White Slavery

Fun fact, the raid on Iceland was led by an ex-Christian Dutchman.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Janszoon

baka @ dutchmen

Europeans are probably the most enslaved group of people in history if going by numbers, definitely the most enslaved group if going by per capita, especially if you count serfdom as real slavery. Of course this was mainly European on European slavery.

Some Europeans were subjected to chattel slaver as back as the 18th century.

Germans are white.

"no"

To even classify slavery by skin-color is ridiculous. Only, and ONLY, in America during a short period was slavery something that was related to skin-color. For the great majority of human history, it was not.

Fucking Americans and their cultural exports are causing this bullshit to spread.

solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/they-were-white-and-they-were-slaves-michael-a-hoffman-ii.pdf

A nice little book on the subject....

>Fucking Americans
Proud Yankee here. The saddest part is that it's not even most Americans. It just filthy dixieland degenerate hillbillies scumming it up on anonymous message boards because that's basically the last place on Earth where their presence is semi-tolerated.

Every once in a while you see racists put in a parade in America and then get BTFO by a parade of counter-protesters, often with over 10 times as many people.

They know how to be loud, angry, and long-winded about their beliefs but the majority of Americans aren't fooled and can't stand them, which is why I'm fine with the endless onslaught of SJW bullshit because its the chemo America deserves.

>michael-a-hoffman

Where did this narrative that white liberals are cuckolds to black men come from, anyway? Does it have any basis in reality, or is it the insecure rambling of those who need to feel superior at any cost?

Interesting. Are there any incidences of "infidel slavery" in Christianity or other religions? I'm surprised Muslims ever took prisoners. Why keep around an ideologically-poisonous person who you think is going to hell? Also, the way those guys in OPs pick are leering at her... are they really gonna stick their dick in hellbound flesh? That seems... kinda against principle. I mean, the won't even eat pork. Why fuck infidel? Why let infidel live on your property?

Masturbation fantasies of right-wing morons who can no longer distinguish reality from their own wishes and desires.

They're always the most flagrant hypocrites when it comes to other people's morality. Pic related

amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1464978145&sr=1-1&keywords=white cargo

Je ne peux croire qu'il y ait des gens aussi stupides...

>Are there any incidences of "infidel slavery" in Christianity or other religions?
Yes

>I'm surprised Muslims ever took prisoners. Why keep around an ideologically-poisonous person who you think is going to hell?
The idea, not just for Muslims but all pre-modern slavery that allowed for eventual freedom and integration, was that by cutting off a slave from their previous culture and inundating them in a new, godly society, they would adopt the supposedly superior culture of their owners in time. Think of it like American views on integration in the 80's and 90's.

>Also, the way those guys in OPs pick are leering at her... are they really gonna stick their dick in hellbound flesh?
The painting was one of many others painted in Europe around that time period combining eroticism and orientalism.

>That seems... kinda against principle. I mean, the won't even eat pork. Why fuck infidel? Why let infidel live on your property?
Technically true, traditional Muslim thought looked down on interreligious sexual relationships even within an otherwise legal marriage or concubinage, assuming that the mother's heretical or infidel values will imprint on what would normally be free born Muslim children. But that's principle, and in pre-modern Middle Eastern history it rarely interfered with private affairs.

maybe they just want to exploit infidel

nice try Hans

Not every Muslim is now, or was then, a fanatical fundamentalist. There are, and always have been, plenty of moderates more concerned with the introspective aspect of Jyhad, or making yourself right with God, without needing to fucking slaughter everything. That's just a very biased understanding to think "Jyhad" is solely an outward war, or that it means you literally need to murder people.

cuck

>look, mom, I typed it again!

it’s important to note that the only large scale, real, racialized chattel slavery by which slaves were born not made was white people enslaving black people during colonization

>taking a joke literally
You might as well be cucks, liberals really do think being a doormat is morally righteous and demand everyone lie down with them. It stems from Rousseau's assumption that all humans are good and the belief you must be excessively trusting which is obviously not true.

How many times have 450 lb protestors screamed for an extra $10000 a year in their welfare checks while marching past homeless mentally ill and drug addicts who have never seen a penny from the welfare system?

We all know you are already guilty of this or something like this, it's true. Learn to laugh at yourself and stop taking yourself so seriously, learn to take criticism and admit when you are wrong. That is what decent people do.

>tedhaggard
no idea who this is, sounds like a meme you are using to pretend anyone who isn't part of your extremist group is a bad person and right wing

If greeks, romans and germans are not white then what are they you idiot?

>White liberal males are effeminate and frequently associate with blacks to prove how diverse and tolerant they are
>All women want masculine men
>Ergo the girlfriends of effeminate white liberal males will leave said effeminate white liberal males to be with masculine black males and the ELMs won't object because that would be rayciss

At least I think that's the rationale.

>Are there any incidences of "infidel slavery" in Christianity or other religions?
The slave trade was normal in christendom throughout the late antiquity/early medieval period but those slaves came from many faiths including christian. Later on the pope banned enslavement of christians with varying degrees of success, so from then on you could say there was an "infidel slave trade" in christianity. Describing the slave trade in such terms is kind of silly though.

>I'm surprised Muslims ever took prisoners. Why keep around an ideologically-poisonous person who you think is going to hell?
They didn't give a shit, they just wanted money and slaves are an easy source of money

>Also, the way those guys in OPs pick are leering at her... are they really gonna stick their dick in hellbound flesh? That seems... kinda against principle.
Islam has nothing against fucking war captives, and even if it did that wouldn't stop them. People always fucked slaves, Romans, Christians, Muslims, Chinese, Americans, everyone. Hardly anybody really gives a fuck about religion when it comes to it and they're definitely not going to give up dat ass over it.

It's not even about sjws versus /pol/tards, its about how modern American social categories and patterns are being retconned to apply to vastly different societies and times. It's an awful way of doing history but because of America's cultural dominance you see it everywhere.

t. Burger who specializes in mena history

Le niveau de ce thread est triste...des enfants de 15 ans qui ne connaissent rien a l'histoire...

>liberals really do think being a doormat is morally righteous and demand everyone lie down with them.
not true btw.

cuckoldry doesn't make sense from a liberal perspective. It's a thoroughly right-wing fetish.

>How many times have 450 lb protestors screamed for an extra $10000 a year in their welfare checks while marching past homeless mentally ill and drug addicts who have never seen a penny from the welfare system?
left wingers usually advocate for increased services for the homeless and addicts, so again not sure how this is relevant.

>We all know you are already guilty of this or something like this, it's true. Learn to laugh at yourself and stop taking yourself so seriously, learn to take criticism and admit when you are wrong. That is what decent people do.
"Just accept that I'm right because I say so and if you don't you're taking yourself too seriously"

>no idea who this is, sounds like a meme you are using to pretend anyone who isn't part of your extremist group is a bad person and right wing
lel what extremist group? It is an obviously retarded strawman but it's not like your post was any better. You're complaining about being compared to an extremist while calling that dude an extremist. Hypocritical.

>inb4 some retarded bullshit
I'm not even a leftist, not even american and I'm aware of the many faults that movement holds. Don't try your strawman shit on me.

>no idea who this is, sounds like a meme you are using to pretend anyone who isn't part of your extremist group is a bad person and right wing
He's the perfect example of a right-wing hypocrite who ranted all day long about degenerate liberals having gay sex all the time while secretly looking for it himself.

>Ted Arthur Haggard (born June 27, 1956) is an American evangelical pastor.... he was the founder and former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado; a founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches; and was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) from 2003 until November 2006.

>In November 2006, male prostitute and masseur Mike Jones alleged that Haggard had paid him for sex for three years and had also purchased and used crystal methamphetamine.[1] Haggard denied having sexual intercourse with Jones, but admitted purchasing crystal methamphetamine, claiming he did not use the drug. A few days later Haggard resigned from all of his leadership positions. Grant Hass, who formerly attended New Life Church, has said that then-pastor Ted Haggard performed a sex act (allegedly masturbation) in front of him in a hotel room in 2006 and sent him explicit text messages.[2]

>After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive counseling, overseen by four ministers. In February 2007, one of those ministers, Tim Ralph, said that Haggard "is completely heterosexual."[3] Ralph later said he meant that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help to embrace his heterosexual side." On June 1, 2010 Haggard announced that he intended to start a new church in Colorado Springs.[4] In a July 2010 interview with CNN, he confirmed that he has "completely shunned away any homosexual feelings he has had in the past."[5] In the February 2011 issue of GQ, however, Haggard said that, "probably, if I were 21 in this society, I would identify myself as a bisexual."[6]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard

>liberals really do think being a doormat is morally righteous and demand everyone lie down with them.
Right wing Christians are the ultimate cucks. While they're praying and being good little kissless dindus their girlfriends and daughters are fucking around behind their backs.

reproductive-health-journal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1742-4755-6-14

Not only are Evangelical and devout Catholic teen girls more likely to get pregnant and/or get an abortion, they're more likely to have sex irresponsibly and/or with multiple partners.

>White Slavery

The Greeks and the Romans were the first major white powers, that I'm aware of, that used slavery to fuel their economies, and the slaves they used were primarily whites from conquered European tribes.

>thinks religion has anything to do with women being whores

Mongols probably had a bunch of slaves. Shit, you got blonde mongolians today because they brought so many blonde women back to the steppes for a-rapin'.

There's a direct correlation in the data. Less informed women such as brainwashed Christards tend to make more idiotic sexual choices because they have no actual idea what the fuck they are doing.

Virtually the entire first generation of widely popular female porn stars had devout Catholic upbringings while the men were mostly Jewish. There's a reason "Catholic schoolgirl" is a code-word for "easily manipulated slut"

>Less informed women such as brainwashed Christards tend to make more idiotic sexual choices

>dumb women make dumb decisions

Wow, that's an amazing discovery, user.

Regardless, the whore like propensity of women has nothing to do with whether or not they were indoctrinated in a religious cult or not, while it has everything to do with biology.

Reminder that atheists are subhuma

Which Jew cult fantasy do you follow, user? The original, Jew-Fu II: Crucifixion Boogaloo, or are you down with the Mohammad Jews?

Perhaps you're more into the Oriental cults?

Enjoy your role playing, regardless.

>Regardless, the whore like propensity of women has nothing to do with whether or not they were indoctrinated in a religious cult or not, while it has everything to do with biology.
It has to do with what their culture promotes.

Fundamentalist Christian culture rewards women for unthinking obedience while punishing them for asking rational questions about their sexuality.

>It has to do with what their culture promotes.

Exactly.

If a culture doesn't promote, and implement, social controls on female biology and reproduction, then women will be more likely to whore away, because that's what they're wired to do.

There's a reason that teen pregnancy is higher in the west these days, and it's because the west essentially rewards women for making shitty decisions and getting pregnant outside of a marriage, by stealing tax dollars from fellow citizens to support the whore and her whore spawn.

When society shuts all that shit off and allows the whore, and her spawn, to starve and freeze to death, as they should, then chicks won't be so willing to allow any passing penis into their vagina whenever the mood strikes them.

Religious cults don't have shit to do with it...

>There's a reason that teen pregnancy is higher in the west these day
it's actually in decline

>If a culture doesn't promote, and implement, social controls on female biology and reproduction, then women will be more likely to whore away, because that's what they're wired to do.
In theory.

In practice it has the opposite effect: repressing them teaches them that their sexuality is something out of their control, something that they have to relinquish to a strongman who assures her that its for her own moral integrity. Over time social repression builds resentment, which provokes rebellion, and that means throwing their sexuality at the next strongman who knows that putting her down the way she was trained to take it is the secret to getting her to do what he wants.

The single most effective tool to stopping this sort of behavior is education. When women have greater agency over their minds and bodies they're more apt to treat it with respect.

>There's a reason that teen pregnancy is higher in the west these days, and it's because the west essentially rewards women for making shitty decisions and getting pregnant outside of a marriage, by stealing tax dollars from fellow citizens to support the whore and her whore spawn.

rates of teen pregnancy are higher among evangelicals and Catholics than among atheists and non-practicing Jews. Shitty Bible thumping states whose welfare programs have been gutted by Republicans have higher rates of teen pregnancy than states with a strong social support apparatus

>rates of teen pregnancy are higher among evangelicals and Catholics

You mean brown people.

Pic related....

Add to this, Muslims were of varying degrees of piousness. Some Barbery slave traders were terrified of the idea that their slaves might convert to Islam because that would send them to hell.

actually, the great lakes region has a larger percentage of "brown people" getting pregnant as teens, completely separate from the social problems plaguing the Bible belt

Not white

Oh my those regions do not correlate with poor mexicans and blacks as well.

Poor Mexicans tend to congregate in the south west, away from those regions, while poor blacks congregate not only in the bible belt but also in the great lakes region as well, and there is no correlation with the distinctly high rates of teen pregnancies that occur regardless of income level in the Bible belt.

Exactly this.

>I'm fine with the endless onslaught of SJW bullshit because its the chemo America deserves.
You have no idea what the SJWs are about then do you. If they weren't as bad they're getting there, and the long term effects that their marxist dogma will have can be devastatingly regressive if it takes. They encourage false narratives, racism, as well as censorship and are nearly religious in nature. the chemo this country deserves is a nationalist movement meant to unite. Not the hideous abomination of marxist justice meant to divide.

Also the English used the Irish as slavers on fishing boats in coastal US and Newfoundland
the first slaves to reach north america were the irish

>If a culture doesn't promote, and implement, social controls on female biology and reproduction, then women will be more likely to whore away, because that's what they're wired to do.
Evidence shows that literally the opposite is true in the US. When people call you a christcuck, they mean it literally.

Or, you know, simple observation.See:

It's a literally brainlet tier insult.

This. U.S. foreign policy from the 40's onwards allowed radical fundamentalists to take power in the Mid-East.

It is also important to note that it doesn't matter.

Liberalism in the United States has degenerated into acceptance of any demand that is seen as "empowering" towards special interest groups with a history of discrimination, such as blacks and women.

White liberals have no intellectual arsenal to refuse a black man to have sex with his wife or daughter. If he says no he doesn't want because he is jealous, then he is a misogynist patriarchist, if he says no because he is uncomfortable, then he is a racist white supremacist.

Without any moral legitimacy to impede cuckolding, it is obvious that black men and white women will take advantage of this to hold sexual relations.

Greeks were brown at that time. They loved blacks more than barbarian whites. Same with romans. White washing history are we?

>you got blonde mongolians today
Partly true, but don't forget all the Russian and German explorers who left their "footprints" in more recent times.

>Virtually the entire first generation of widely popular female porn stars had devout Catholic upbringings
Well, apparently they weren't devout enough.
>There's a reason "Catholic schoolgirl" is a code-word for "easily manipulated slut"
More like 'naive, inexperienced girl to be taken advantage of", not that it matters, though.

>There's a reason "Catholic schoolgirl" is a code-word for "easily manipulated slut"
Fedora tippers are bigots
Who cares

Could you imagine explaining these thoughts to a greater public?

Contribue ou ferme ta gueule.

Slavery in a nutshell: a lot of people were slaves, a lot of people made/had slaves. Nuff said.

epic meme :-)

>"Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation…and as few of the English understand the German Language, and so cannot address them either from the Press or Pulpit, ’tis almost impossible to remove any prejudices they once entertain…Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties...In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not in My Opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious."

>Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

- Benjamin Franklin

Germans can't integrate into white society.

>Technically true, traditional Muslim thought looked down on interreligious sexual relationships
What are you talking about? Muhammed took all kinds of sex slaves. Every general after him took hundreds or thousands of sex slaves after conquering a territory.

If you mean muslim women marrying someone of another religion, then obviously yes. But men were encouraged, although they were clearly discouraged to devalue non-muslim women.

>implying that American Christjews use control measures on their females

Females in the U.S. can do whatever the fuck they want, even the Christjew bitches.

What happens to them if they get pregnant? Nothing. Other than qualifying for YOUR money in tax subsidies.

The only people in the U.S. that might still have an impact on their females are the Muslims, because their men aren't a bunch of pussies the way most western urbanite "men" are these days.

The first slaves in north America were with the Spanish and they were black.

meme wise cuck was originally meant to insult RINO but /pol/ translated the meme to direct at liberals

I said they weren't white.

Québecon is that you ?
Go back to /fr/ you fucking faggot

What about the enslavement of Europeans by Europeans? Is that not white slavery?

Why don't you mention the African and Jewish roles in the slave trade? "White" wasn't even a coherent identity by the time the slave trade took off.

nationalism is literally the act of pitting one ethnic group against all the others.

SJWs encourage harmony among the ethnic groups and the tacit recognition that being born on a certain patch of dirt doesn't make you superior. They often go way overboard and are known for bouts of self-righteous zeal, but conservatives are guilty of the same sins in far greater proportion.

>Not the hideous abomination of marxist justice meant to divide.
You only perceive it as divide and conquer tactics because that's what they have been successfully using to drive dogmatic conservatism into the dustbin of history, and I approve of these tactics because movement conservatism has become so riven with groupthink and self-reinforcing stereotypes that they have become completely untethered from reality and needed a good primary shellacking like what they suffered at the hands of Donald Trump.

That's the same shit as military cucks thinking that chicks dig men in uniform instead of sissy civilians and who is too wrapped up in his own shit to pay attention to who his wife is having over during the day.

what

>SJWs encourage harmony among the ethnic groups...

No they don't.

They encourage the same shit that fascists encourage. Obey the party line. Deviate, and you will be outcast....unless you're a minority group, then you can be as bigoted as you want.

SJW's do nothing but confirm the fact that "tolerance" and "diversity" is 100% bullshit, and that today those are little more than excuses being used to grab power. They clearly demonstrate that the ONLY way to maintain any decent kind of society is to maintain an ethnically hemogenous society, so as to avoid all the bullshit associated with "diversity" and "tolerance".

Slavs were enslaved by arabs through Cuacusus and still have been enslaving.

>What are you talking about? Muhammed took all kinds of sex slaves. Every general after him took hundreds or thousands of sex slaves after conquering a territory.

I'm talking about the most common views of major Muslim theologians ranging from Ibn Hanbal to Al-Ghazali and Averroes. This may come as a surprise, but not everything ever said about Muhammad was taken as historical fact nor ethical law. Besides, the majority of these concubine stories were meant to highlight a mythological ancestor who converted within Muhammad's lifetime and presence that some later group or person claimed descent from.

Again, principle rarely interfered with private life especially among the Arab or early Muslim elite, many of whom also indulged in obscenities, alcohol, fortune telling, extravagance, and numerous other vices regardless of negative Islamic views on these actions.

>No they don't.They encourage the same shit that fascists encourage.
Oh, I'm sorry, I guess I must have been drunk and stoned when I saw establishment conservatives recognize that they needed to boost their outreach among minorities and women and the base told them to go pound sand.

>Obey the party line.
Resistance is futile, user. Come over to the dark side, we have cookies and healthcare and QT3.14 asian girlfriends

>unless you're a minority group, then you can be as bigoted as you want.
Welcome to the feeling that comes when you're on the losing team and they're being sore losers about it. More people have been accosted by overzealous Christians in Target bathrooms than those who have been accosted by transgender people, which is half the reason why church attendance has been plummeting steadily since conservatives made religion a political statement and then had to be bleeding hearts about it

>They clearly demonstrate that the ONLY way to maintain any decent kind of society is to maintain an ethnically hemogenous society, so as to avoid all the bullshit associated with "diversity" and "tolerance".
No, they recognize that when you guarantee people's freedom and dignity you don't need a powerful government pitting people against one another.

SJWs encourage a mixing of ethnic groups, with the naive hope that hostility and friction can be eliminated. Nationalists seek to create a world of countries that individually are harmonious, and can pursue their own interests in a peaceful way.

I knew Veeky Forums was reddit lite but god damn, I didn't think we had bona fide crazy SJW's on here.

Kindly fuck off back where ever you came from and stay there you cancerous faggot.

>SJWs encourage a mixing of ethnic groups, with the naive hope that hostility and friction can be eliminated.
The only hostility and friction is coming from white conservatives who are furious that being white is no longer a free pass to economic privilege.

>Nationalists seek to create a world of countries that individually are harmonious, and can pursue their own interests in a peaceful way.
Nationalism is a slippery slope that ends in one thing: weaponized Keynesianism: disparate countries using war as an economic booster, in essence exporting human misery on a convenient scapegoat, which only becomes feasible when you foster this culture of "ours" verses "theirs"

With that being said, nationalism is in fact preferable to movement conservatism, who at this point have become the useful idiots of international bankers and multinational conglomerates who use inversion tactics to screw laborers out of their wages.

>an SJW is shitting up a thread because he doesn't personally like the subject matter

SJW's once again attempting to silence free speech

That's right, Veeky Forums is a place where you will be challenged to think. It's not a place where you can run out everyone who isn't drunk on /pol/ groupthink.

There are conservatives, liberals, nationalists, Christians, atheists, Muslims, Lost cause neo-confederates, free market libertarians, race supremacists, social justice warriors, right-wingnuts and conspiracy theorists. On the daily there are vibrant, active discussions among these groups and generally people try to keep things civil.

The only one making this discussion personal is you so kindly shut the fuck up and lurk moar. This isn't /b/ and this isn't /pol/ it's Veeky Forums

>SJW's once again attempting to silence free speech
at no point have I tried to discourage the discussion, but I am under no obligation to make it an easy one for you to have.

You only think I am because you have no rebuttal of substance to any of my points.

You haven't made any points that aren't the precanned buzzword arguments all SJW's make.

So kindly fuck off back to whatever shithole you came from and please stay there.

That would be a sound argument if you hadn't started the debate with a personal attack on southerners.

Sounds like you're just a butthurt yankee nigger using Veeky Forums as anonymous reddit so you can rage against whitey.

>You haven't made any points that aren't the precanned buzzword arguments all SJW's make.
And you haven't made any points that don't sound like /pol/ talking points so maybe you'd like it better in a place where everyone thinks you're smart and funny, because you obviously didn't come here to put your beliefs to the test.

reddit please
>>>/reddit/

>I'll tell him to go back to /pol/, that'll show him!

You just keep exposing yourself as a butthurt liberal faggot that would be much better suited to reddit.