Is Lee Kuan Yew the role model for a good authoritarian society?

Who is Antonio Salazar

Some failure who turned a Western European empire into a third-world country.

>Somalia is Freedom
Somalia is a socialist country in a civil war.

Now why don't you go to North Korea?

>Somalia is a socialist country in a civil war.

No it's not. Socialism is when the workers own the means of production which doesn't happen in Somalia.

What you are seeing in Somalia is a libertarian paradise.

We were even more of a third-world country before him. Portugal's been descending ever since the Iberian Union, honestly.

>the tankies on the left

Oh come off it, almost every revolutionary Left regime has engaged in state violence against "counter-revolutionaries".

It's bizarre how Trotskyites just ignore their namesake's bloody career in the Cheka

>Socialism is when the workers own the means of production which doesn't happen in Somalia.
While I agree with that definition, to most of the world socialism is when a government provides services to the citizenry via taxation under the threat of force.

>What you are seeing in Somalia is a libertarian paradise.
Islamic fundamentalists fighting one recognized state and two unrecognized states formed from postcolonial confusion is not libertarianism.

I consider any defender of the Soviet Union a "tankie" 2bh, so I was apparently using a broader definition of the term than you are. Certainly Trotsky would have been worse in a lot of ways than even Stalin.

>MFW Veeky Forums is filled with cucks
Enjoy living as slaves, you pigs in human clothing.

But don't you feel like some force was necessary for the country to go from a shit hole to actually good?

May not be an argument, but a growing amount of Libertarians seems to think it is not only about the lack of state but also race, religion and/or culture to make a libertarian society work.

>Wants rigid firm rules to keep everyone in order
>Wants a big strong authority to control him
>Calls others a cuck.

Shitposting aside, I do kind of admire Singapore for what it is. Wouldn't want to live there though.

Has that style of government ever worked aside from Singapore?

Not that forceful, but SK, Taiwan, Japan, and China.

East Asians just have a knack for it.

It worked pretty great for Muslims as well until recently, including in Southeast Asia.

>a growing amount of libertarians are aspies

Fixed

Unfortunately unlike in Singapore, where Yew's successors continues on his path, Salazar's successors have worked their hardest to drive Portugal into poverty and slavery

PAP is a fucking joke now that LKY is gone.

Early Lee Kuan Yew knew he had holes in his expertise that needed filling such as his economic plosives being mainly from his advisors and economists (he studied law).

Late LKY surrounded himself with yes men more often.

Oh god this have you seen Portugal's state pre-Salazar. Question and criticize his policies as much as you want but his predecessors were utter shit.

That's sheer bullshit.

Singapore had infrastructure from the Brits and was a British colony.

Singapore was also a fucking trade port.

LKY only built from that foundations.

British Colony. LKY meddled in Malaysian politics and was mildly successful, that's why Singapire was kicked out. Tou are right about the last part and completely missed out the political jomogenity and the excessive force needed to maintain it.

He only listened to them when it suited him. The merger with Malaysia was never going to work, as is forced conscription, but of course the leading economist on his team told him that and he didn't listen.

Again, sources are from the two fucking books he wrote.

>LKY only built from that foundations.

Bullshit.

Singapore when the British left was a decaying colonial port, nothing more than a way station on the Indian Ocean trade route. Its population lived in poverty and was largely illiterate; Jamaica had a higher GDP than Singapore.

LKY literally built the country from scratch.

>LKY literally built the country from scratch.

I hate the Eternal Anglo as much as anyone, but come on.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Singapore#1819.E2.80.931963

No.
Authoritarianism is just more practical when you've only got to stop a single city dissenting.

I'll give you decaying port. But it was still a very important way station. The Eternal Anglo also left behind a fuck ton of infrastructure. Phone lines, roads, sewage, the entire port that was the reason for colonizing in the first place and why the Japanese captured Singapore in WW2.

At best, you can say the "diplomatic successes" of Singapore did a lot of good. But for fuck's sake, do not buy into the PAP memes that Singapore was a backwater fishing village. I will fucking beat you over with actual archeology proving that Singapore was a thriving port city in the 14th century and was probably the centre of the spread of Islam during that time as well.

>wants to lick boot from some "tough" big dude
>accuses those who don't want to bow down as being "cucks"

lmaoing @ ur life familia

Authoritarianism will never acknowledge universal goodness.

Ask another non question.

I can just pinpoint where I used to live in those panoramas.

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For one thing there's freedom of Speech in Singapore. You only get shitcanned when you spout racist/religiously intolerant shit because it counts as disturbing the peace in a city state that is professedly multiethnic.

Actually, that's a complete fucking lie.

Hate speech is also illegal under the First Amendment. But Singapore goes even further than that.

J.B. Jeyaratnam: Fucking sued as soon as he lost the 1997 elections. They even took it to the Brits, who threw the case out. For running as an opposition MP.

Chee Soon Juan: This fucking cunt of a man has had most of his entire adult life ridiculed for criticizing the PAP. He was also jailed multiple times for the same thing.

Roy Ngerng: This retarded Alex Jones-level tinfoil fuckface gets sued for criticizing the CPF, admittedly in an extremely one-sided comparison that says it's a bad investmwnt but spun to imply PAP corruption.

Amos Yee: Edgy teen gets prison sentence, forced psychiatric "treatment" and not even protection due of him because he criticized the PAP in an edgy teenaged way. Also drew old people fucking.

Catherine Lim: Singapore's most famous literary export gets sued repeatedly for criticizing the PAP. These lawsuits do not even make the news.

Seeing a pattern here?

>mfw too many retards are talking about sg when they clearly never live here

>Country was so poor it was kicked out of Malaysia
retard alert. This country was richer and more stable than msia even back then

>wanting to live free means being a cuck

Only China actively seeks to emulate. Say what u will of the others, they have an actual democracy while we don't

Lies. Singapore was a highly valuable location even if its port is shitty or not

What year is that?
Somalia isn't libertarian, it's more feudalistic.

Dude, I fucking live here. I know what I'm talking about.

I will even fucking posts links to the CLEARLY BIASED AND PROPAGANDISTIC news articles from the state-owned media.

Which user are you, senpai?

I am
And I'm pretty happy to add even more. I will even fucking pastebin the relevant laws from the CONVENIENT ONLINE REPOSITORY OF EVERY LAW IN SINGAPORE if asked.

Sorry senpai I didn't call you a retard

go son. am interested.

What would you like to know.

the CONVENIENT ONLINE REPOSITORY OF EVERY LAW IN SINGAPORE