Party of the workers

If it is so little work then why not write a comprehensive refutation of Das Capital and make money off it?

I mean it may be heavier than most babies but it can't be that hard right?

yeah, maybe in 1920s Russia, but are you really going to pretend marxist in CURRENT YEAR western world arent a bunch of upper middle class bored college students LARPing? The kind of kid who bitches about not being able to find a job, yet refuses to work construction because "thats for the lowly plebs to work!" as they write about how the evil bourgeoisie must be stopped on the new apple laptop their dad bought them? As they shit post on the privately owned website?

>apple laptop
Why do class traitors have this weird fixation on communists using Apple?

I mean it's obvious Linux is the true proletarian operating system.

>Why do class traitors

why do rich kids think saying autistic LARP shit like this magically doesnt make them rich kids?

You seem to have some bizarre fantasy that all communists are cartoonishly elitist hipsters but really I do not think there is anyone on the planet in the situation you're describing.

>You seem to have some bizarre fantasy that all communists are cartoonishly elitist hipsters

because they are. Its just a game for fringe weirdo rich kids to play pretend

Maybe you've heard of this lad

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Engels

I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of the world's communists come from the third world.

Hell, even the sole militant communist group in the USA is also a black nationalist group. And black people aren't exactly famous for being rich and privileged.

Is summer over yet ?

But Engels wasn't elitist at all. And I don't think hipsters, laptops or Veeky Forums existed yet.

>Engels' interests included poetry, fox hunting, and hosting regular Sunday parties for London's left-wing intelligentsia where, as one regular put it, "no one left before two or three in the morning." His stated personal motto was "take it easy", while "jollity" was listed as his favourite virtue.

>I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of the world's communists come from the third world.
>Hell, even the sole militant communist group in the USA

except I specifically specified I was talking about the types from America dumbass.

and communist in third world countries are always desperate fucks who are promised the world by opportunistic rich people who want to be the new king. Castro was the son of some wealthy plantation owner for example.

Sounds like a cool guy.

>except I specifically specified I was talking about the types from America dumbass.
If you say so, and even then clearly the most radical communists in America are black and probably not all too rich.

>and communist in third world countries are always desperate fucks who are promised the world by opportunistic rich people who want to be the new king. Castro was the son of some wealthy plantation owner for example.
1. Recent third world communist movements are actually quite democratically minded and critical of Marxism-Leninism as practiced throughout the 20th century.
2. Castro pretty much delivered on his promises tbqh.

>If you say so,

I did say so. You getting all pissy doesnt make it not true

>and even then clearly the most radical communists in America are black and probably not all too rich.

no they arent. You of course wouldnt know this because you never spend any time around black people in your gated community

>Recent third world communist movements are actually quite democratically minded and critical of Marxism-Leninism as practiced throughout the 20th century.

MUH SUPER SPECIAL BRAND OF COMMUNISM! still means they cant afford food and live in a corrupt shitty third world country

> Castro pretty much delivered on his promises tbqh.

thats why cubans risk their lives and try to float over to Florida on pieces of trash to live in the evil capitalist america.

>Scratch a conservative and you find someone who prefers the past to any future. Scratch a liberal and you find a closet aristocrat.

I don't read "helped in soup kitchens" or "despised elitist hedonist bourgeoisie life" anywhere in that
Certainly doesn't seem the working-class-warrior kind of guy

>I did say so. You getting all pissy doesnt make it not true
ctrl+f "america"
First mention
ctrl+f "USA"
First mention
>no they arent. You of course wouldnt know this because you never spend any time around black people in your gated community
Actually they are
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guerrilla_Family
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_left-wing_rebel_groups
The only active communist rebel group in the USA is also black nationalist.
>MUH SUPER SPECIAL BRAND OF COMMUNISM! still means they cant afford food and live in a corrupt shitty third world country
1. There's more than one interpretation of communism and always has been. This is not news.
2. That's all the more reason why they should hate capitalism.

>thats why cubans risk their lives and try to float over to Florida on pieces of trash to live in the evil capitalist america.
You can emigrate to America legally and a lot of them choose not to.

To quote the man himself
>take it easy
This is solid advice that everyone could do with applying to their life.

Engels being a visionary of everything once again.

>"Probably the intellectual has more difficulty than the common man in freeing himself from this ideology which, like the State which derives from it, is his especial handiwork. The Soviet government rules in the name of a doctrine elaborated by an intellectual whose life was spent in libraries and interpreted for the past century by countless other intellectuals. Under a Communist régime the intellectuals, sophists rather than philosophers, rule the roost. The examining magistrates who unmask deviations, the writers coerced into socialist realism, the engineers and managers who are supposed to execute the plans and to interpret the ambiguous orders of the central authority—all must be dialecticians. The Secretary-General of the Party, master and arbiter over the lives of millions of men. is also an intellectual: at the end of a triumphal career he offers to the faithful a theory of capitalism and socialism—as though a book represented the highest accomplishment. The emperors of old were often poets or thinkers; for the first time the emperor actually reigns qua dialectician, interpreter of the doctrine and of history."

Raymond Aron, The Opium of the Intellectuals

tldr: Intellectuals are communists because communist rule gives power to intellectuals.

Asking why such people are so hard into communism is like asking why priests are so into Christianity, instead of all those poor people whose life would improve if people followed the egalitarian morality of the New Testament.

In raising you, your mother did a lot of work. It's hard raising a boy on the spectrum. But she can't make money off it because society doesn't want retards like you.

Just because it's a lot of work doesn't mean you can make money from it.

Pretty sure there's a lot of money to be made in retarded critiques of communism tbqhwyl

>First mention

Its right here you retarded faggot lol.

>in CURRENT YEAR western world

oh wow, a handful of literally who black groups. This totally doesnt mean communist in the west arent all rich college kids playing a make believe revolutionaries. I guarantee you have never been in a fight or have even seen a gun IRL and the thought of working a blue collar job around some mean regular joe 6 pack guy makes your stomach hurt.

So just sit back in daddies house while you play on his computer and get mad at me for calling you out.

The Black Guerilla family isn't really communist. They preach Maoism but are really more concerned with racial fascism. Plus they're a criminal organization, who've always had dubious commitment to their ideals at best.

>implying fascism isn't the stage after communism has failed.

>I specifically specified I was talking about the types from America dumbass.
>specifically
>western world
Doesn't sound like specifically referencing America to me, m8.

>rest of the post
Not an argument.

>Doesn't sound like specifically referencing America to me, m8.

america is part of the western world. You are a pretentious loser who cant accept he was wrong on the internet so you are stubbornly pretending to be retarded

Is that specifically referring to America?

fascism is the actual thing communist (upper class elitist) pretend to be.

>doubling down on your autism and arguing semantics

lol you lost an internet argument and are getting upset

NOT

"Take it easy"? Not contribute to society through hard labour and be an elitist exploiter of the workers who has no regard for the proletariat?

To the gulag you go lad

>Enjoying poetry and partying hard is exploition or elitist.
>The point of communism isn't to do as little work as is necessary

if you are not baiting op read 1984 by george orwell. you will understand the fight of class, how propaganda work, and the fundamental difference between communism/socialism and collectivist oligarchy. it will probably change your view of the world too. and its a really good story.

>abusing the fruit of the labour of the proletarian and using its product to acquire leisure in an attempt to ignore the suffering of the common man
>implying that the reduction of labour and enjoyment to all shouldn't only happen when true communism is achieved

>marxism is a utopian ideology
Then why does academia continue to let it influence them to this day

>taking it easy and sharing on the other hand are right in line with what humans like to do.
Ah yes that's why the cavemen and hunter-gatherer tribes were so peaceful

>Implying any abuse is happening here except the expropriation of labour from the proletariat by the bourgeoisie
>Implying we don't already have the technology for reduction of labour and maximization of enjoyment and haven't for about 200 years now making the attainment of communism only as far away as it takes for people to be convinced they're getting scamed by the bourgeoisie.

This entire board has morphed into an absolute cesspool.

That's because you showed up.

>implying that expropriation of labour isn't opression
>implying such expropriation isn't being used for frivolous and elitist purposes
>implying that humanity has had a true shot at communism in the last 100 years
>implying that the road to communism isn't a long and hard fought one before stabilizing society and bringing all of humanity to equal levels
>implying implications

>the most radical communists in America are black
Alright I'm gonna assume you aren't from or have ever been to America if you think a majority of American communists are black. Communists in America are rare, black communists are even rarer. Poor blacks aren't communists it's college educated blacks that typically come from a middle or upper class household. Poor blacks who worked through or got a scholarship for college are ardent capitalsits

They key waulifier was radical. As in communists that are actively taking up arms.

And I was mainly referring to the black guerilla family, on the count they formed basically as a prison gang I doubt they're too rich or privileged.

So you're stuck in the 60's?

>insists I'm an unemployed virgin based on one post I've made
>thinks this is an argument

No, part of my point is the black guerrilla family are the only radical communist group left and they're not even that big.

just because you can't make a lot of money off of it doesn't mean it isn't work (OPs initial claim), my goalpost-shifting friend.

I've said this before, but if this image really represented a smart transition to capitalism they would have put the statue in a museum and charged people ticket price to see it.

Oooooh, my bad, I thought you were saying black guerrilla family as a catch all term for different black guerrilla groups not referring to the Black Guerrilla Family

Good one bro!

Not the guy you're responding too, but I really hate all these communism and marxism threads. These people are so stupid I'm close to considering Marxism is a mental health problem

Gorbachev grew up and worked on a fucking farm driving combines before he went to a state university where he joined the party. I'd say that qualifies as not being "elite"

>party of the workers
>the only people who are part of it are elitest fart smellers

Well maybe you should take a look at workers partys that werent all controlled by moscow...
"real socialism" was a fucking jokethat was highly hypocritical...just take some examples from pre-45 or have a look at smaller movements today

Without Marx, the world would have been objectively better in the 20th century.

>tfw Marx was so awesome he was too good for this species

Without Marx someone else would have invented communism, it's not exactly an unintuitive conclusion from an analysis of capitalism grounded in 19th century economics.

Hell a lot of people around the same time reached similar conclusions to Marx independently. Had Marx not existed there would probably still be quasi-communist revolutions, just in the name of the teachings of Proudhon or something.