Can we have a thread about weird things that happend in history that nobody can explain?
Starting this thread with
>The Roanoke Colony, also known as the Lost Colony, was established on Roanoke Island in late 16th-century
>The colonists disappeared during the Anglo-Spanish War, three years after the last shipment of supplies from England. Their disappearance gave rise to the nickname "The Lost Colony." To this day, there has been no conclusive evidence as to what happened to the colonists.
Huge Network of Mysterious, Man-Made Caves in China
>In 1992, a man in the Chinese village of Longyou pooled his money with his neighbors to buy a water pump and began siphoning out the pond in his village, only to eventually discover that it wasn't really a pond at all, but the flooded entrance to an ancient, man-made cave. Upon investigation, it turned out that, rather than the entrance to Chinese Batman's secret lair, this cave was one in a network of 36 hidden chambers in the area, all dating back to the early Han dynasty, about 2,000 years ago.
>There are no documents whatsoever, at least none that have been discovered, that record the construction or purpose of the Longyou Caves, although the excavation would have been an immense, government-contracted project involving the movement of 900,000 cubic meters of rock. This is especially odd considering the ancient Chinese were meticulous record-keepers.
Wyatt Hall
It's likely there was a massacre by Indians who dumped the bodies into the river.
My biggest unanswered question: what caused the Maya to decline?
Samuel Martinez
The medieval snail meme, which remains unexplained.
Jeremiah Howard
Mayan civilization wasn't united under one ruler, so decline occurs when periods of war occur.
It seems like the Mayans ironically were terrible at planning. Their societies were a lot more chaotic than similar European societies.
Andrew Flores
I don't think it was a massacre or a mystery because in the Croatan tribe suddenly had some blonde haired blue eye'd injuns with names like "John"
Sounds like somewhere to hide when the Northern Barbarians come knocking to me.
Joseph Reyes
I would kill to know thee orgin of it and who wrote it
Asher Reed
The only text from Atlantis
Adrian Phillips
What are the theories on why? Escape bunker isn't the worst proposal ever but I don't know asian history well.
Wyatt Parker
>Atlantis was in Renaissance Italy I guess that's why we never found the place
Brayden Taylor
Look up Ancient Aliens. It's a fun show
Isaac Ramirez
the pyramids were obviously built by ancient finnish rulers, not aliens
Noah Thompson
i live here, there was a big study a while back saying they fled ~50 miles inland to Bertie county and mixed with friendly indians there, or had a panic fort or something
It's most likely a planned necropolis or tomb complex.
The Qin-Han Dynasty was the last hurrah of extensive underground tomb-making a la egyptian style in China. Just check out the tombs of various Han Emperors, the famous Lady Dai, and Cao Cao's recently excavated tomb. Look at the walls of such tombs and they bear resemblance to how the rocks were cut in the Longyou caves Afterwards it was just meme temples dedicated to ancestors.
Jack Torres
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Ethan Thompson
That's pretty fascinating, it's huge and ancient. However for China caves are a relatively normal thing, they've lived in caves as long as recorded history. Still millions of Chinese live in caves.
Pretty much the whole Amazon forest is apparently man-made
Elijah Barnes
Makes me want to build a kiln out back so I can throw some bone ash in the compost.
Jaxson Hall
You want to talk about Chinese caves and creepy shit? Well here's one that's p. scary.
One of Mao's crazier though (somewhat) sensible projects was to build massive complexes of underground shelters ready for a Nuclear showdown with USA (and then USSR).
These were huge, the size of cities, and connected some of China's major cities with each other. But afterwards the project was abandoned. They're also closed nowadays. But people still regularly enter and do lord knows fucking what within them. The one in Beijing though is pretty inhabited by small shops, brothels, and gambling dens.
Oliver Thompson
Same as the USA. And the USSR. And the UK. So...? They act like a normal state with nuclear weapons.
The cave gap is not a joke.
Benjamin Fisher
Except US and UK bunkers are pretty much policed?
Also these werent meme tunnels but large spaced cut underground. And the chinks left it to people without bothering to seal em off.
Jeremiah Ortiz
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg >there was some space battle over earth at one point >but due to the fact it happened in a time where we can't clearly document things it's now nothing more than a myth that no one will believe
Bentley Campbell
>pyramids, which take a long time to build, were built by the Finns who had recently gained autism
Adam Martinez
That's true.
But in terms of tunneling, the weird thing about China is that these tunnels are only obscure, not secret.
>pro-tip >before electricity there was a lot more ball lightning
Go over to South America and you'll see this thing quite often
Hunter Robinson
she was chopped in half
Nathaniel Brooks
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Gabriel Hill
Just who the hell was he and how did he get away with it?
Anthony Walker
>Be serial killer >Be careful >Have simple MO: shoot people It's the weird as fuck SAW-tier serial killers that really get caught.
Michael Watson
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Cooper Ross
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Ryder Jones
Saved
Josiah Gray
>what kinda country you want senpai
Mason Barnes
> I want to be a cavalryman, as my father was
Christopher Collins
Dancing Plague There is still zero explanation.
Lucas Fisher
That one boat on Bouvet Island.
Oliver Gray
This is just a shitty urban legend/
Nicholas Martinez
What's the story?
Easton Reed
There is abandoned boat un that island. Nobody knows why it is here.
Liam Carter
wasn't he just a liar?
Austin Wood
They found the horse and secret room where he was contained so he could be more than just a simple liar.
Elijah Miller
The PRC and USSR put a lot more effort into civil defense.
NATO more or less figured everyone was fucked if the bombs started flying.
Juan Fisher
But that's just a lifeboat left behind by the Norvegia expedition. Trust me, I know. I'm norwegian.
Justin Bell
Nazca Lines Dyatlov Pass Incident Tunguska Event How, specifically, humans made the leap from groups of illiterate ape clans to the first civilizations with literature and religious conviction
Samuel Gomez
gaikowksi did it.
Ethan Hughes
>humans made the leap from groups of illiterate ape clans to the first civilizations with literature and religious conviction To call it a leap is a bold lie.
Jaxon Rodriguez
The "transition" then, you know what I mean.
Gavin Bell
>conlanging makes you a schizophrenic please
Juan King
Not so much as figured out as misled heavily by anti-nuclear factions in western society. An example:
>Claim that nuclear war is unsurvivable >Interfere with attempts to make it survivable >Make it unsurvivable
Luke Ward
They can just check KnowYourMeme
Lucas Roberts
> Dyatlov Pass Incident Just camping gone wrong > Tunguska Event Meteor or meteorite.
Joseph Young
ITT:
Owen Walker
>Just camping gone wrong m8 people don't just tear themselves out of their own tent and wander into the snow by accident, also the radioactivity is unexplained
Henry Baker
Undressing, wandering into snow - Paradoxical hypothermia + delirium from any number of reasonable, natural causes Broken bones - avalanche, normal hiking accident Missing bodyparts - scavenging crows, foxes taking out soft tissues Radioactivity - all is normal comrade, nothing to see here
Christian Johnson
Conspiracy explanation: Ruski military secretly tested minor incapacitating agents in the area, unaware that the hikers had ascended to the altitude of their detour. Toxicological analysis was not performed and artificial delirium from any number of agents, BZ for example, are totally plausible as factors influencing skin discoloration and strange behavior, while the reported orange glowing lights in the sky, metal shrapnel and extreme impact wounds are consistent with explosive ordinance distributing chemical bomblets or cluster munition.
Parker Rodriguez
>Radioactivity - all is normal comrade, nothing to see here Not even. Radioactivity is a meme that got thrown into a lot of mysterious stories from the time to make it spookier. Odds are it was just added onto the account later to make it a better story.
Alexander Adams
Its more likely they just assimilated into the native populations.
First time I went through it I got the feeling I felt from other such works since decoded.
I believe it is some form of extremely complicated and thoroughly convoluted language.
Making up a language is fun, try it yourself!
Andrew Fisher
literally everything in this thread is aliens, how long can they keep denying it
Ian Hernandez
when was LA ever located in South America
Easton Parker
he's saying that women often get chopped up in South America, not that LA is in South America
Liam Howard
>Green children of Woolpit It was proven a hoax, they were most likely Flemish kids that were fleeing from war. The green tinge was from malnutrition. Literally says so in the article
Samuel Watson
What's so spooky about the Dionysian Mysteries? Unless you think they're somehow the work of some terrible dark god.
Joshua Fisher
I desperately want this to be true. If we can make ONE fuckhuge rain forest, we can make more. Forests for everyone!
Carson Reed
wu tang clan aint nothing to fuck with!
Jaxon Martin
They were killed or absorbed by neighboring tribes while probably trying to escape a possible famine.
They carved "Croatoan" into the fence around their old settlement to indicate they were going to Croatoan, a nearby island with friendly Native Americans who would hopefully take them in after a likely massive crop failure (The cities of Manteo and Wanchese on the modern island is actually named after their two allied Native American chiefs, although Wanchese severed his alliance with the English after visiting England and returning home). The reason it was likely crop failure is because they had been instructed to leave a Maltese cross if there was violence causing their departure, but there was no cross and only the word of the place they were going.
After that some were ambushed and killed by Native Americans who were hostile to the tribes that the settlers had been trading with and converting. They stole their possessions and these were traded around the Chesapeake/Pamlico areas. Chief Powhatan actually showed John Smith some of their metal pots and pans he had acquired, which Smith knew must have been of English origin because of their make and the Native American's lack of metal and metalworking techniques. Smith claims that Powhatan says he ordered their deaths, but that may be untrue.
Meanwhile, the others who survived just adapted to living with the friendly tribes. Because the relief fleet returned to Roanoke (years late) right before a storm, they decided to leave and didn't search out Croatoan Island, which they clearly knew about based on their writings. So much time went by without contact from the English in the region that the survivors were probably just adopted by the tribe they had been allied with. This is supported by reported Native Americans with European features in the area decades later.
tl;dr the English totally left & forgot the colonists and they just lived with (or died alongside) their new friends
It is speculation. You can't know for sure that those people went with the natives to the island. You don't know if they breeded with the natives. But muh european features. Those could have come in from a later date. The word Croatoan could have been writen as a warning.
Julian Phillips
Croatoan was actually the name of Hatteras Island before the modern age. And multiple European travelers' accounts confirm the Native Americans in the area of Croatoan claimed to have relocated from Roanoke and had European features. Some even had older forms of English words in their language.
The only reason it's "speculation" is because there are no written accounts from the settlers themselves, for obvious reasons. But the Englishmen of the relief fleet admitted they didn't bother to search for them, and that they had a clear indication of where the settlers had gone. The people did not just disappear, and that is attested to by later Europeans and the oral history of the Native Americans of Croatoan themselves. It's not rocket science to piece this together.
Christian White
What's with Juana Maria? Nothing mysterious about it
Zachary Morgan
She was alone for 20 years comrade.
James James
I know, that's hardcore and her mental health must have suffered really bad. But that's no mystery, if so, "savage childrens" and hermits are mystery too