So we can all agree that nation states wont exist in 300 years right?

so we can all agree that nation states wont exist in 300 years right?

Human beings won't exist in 300 years.

Nation states will always exist. It is the most natural model for a nation and has been since almost the beginning of time.

>Nation states have existed since the beginning of time

That isn't what I said.

Nations won't exist in 300 years.

Of course not. The rise of Anal Birth will erode away such obsolete concepts.

No op, we can't. No one knows the future.

what is a nation anymore? Your fellow national is more and more likely to be of a different race, speak another language and have a different culture and fundamentally different political views. At that point your only common thing is a flag

without major wars to bind everyone together I Just don't see nation states lasting too much longer

No
Nation states are incredibly unnatural and modern

>. It is the most natural model for a nation and has been since almost the beginning of time.

Hopefully not.

Emphasis on almost

And even that's wrong

nation-state is a solecism. The nation will live even if the enlightenment abstraction of "the state" dies.

How so? Kingdoms such as the Hittites were just that. A kingdom composed of a people who spoke a similar langauge and had similar religious beliefs. A nation state can be considered an extension of tribes and tribal organization which is the most basic social structure where people cluster around with others who are similar.

>this thing is the one that seems the most natural and logical to me because that's the only one I grew up with and therefore the only one I actually have some understanding of
>ergo, it is objectively the most natural and logical thing and everything else is stupid and makes no sense
>trump.jpg

So we can all agree that this thread doesn't belong on Veeky Forums right?

Nations are the fantasy of the impotents.

Then the Hittites got crushed and replaced by multi-ethnic empires like the Persians or the Romans which would go on to split into a multitude of kingdoms chiefly divided on religious grounds rather than any concept of nationhood.

So whats's next?

Gommunism.

>Veeky Forums full of globalists

First 5 minutes on this board and I can already tell this is just where the liberals run to after they get bullied on /pol/.

>liberals
You're in for a surprise if you think liberals are the height of what you're going to see here.

Yes, Europe will degenerate into some sort of oligarchic empire with a mongrelized Euro-Arabian populace.

Local communities > Abstract Nation-states >>>> Abstract globalist-state

Seriously who the fuck is this dude?

>advanced technology is nice
>self-organization into higher units is bad, even though it enables standardization and the spread of knowledge in the first place
Pick one.

How were the Hittites a nation state? Sure there were different nations apart from the Hittite one inside the state.

Most states are now culturally heterogenous, and arguably nation-states are already disappearing.

this picture is disgusting... dunno why

it's really not, it's just not an echo chamber like the one you're used to.

Yes. It's time for neo-feudalism. The almost total privatization of everything, even the state and the three powers. But in this feudalism of the new era great warriors will be substituted by the economic elites, and the control over agrarian lands by the control over imaginary digital money. With small portions of this digital money the powerful lord-businessmen will buy the loyalty of private armies and security forces that will usurp and substitute the weakened and castrated states. In exchange of "protection" this private armies will force the masses to work the lord-businessmen in a situation of semi-slavery. Pornography, cinema, party clubs and sport matches will be the basis for the "religion" that will tame this slaves. Unimportant issues like feminism, racism or veganism will distract everyone and prevent them from detecting the real problem.

Veeky Forums is full of /pol/ and lefty/pol/ it's a terrible board where you can't discuss history because people are too busy making shitty meme threads like this or want to discuss Islam/Christianity over and over and over
Fuck this shit board

don't let the door hit your ass on the way out

Didn't say I was leaving you faggot, just voicing my complaints with this shitheap of a board, with it's cancerous, ignoramus retards that post

fuck off, slavoy

they should have never split Veeky Forums

Literally a retarded anglo. Country and State are different things. Nationalism never existed in anglo countries, apart from Scotland and Ireland.

>Scotland and Ireland
>Anglo

I think you're the retarded one mate.

are you retarded

>globalism=leftism
get real kid

It's generally associated with left-wing politics.

Civilization won't last another 100 years.

And if they are living well enough to afford such luxuries, what's the problem?

>Nationalism never existed in anglo country's.

300 days.

Only if you know absolutely nothing about politics.

ITT a bunch of retards getting their wires crossed because they can't agree on a single definition, but everyone feels incredibly smug about his own cherry picked one, which he refuses to describe.

Gee, Veeky Forums aren't you a bunch of pretentious bullshiters.

if meth addicts can afford such luxuries as meth, what's the problem with living in a dirty sewer and getting buttfucked for dimes?

They will be no luxuries (they are not luxuries even today) but easily available and affordable to everyone. Even somewhat "mandatory" to some extent, thanks to social pressure.

Liberty and, more importantly, dignity will be the "luxuries" of this new era available only for the elites. Apart from actual irrelevant prestige goods that will always exist, but what they will actually be is of secondary importance since it won't change much in the big scope if fashionable clothes or diamonds are substituted by other similar stuff.

Eyyy pol why so insecure

pol retard is dissapointrd because his is not retarded like his contaiment safe zone board

I don't see any mention of legal brothels here, that would likely be a key part of getting men to accept such a system.

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>implying we will survive the century as a species

>says the international capitalist

The Baron Harkonnen

>drool must flow

As long as ethnicities exist, desire for nation-states will be there aswell. Maybe if we become a big global brown blob there would be no need for nations.

ayy my nation isn't western european

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>The IMPERIVM remains the true foundation of happiness and harmony.

In Scipio's day, Rome meant a people. In Caracalla's day, Rome meant a population. It's the same in our civilization. Ethnic nation states will not exist in 300 years.

I think I could get in on that.
> Overpopulation
> Resource scarcity
> Secularism giving way to theocracy

If I had to put all this into a stew I would say, there's going to be some kind of brutal atomic war. The survivors will then go on and live in small roaming pockets, subsisting for thousands of years perhaps.
When the world begins to recover, we'll build back up but wont be able to use fossil fuels. If new pre industrial nation states form and have wars and trade with each other it's possible they might come up with some green forms of energy on their own. It's highly unlikely any of the nations we know today will survive this period. I can't see into the future though.

trends in the EU suggest otherwise. National sentiment isn't going anywhere anytime soon

underrated post