Greeks vs. Romans thread

Greeks vs. Romans thread

>greeks were superior because of their advancement in the arts and philosophy

>romans superior in their sense of war

more reasons pls

Greeks had Art, Literature, science, and prestige.

Romans had everything Greeks had and more.

Greek logos.

Roman ingenium.

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Greek head.

Roman heart.

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Greek philosophy.

Roman bureaucracy.

Romans were superior in engineering,discipline,colonization and building a functioning society.
Greeks were better at creating memes

Romans didn't have philosophy like the Greeks did, which boils down to culture.

Greek culture was superior to Roman culture. Much of what the Romans had was from the Greeks, but without the cultural prowess behind it, hence why their mythology is not as deep as the Greeks' and why they lacked the philosophical greatness of the Pre-Socratics.

But in politics, Rome was cooler.

>Plucks feathers from a chicken

>Behold I have created a man!

Greece - EU
Rome - USA

Greek culture was free as in freedom. Rome is proprietary.

Romans basically believed that all the Greeks was achieved in science and philosophy, was all that was ever needed and more.

So instead they focused on politics and building shit. Of course, they were wrong, and eventually they devolved into a dictatorship, and then fell apart.

TL;DR: Don't underestimate science and philosophy.

>Greece - EU
>Rome - USA

Good analogy actually.

This. Hellenes even had a variety of distros for you to choose from, and if you didn't like any, you could easily make your own.

Which one was better at institutionalized pederasty?

Basically

>philosophy equals culture
Come the fuck on user. Greeks spent all day jerking each other's cocks and ignoring their wives, making up useless bullshit like mythology and philosophy while the Roman put their time to good use.

>art
>philosophy
>good
lol

DUDE FORMS LMAO

WOW YOU SO SMART PLATO
All greeks were basically autistic faggots

I'd compare Greece to Britain, and Alexander's gains to the British Empire.

Fuck off Plato.

Plato did more harm than good. Fuck neoplatonism

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Reminded that Greece would not reach the wealth it saw before the Roman Occupation until 1920.

Source?

Are you counting the Byzzies as Greeks it Romans?

The Rise and Fall of Classical Greece, Josiah Ober, Princeton.

And that's calculated by looking at the wages of a common laborer in Athens converted into wheat.
During the fourth century B.C., that was about 13-16 liters of wheat a day.

During the Roman Era, 85% of the population was only making subsistance levels (3.5 liters of wheat per day)

>>romans superior in their sense of war

Hardly, the Greeks were the masters of warfare, what the Romans had was a seemingly endless supply of troops. They always lost more than the Greeks when they fought them, but they always made good their losses more quickly than the Greeks could, so eventually they won.

>logistics not being more important than tactics in war

you know being able to raise an army is about as important as it comes to being good at warfare?

Not to start an argument, because I am by no means an expert, but how does that compare with the various citizens of the other city states?

There are a few Roman philosophers, the thing is though, by that time, the Greeks had already established a strong base for the study of philosophy, meaning that there wasn't really a whole lot more that the Romans would've been able to advance in terms of philosophical thought.

There will never be philosophers again who will be considered as great as the Greeks, simply because they did it first, and their teachings are now simply expanded upon and used as groundwork.