Why shouldn't women be fined and jailed for dressing provocative?

Alright, you don't care if I'm discomforted?

Fine then, give me your address and don't call the cops when I punch you in the face if you want to be logically consistent and fair.

Why should they?

What he's saying is that if I wore a shirt tomorrow that said "I hate niggers", people would be pissed. And they have every right to be discomforted by my shirt.

But if a woman wears a dress that says "here's the goods, feel free to windowshop" I'm a bad guy for getting a boner even if it's a physiological reaction. And while I'm not going to stare at this person, I'm not going to crane my neck and further inconvenience themselves to "respect" them when they know they damn well could have worn a blank tee and jeans.

I'm not going to leave my home in a leather speedo, some fuzzy cuffs, and "Ass pirate" tattood on my back. There are implications. But because of specific, cultural institutions, I'll be in the wrong if I do what I do. But if she does what she does, she's just expressing herself.

I mean I don't agree with him wholesale on it, and these examples are about as much of a stretch as that tiny pink dress, but come the fuck on.

And no, this isn't a wider political narrative about banning shit: It's about mutual convenience and how it's arbitrarily policed day-to-day.

You seriously think that not raping scantily clad women is equivalent and remotely comparable to being punched in the face?

Are you 12 or possibly from Florida?

I'm right upstairs in your mom's room. Come at me faggot I'll be calling for paramedics to come pick you up not cops.

Nobody thinks you are a bad guy for having a boner or being attracted to the woman. It's more about the "she's asking for it" mentality.

Women got rights now homie, try not to get so defensive about it and go jack off in a sock.

Where did I say I was going to rape a woman?

Let's break this down and make it clear so even you can get it:

Women dress provocatively when they can easily dress modestly.

I am bothered by them dressing provocatively.

Why shouldn't they dress modestly?

Why does it bother you?

She's asking for it when she's in a public place and I can't give it to her.

I didn't say you were going to rape anyone either. You were just saying a second ago that you were frustrated because you want to "pierce" them with your dick or whatever but you can't. So then, you are uncomfortable because you can't fuck them. Maybe you didn't mean rape. If you meant consensual sex what is so hard about that. Why can't you fuck them?

Why can't you give it to her? Do you just not know how to talk to women?

>wants to base law on his hurt feefees
>calls others limp dicked

Did you see the OP?
a) I'm a nigger
b) I'm ugly
c) I'm fat

The trifecta of trouble I call it.

Read the above post.

Also even assuming she says yes, sometimes I just want to go shopping at the store or reading at the library or playing at the park w/o being getting all hot and bothered. Save it for the club or other designated places.

move to a muslim country you commie faggot. This is America and we have casual sex here. get over it or learn arabic

Then she's obviously not "asking for it" from YOU. You're admitting this much. So why are you uncomfortable again?

You are just some retarded kid that watches too much porn, straight up. If you are getting stiffies from every young girl in short shorts at the library, I don't know what to tell you son. Stop jerking off so much.

Man don't be a cunt. If you're in the states go start swimming til your knees can handle other kinds of cardio. Unless they can, in which case; you're a hell of a lot less likely as a man to ever be fat(the hormones that make you froth at sluts also eat fat)

As long as I can have my boner, I'm good. And I'm very aware of the mentality and it's criticisms. My main point is again, that people police these things arbitrarily and I'm in the right for lookin at titties if they happen to be out on somebody's own volition.

What if someone is turned on by modestly dressed women?

Provocative dress is entirely subjective.

There asses and cleavage are in my peripheal even if I don't try to look, if they're not asking for it from me then why are they dressing like a slut in public where everyone can see it, myself included?

It's easier for them to dress modestly than it is for me to deny a basic strong urge (sex/masturbation).

This is true, but I was also given risperidal when I was younger which caused me to go from six-pac to inflatable belly.

4/5 star post niggah!

To that post my response would be "If more people are turned on by modestly dressed women than are turned on by provocative dressed women then i'll suffer the minority, but if not..."

>Why shouldn't women be fined and jailed for dressing provocative?
Because they have the rights to wear what they want, within set limits which apply to men and women, atleast here.
If you get a boner from a good looking woman in cloths that show some skin, you have problems.

Oh, you're one of those mentally challenged folk who just recite what the current laws are without justifying them, thinking that that answers the question.

Fly a kite.

Hey man, as long as you admit that you're a raging mudslime that can only stop himself from raping women if they're covered from head to toe. There are mental health professionals who could talk you through steps to stop being such a sperg.

Well, it happens to be the answer for the question for me.
I'm fine with the current rules about clothing here. Why must I be mentally challenged if I don't mind the laws?

I know those autismal feels my brother. I know them too well.

Where did I say I was going to rape a woman?

The reading comprehension on this board is abysmal.

/Why/ do they have the right to wear what they want, even if it intensely inconveniences me?

>/Why/ do they have the right to wear what they want, even if it intensely inconveniences me
Because they are humans in a "free" country.
If you don't like it, go to Saudi Arabia.

Calling people autistic when they're not showing any true signs of autism just makes you look like an idiot, doubly so for using the autist meme that every other tool uses, triply so for using the grammatically incorrect meme version of 'feeling', quadrupally so for disagreeing with me without giving at least a somewhat reasonable argument in response.

Control your urges. You can't be going muh dick at every women you see, modest or not. It's 2016, it's easy as hell to get laid.

Break it all the way fucking down bro.

Why should this country have such a freedom?

Since I get the feeling you're going to keep going in circles, let me answer the question for you.

This country shouldn't have such a freedom. The way we decide what to do is which action provides the most pleasure and least pain, with priority being on avoiding pain and then secondarily getting pleasure. This is called utilitarianism.

The loss of pleasure you get from not seeing provocative dressed women isn't as bad as the gain of pain I get from seeing them so /that's-why/ women don't have the freedom to wear what they want even if it intensely inconveniences me.

You said that women are asking for sex, at all times, and you said that you wanted to have sex with them right there in public. Forgive me if you ignoring a woman's agency in sexual interactions is the obvious conclusion I drew from that.

How the fuck do I stop having these urges? And why should I eliminate these urges (which are beneficial during times when I can get laid) instead of women simply dressing modestly?

I do 'control' my 'urges' if by that you mean I shouldn't rape them, because I don't rape them. I control 'myself'*, not my urges.

Also, more importantly, how do I get laid?

All because they are asking for sex doesn't mean they are asking for sex from a) me and b) at that time and c) at that place

Bakana ;)

So why don't you agree that women should dress modestly?

"...they're asking for sex a) from me b)..." *

>How the fuck do I stop having these urges?
Stop being a neckbeard.

...

Risperidal treats psychosis, bipolar, and irritability. The discomfort he likely gets if he actually needed it, is probably a lot more than your random person because of the radical effect these things can have on your mood and perception. It's as physiological as popping a boner in the first place for him to have more hurdles to jump over before he reaches self control, you cheeky fuck. A basic google search could have told you everything it told me.

Though you'd do well to understand your position a bit better, if you do suffer these symptoms. You're more prone to act out and feel strongly about things if your perception of them is affected by any of these symptoms. And you should understand anxiety very personally. So if a woman dresses in a way because it might make her feel good to look good, if she feels like she's being threatened because women baseline are often more anxious then men. They have a myriad of reasons to feel more anxiety about possible external threats do, just because of the nature of our sexual dimorphism. Just because of the same shit that makes you pop a boner and makes it easier for you to lose weight makes them naturally anxious. Why not be cognizant of this?

Better yet: Turn the other cheek and get your ass one of those Borat swimsuits. If you look like how you feel, they'll understand full-stop how uncomfortable dressing certain ways can make other people feel.

Resperidal treats symptoms that are literally caused by autism. Which I literally also have. Which makes it easier to project onto other people and see if they fit the model. To me, I can spot specific behaviors like his extremely personal sense of what he's empathetic to. Though that could be other things. I'm just assuming that the diagnosis was right and he grew out of the behaviors(most of us do) that would warrant an anti-psychotic.

No, it's you being a fucking nigger that rapes girls because they showed their ankle.

>How the fuck do I stop having these urges?
Cut your dick off.

>And why should I eliminate these urges
Because you're not supposed to be a monkey, even though people are primates.

Because I believe that people should (and they do) have the right to express themselves via their clothing however they want to.
Yes, that includes wearing a shirt saying "I hate niggers." That shirt isn't harming anyone, and violence against that person is not justified.

Fuck, that middle paragraph is butchered now that I look at it.

Basically they have a lot of reasons to be anxious about something they're likely otherwise doing for very personal reasons. They want to feel and look good but they don't want to be on the meat menu for doing something that has very little to do with what you say it implies.

You'd have a better time, on Veeky Forums and off, if you posted better.

You'd feel better about yourself, you'd get better responses, and you'd get good karma.

>>>I can't control myself
>>therefore we should punish other people
>>claims not to be limp dicked
says the girl who cannot control her desire to dress slutty knowing fully that men likes it and that pleasing men is the sole purpose of these outfits, since these outfits are utterly discomfortable.

>>>/reddit/

And stay there, you piece of shit

Are you going to stop posting in circles anytime soon?

/Why/ "should they have the right to express themselves via their clothing however they want to"?

If you're actually black you're confirming all of my /pol/ opinions right now. Nigger.

>says the girl who cannot control her desire to dress slutty knowing fully that men likes it and that pleasing men is the sole purpose of these outfits, since these outfits are utterly discomfortable.

Yes, it is to please men, just not any man.
You know what? If you weren't a fucking disgusting creep she wouldn't mind if you looked at her.

Because the only people that it is harming are the mentally disturbed, like yourself. The overwhelming majority of the population can restrain themselves from being provoked to crime by clothing.

Are you saying that legislation should be made precisely to cater to your personal feelings?

>Are you saying that legislation should be made precisely to cater to your personal feelings?
Why shouldn't it?

Also I'm also able to restrain myself from committing a crime (rape) by clothing, but I'd rather not have to suppress those urges.

How am I mentally disturbed btw?

But most of us choose to be cognizant of the reaction the shirt would evoke. And while saying "should" in this situation is basically worthless because it legitimizes every other "should" in this thread; I don't think it's in your interest to be so utterly contrarian on the issue or race in America. I think it would be in your best interests to be aware of the consequences if you choose to be so anyways. Still, wearing the racist T shirt is technically self expression, if not a form of hate speech.

Likewise, women basically take a leap of faith(that they won't be stared at like food, molested, or raped) off of the idea that self expression is an uninfringible right.

But to expect people to react violently to one, and say they shouldn't to another, if the racist tee and the stringy dress are both grouped under freedom of expression, would be be hypocritical.

The only thing you're being is stubborn. They're fucking with you.

Suppressing your urges to commit crimes against other citizens is what allows the rule of law to be maintained. The rule of law allows each citizen to, within what has been agreed by legislators, attempt to do with their own life what they see fit.

You're mentally disturbed because you pop a boner every time a woman shows her knees in public.

>reduced velocity of currency
>in exchange, you have slightly lower amount of stds and early children among the shit eating bottom class
nty

I don't think that there should be violence towards either one. I recognize that it's more likely that there would be violence against the person wearing the nigger shirt, but I don't think that it's morally justified.

Why should dressing provocative be something that the legislators allow each citizen to do?

Quit typing in circles.

What is wrong with popping a boner when a woman dress provocative?

>What is wrong with popping a boner when a woman dress provocative?
Only 12-15 y/o boys do that, after that they don't have hormones raging through their bodies and don't get excited that fast.

>What is wrong with popping a boner when a woman dress provocative?
nothing as long as you are not non-handsome

The law allows people to dress however they want. Whether that is provocative or not is based upon you.

What exactly is it that you find provocative?

>What exactly is it that you find provocative?
They show ankles and shoulders.

We've established there's nothing wrong with expression, regardless of its insinuation. Your popping a boner is a 1st amendment right.

Too true. But it goes for pretty women getting all the passes as well. Do you think this society has any kind of love for hags, either?

>Do you think this society has any kind of love for hags, either?
I don't like an ugly fat old hag in leggings, but they are allowed to do that, thankfully.

>Why should dressing provocative be something that the legislators allow each citizen to do?
Because where I live is a country of liberty. Wear anything you want, user. Cut jeans shorts, panty hose, or a fucking chicken suit.

Who cares? enjoy life.

You're being an annoying faggot on the internet right now, and causing me severe discomfort.

Thus, people should stop posting on the internet.

Why.should.the.law.allow.people.to.dress.however.they.want?

Do you have bad reading comprehension or are you trolling me at this point?

I find it provocative when women are clearly asking for sex by wearing skin-tight clothes or show cleavage.

How do you know there's nothing wrong with expression?

>>
>Who cares? enjoy life.
yes my goy, be an hedonist

>and hedonist

Is /pol/ illiterate too?

A. Sexually provocative has a different meaning for everyone.

B. Clothing doesn't directly harm anyone else, and is a manner of free expression.

>B. Clothing doesn't directly harm anyone else, and is a manner of free expression.
nice personal opinion

You enjoy fucking with him at this point aren't you?

>when women are clearly asking for sex
They know it's attactive, yes, but it's primarily the self satisfaction of feeling sexy.
This is provocative to you? try asking the next "offender" out. Maybe you'll get laid, be happy, instead of posting this obtuse bullshit.

How does clothing harm anyone else?

you state that what you care about is lack of direct harm. and even better, you want that other people care about this too.

just end your self

He's probably thinking of wearing Sauron's armor. Going on public transport is not a really an option in that case.

Alright user. Explain to us how clothing can harm people.

I want what? Is that thing that came after the comma a sentence?

>directly harm
has a different meaning for everyone.

...

>free expression
has a different meaning for everyone.

>Clothing
has a different meaning for everyone.

Because your discomfort is still small fries compared to what the law protects people from. Because for one, we like the idea that you can wear what you want. Two, it effectively means that you can't be taken off the street for ANYTHING you wear. It's the convenient side effect of a safeguard over authoritarian bullshit. Also, it means the women wearing next to nothing in protest, and the guy wearing the racist sign in protest, are equally protected because both are considered to be self expression by United States case law. And I'm all about that equal protection even if the dude is a dick and the chicks are sluts. I'm not sure about anywhere else though.

...

It's a matter of emotional vs physical harm.
If I wear KKK pajamas then go to a black venue, I'm doing so knowing that will offend and probably emotionally disturb many people. That's not particularly direct in my opinion, almost passive agressive.

The ensuing ass kicking I would receive would in fact be direct harm upon me.

Too excessive, takes them away from duties as mother and wife, I propose 5 lashes instead!

>Do you think this society has any kind of love for hags, either?
god you must be a 20 yo for asking this.

>it's a /r9k/ starts talking bullshit on Veeky Forums episode

Islamophobe detected

I suggest their owner should receive the lashes for allowing them to go out like that.

Every word has a different meaning to everyone else tbqh.