How do I get out of the depression pit I've been in for the past year and get Veeky Forums and confident?

I was depressed as a teen. I don't exactly know how to advise someone to get out of it. I didn't really do anything special myself.
Part was getting out of school, a toxic environment that drove much of the depression. Part was meds. At a certain point it was just too much hassle to get re-fills so I weaned off and stopped.

I feel like if people just live a healthy lifestyle it's going to take care of most of it.

eg. Good diet, cardio and lifting. Remove one's self from toxic situations etc.

I can't tell you how to motivate yourself to do all that, though.

Maybe while you're being a loser in your room you could study body weight exercises and yoga, a bit, then do some?

how do you sleep more? I know eye sockets are a meme here but I fucking hate mine. I started working out but cant loose any stomach fat or gain muscle despite being 157 pounds. Really frustrating because I invest like 3-5 a day 2 working out

youtube.com/watch?v=wejm0cGqv3Y
start doing this exercise and also this
youtube.com/watch?v=OPcG_thX6Dc
youtube.com/watch?v=LZ6K5ob96FI

Do the plank as well.

How long have you been working out?
Around 3-4 months I started seeing changes.

For more sleep just go to bed earlier. Do you have trouble falling asleep? I do. What I've found works best is to smoke hashish before bed. If that's not available I've found a lot of relief by taking melatonin tablets 1-2 hours before bedtime. Also Dexylamine tablets, I use a brand called Hoggar Night. A cup of herbal tea(without caffeine) with 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and 1 tablespoon of honey before bedtime also can help with getting more sleep.

about 2 months and I heard planks where only good for making you better at doing planks. Thanks for this though user really kind of you!

First and foremost:
1. Fix sleep. Wake up each day at the same hour no matter what. Fucked up sleep schedule = fucked up circadian rhythm = fucked up hormonal balance = depression.
2. Drink nothing other than water or unsweetened coffee/tea.
These two are EASY AF to do and can have a major influence.

After sticking with these two for a while (3-4) build new habits. Don't try to change too much at once else when you lapse in 1 area you lapse in all areas and it's a disaster.

>-Jerk off to yourself in front of a mirror 2-3 times a week

Benefits?

>Jerk off to yourself in front of a mirror 2-3 times a week
Top kek, this cant be not a joke

go to your doctor

fake adhd and anxiety

get benzos and adderall

feel like a god

you're welcome

mannn, i did not even have to fake anything and got alprazolam, lorazepam, olanzapine, quetiapine and pipamperone and some other stuff to calm me down and turn me back to normal.

but antipsychotics are just complete shit, and benzo's are just nothing special. the only time i enjoyed taking xanax was that one time when i took 15 mg at the same time and i felt incredibly high but blacked out soon after, such a shame.

the only thing being a fucking lifesaver is the ritalin they prescribed me. guessing the adderall is a bit similar, probably even better because it is a different kind of stimulant. but yeah, apparently i could not pay attention properly or something, and they told me it was very important to keep taking it for the rest of my life. fine with me. more energy and motivation. i feel more creative. household tasks are almost fun. less anxiety because it makes me open up more easily and i become more talkative. decreased appetite, keeping you in shape without any effort. such a shame my insurance does not refund any costs from adhd meds for adults.

exactly maaaaaaaan

pills saved my life

>antipsychotics are just complete shit

You know how bad they say SSRIs are? Anti-psychs literally shrink your brain.

this dude is right too

my psych wanted to put me on SSRIs and i told her to fuck off right quick

you don't need to get a job? what are you living from?

1) Kevin does it

2) Primally, we all want to fuck ourselves. The people we're most attracted to are the ones who look most like us. Seriously, there are studies that took photos of subject's faces, altered the photos to eliminate responses of immediate recognition, and then placed the pictures among pictures of other faces to be ranked by the subjects. Want to know which faces were rated highest?

My original post was done tongue in cheek, but self-fixation is something I practice instead of watching porn because I think the story Narcissus can teach us something valuable. Once you know you're better than everyone else, being confident is easy. That 10 who's "out of your league" doesn't seem so special once you're in love with yourself.

It's okay if you think I'm an asshole or freak, I get what I want in this world, that's all that matters to me.

i've been on so many antidepressants and antipsychotics and my conclusion is that most of it is poison. it brought me more misery than anything. depression was just as bad, suicidal thoughts through the roof (many meds actually can cause suicidal thoughts and ideations, but they probably never mention that to their patients). sex drive down to zero. antipsychotics are the worst imo. was given one for insomnia and was hooked to it for four years because i became dependant on them and had to go through severe withdrawal symptoms to quit them. i actually started getting paranoid thoughts for the first time while on them, a bit ironic. others turned me into a zombie and i was unable to feel any type of emotion, nor good nor bad. heart palpitations. low blood pressure. muscle spasms. unable to even ride a goddamn bike. fainting, dizziness, literally just dropping onto the floor out of the blue. severe akathisia. binge eating episodes. what the fuck is even in that stuff? it just made everything worse. luckily most of the negative effects went away completely, but they basically scared the shit out of me and i have no clue on how all of this is legal and prescribed as if it is some box of harmless candy.

i think i would even be better off getting into recreational drugs, as i assume it is just as well possible that both can ruin you completely in one way or another and you die some miserable death eventually, but if you choose the first option at least you still had some fun while on route.

I guess the way these doctors must justify it is like...

If you don't get a treatment, you're dead, so any treatment where you don't die is a win.
And you're probably too retarded and/or fucked up to follow a treatment that is hard to do.
So here, swallow this shit and live. As a zombie.

My experience of SSRIs actually wasn't too bad. One really did allow me to have elevated moods. The others kinda just took the edge off. Rotating me on to ones that worked less well might have been how I managed to get off the things.

For the rest of my life I might wonder if my time on these fucked with my developing brain, though.

Narcissism and egoism are purest ideas of a man's happiness.
Any literature on this you can recommend?

Anti-depressants, anti-psychotics, anti-anxiety benzos, all this shit is like putting chewing gum on a leaking hole in a dam - it's a temporary fix.

If you really want to be at your best you have to find the root causes of the problems. A lot of these 'medicines' just treat the symptoms of an issue that is deeper in the psyche. Often it is caused by unresolved trauma suffered as young children. Be it abandonment, teasing, verbal abuse, sexual abuse a traffic accident or other sort of trauma.

Most mental illness today is psycho-somatic, and can be treated without drugs. I was sexually abused as a child, something that I can't even remember. But my body remembered. I acted out violently a lot as a kid and was diagnosed with ADHD, put on ritalin and anti-psychotics(risperdal). I quit that shit after I was done with high school.

The last 3 years have been pretty hellish, but I found a therapist about a year ago who specialised in trauma. Try to find a therapist who is trained in Somatic Experiencing and/or gestalt therapy. These were the therapy forms that worked for me. Before this I went to a public psychologist for half a year and it didn't do shit - all I got was cookie cutter advice - stop drinking, start working out, don't do drugs, do some breathing excersises. That shit don't work. Find a private therapist who knows their shit and that you vibe with. No secrets.

Just my 5 cents.

How do you know you got abused?
I have a sort of memory of a memory that might have been a dream and could be several memories stuck together, who knows?
My parents took me to some kind of adult party. (Not x-rated just not a kid's party) and I think it was at night. I remember there was this high ceiling and there were balloons on the ceiling.
I was in a semi-dark bedroom, or something, at some point and a man there wouldn't let me leave. I can't remember seeing the man.
Hearing about repressed memories I sometimes wonder if this is a remnant of some sicko doing something to me.

I'm certainly fucked up but my parents were plenty abusive so it need not have happened to explain things.

Flashbacks coming up randomly and while in therapy. Suddenly I talk like I'm a little 5 year old kid saying shit like "stop, dont do it, i don't want to", crying, shaking etc. Also my asshole has been weird my entire life, like semi-prolapsed. Pretty sure there was a too big dick trying to fit in a too tight asshole once.

The memories/feelings/flashbacks also felt really dream-like and disjointed just like you describe it.

I can't be 100% certain that it happened, as I don't have any concrete proof - but all those weird things together has made me - together with my therapist - come to the conclusion that, yes I was sexually abused when I was young. I do not know when, by whom or where it happened - but I think it was in this weird private kindergarten that I went to as a kid.

That's rough. I have some asshole problems but that started after trying to push a solid granite turd out once, so I can't put too much stock in that.

I know for a fact repressed memories are legit because I realized I actually repressed how a pet died when I was in my late teens.
I fabricated an alternate version of how it happened and some time later thinking on it I realized how it actually happened.

Did you follow pizzagate much?

Been following these fuckers since before pizzagate was a term. Franklin cover-up, Dutroux affair, royal family's best friend Jimmy Saville, etc.

I come from an old 'elite family', architects, lawyers, surgeons, politicians etc since the 1600s at least. Pretty sure my dad knows something about the abuse and that this is some multi-generational thing I've been a victim of. But it's hard to say.

But we're kind of getting into a whole other topic here. I'll stop now and end with this book. It helped me a lot on my way to recovery: docdroid.net/3MlResv/dialogues-with-forgotten-voices.pdf.html

i am definitely not a fan of meds to treat mental health issues either, but sometimes i just literally have no clue on what to do next.

for years psychiatrist have been telling me that i need meds in order to function properly and i will have to take them for the rest of my life. they mainly say this concerning my moodswings, which can be quite severe and very often. i have tried therapy for years and basically every other possibility. i exercise daily, eating pattern is restored, i don't drink nor do drugs, mindfulness, breathing exercises and the whole shebang. i try to educate myself and keep my mind going and i can take care of myself pretty well.

but the depression and the moodswings never really improved. they came to the conclusion that it is caused by chemical imbalances in my brain most of the time, and meds are my only option left. i do not feel well overall, but i continuously keep switching from feeling okay to pretty much suicidal in a matter of minutes even. i tried to analyze it, and i have to admit that usually there is not an actual cause or something that triggered it. at least not something one should even give a second thought.

initially i let these psychiatrists put me on any meds. but once i realized the dark side of meds, i could not stop doing research and i got a lot more hesitant and suspicious. and lately i am starting to wonder if i should maybe just leave the med story behind me and find some other way, even though i have no clue anymore. i was given several antidepressants, after that antipsychotics as an addition, then additional meds for the side-effects, then a beta blocker, but all of it lead to no positive results whatsoever and my condition only deteriorated. then they decided to put me on anticonvulsants as they also act as mood stabilizers, and i am on the second one now and it is still complete shit. and i am not sure if you are familiar with anticonvulsants, but it is literally just poison.

For me what's taking me out of it is getting my sleep, I try to get more than 6 hours on schooldays and I sleep maybe 10 when I'm free. I try and eat healthy and drink mostly water, and also make sure to get as much human interaction as possible. I consume inspiring media and culture like classical music, especially harpsichord, and looking at paintings and learning about the past. All of this makes me much more likely to have a happy day rather than a suicidal one

It's also very important to maintain your hygiene, shower every day and fix your hair and skin and take care of yourself generally and you're more likely to go out and seek something, if you feel like shit you're more likely to keep wasting time

The rest is psychological and your own personal journey, I try and take charge of myself by doing what I'm supposed to and using my time towards productive means instead of wasting it for example. That is hard for me but I'm getting better, whatever bad habits you have you should strive to improve and through habituation rewrite the reward centers in your brain

Bookmarked it, cheers. I don't know if you'll get anything new out of it but two interesting podcasts that talked about pizzagate type stuff a bit were:

radio.therightstuff.biz/category/shows/paranormies/

soundcloud.com/florian-geyer-9/mysterium-fasces-episode-1

You should try the Wim Hof method! A lot of people in similar situations - where they have tried everything, like you - have found this helps them. It's basically doing a breathing exercise and taking a cold shower daily.

youtube.com/watch?v=VaMjhwFE1Zw

It is scientifically proven that through this method you can learn to influence your autonomic nervous system as well as hormonal secretions from the bodies different glands bringing you back to balance.

wimhofmethod.com

He has a 10 week course you can download. I think it costs like 200 dollars. Personally I just downloaded it from the pirate bay :p
thepiratebay.org/torrent/16437921/Wim_Hof_Method_Complete

Try it out :)

Eh atleast youre not short, the real confidence killer

Well not for a certain period of time, at least. I am receiving money from the government, but I get the absolute legal minimum so basically you are pretty screwed.

>The biggest key to becoming confident and getting back out there is all mental

as opposed to physical? how could it not be mental?

hahaha i have never heard such trite shit