is that 1) pre-med isn't special; you're just as well off getting another STEM degree with a biology background or focus (chemistry, biology, neurology, engineering, etc.). The pre-med degree is largely a wankfest, and med schools don't care about the degree track, they care about the core curriculum and your grades in chem/biology/math, etc.

2) Admissions for med schools put a lot of weight on the pedigree of your degree, and your interview. Most med schools will arrange an interview for you to see if they want you at their school. Grades and GMATs can sometimes make up for bad interviews, but more often good interviews can make up for bad grades or bad GMATs (NOT both).

What I gleaned from my friends who went to med school is that pre-med is a waste of a degree program (because it offers relatively limited options post-graduation, unless you want a grad degree), and your interview with the med schools is probably just as important as your GMATs.

No, he's not. Unemployed doctors exist, and it's not because they're foreign/have terrible beside manner/have too many malpractice claims/etc.

pre med isnt a degree it's jus ta set of courses that consitutes basic med school requirements. most pre meds have a chem or bio or something like that degree.

med school takes MCAT not GMAt

can you not talk about stuff you obviously don't have experience with?

the process is what it is

don't be bitter you didn't get in.

think of it as an opportunity for individual growth. You can expand your entrepreneurial skills now.

I'm not even in finance and I would never want to be. Just hope you rats realize how terrible you are. You are literally the reason why people hate capitalism.

Capitalism is awesome. Everything good we have in this great country of ours is because of capitalism. Let the freedom of the free market ring baby.

>have you been to pre-med at a top ~25 - 50 school

talk to me again about how top schools are really good and you should go there for the top tier education in how shit the people who go there are

all you had to do was go to a normal place cj

is going to a top school a meme?

For medicine? Absolutely.

Are you talking about the recruiting stuff? Because that doesn't happen everywhere, just for the firms that want to hire ivy leaguers.

I really hope so, because if this is common practise that's extremely discouraging and unfair. As if dealing with nepotism wasn't enough.

I know people that go to the caribbean for their MD with 70% average. Move to america and rack in 300k+

The free market unchecked capitalism drones will just tell you to eat shit and deal with it if it's true everywhere. That's what they do in Japan because the gubmint just doesn't care.

This shit borders on human rights abuse.

This happens everywhere, not just Japan. Fact is there are simply too many people applying for jobs. An average of 100 candidates apply for 1 job opening even if its a shitty minimum wage file clerk job at a no name firm. For jobs that pay atleast above min wage you'll easily get 1000 applicants per job.

This is why euthanasia should be legal. Atleast the excess graduates who'll never amount to anything in life anyway can kill themselves off with dignity and without judgement.

Or get autismbux.

So what the fuck are people supposed to do? There's millions of hopeless assholes getting degrees every single year because you're totally fucked without one. Not everyone can stand out from the crowd, seriously what's the plan here when STEM degrees can't even find jobs?

LinkedIn is a fucking joke.

I run a business and I don't even have one.

Expect LinkedIn to fully collapse within 3 years.

Women and illegals off the work force.

There. Problem solved.

Why would you need one of you own a business? It's for people with hopeless job prospects.

500+ connections is not that hard, even my dad has them, I expect to have at least 300 before graduating

Just don't shoot for the stars. I applied at places like PIMCO and other mega-funds and they had more than 1000 applicants for every open position. After that I didn't bother with these places anymore and networked with smaller shops which dramatically reduced competition and got me a job in no time.

Same is true for IB. Dont apply for GS, JPM or elite boutique roles unless you are from a top 5 program, with excellent grades. Being a woman also helps a lot.

not just ivy leaguers, state U just as much.

smaller schools cant even get decent interviews.

Its not human rights abuse, its life there chief.

Either you do better than your peers or they will eat your lunch. So don't let that prick eat your lunch, earn your fucking paycheck man!

LinkedIn really is a joke.

They tried to make it the facebook of the professional world, but it just morphed into a recruiting site.

Nah man. Guaranteed job with minimum effort while getting bitches Amd living a great life has always been

Nursing, Pharmacy, and Accounting.

Pick one and you're set for life

>accounting
>great life

pick one

>pharmacy
>minimal effort
>enjoyable life
Enjoy those 1000hrs at CVS and another 1000 doing whatever else

This is literally the reason why I'm on STEM

>Capitalism is awesome.
Being discriminated is not awesome

>Everything good we have in this great country of ours is because of capitalism
That is not true and you know it.

you sarcastic or being genuine?
I'm a pharmacy student contemplating suicide.

>pharmacy
>getting bitches

You mean you GET to BE a bitch

Genuine. Every pharm student I know literally has no life. Even the pre-med people have more free time than them.

It's easy sailing once you get into pharm school though.

lol i was asking because I'm in the school already.
can't even get out of bed most days.
regret every decision I've made.

At least you have a job unlike CS majors

>googled "Investment Banking Analyst Goldman Sachs Linkedin" myself
>scrolling through the top 25 profiles
>NONE of them have an ivy league education

Why does Veeky Forums keep memeing the Ivy League to death then?

>Dont apply for GS, JPM or elite boutique roles unless you are from a top 5 program

W-What if you are from a top 5 program but are a sperglord?

"Do we take the acne faced, long haired, obese guy who can barely forms sentence with out taking a deep breath... Or do we take the decent looking people who are fit, clean, and show they care about their health?"

because biz is full of fucking wannabes

exactly

>trying to turn this around into a matter of attractiveness
You're just kike rats. Has nothing to do with what the person looks like.

It has everything to do with what you look like, particularly if you are a woman:
businessinsider.com/beautiful-people-get-more-job-interviews-2013-9

lmfao you gotta be kidding me

I work in Canary Wharf, London. 99% of people are clean, well groomed, and we'll dressed. Even the cafe staff.

Obese, ugly people have no chance here. I noticed a fat Chinese girl when I started here a year ago. Saw her again recently and she had lost all that excess weight. The power of peer pressure.

Which bank senpai? I'm at CS

>microtransgressions

Jesus christ, go back to tumblr you little girl.

>I don't know what shit tier university you're talking about but this just doesn't happen.
Literally happens at UT, Baylor and SMU. Went one and have high school friends that went to the others. It happens everywhere.

Fuck off this is a white board

Well I'm a sperglord with an accounting degree who went to a mediocre public college and ended up in investing banking at JPM