Since when did NASA become a fashion statement for normies who don't give a shit about space or science?

Since when did NASA become a fashion statement for normies who don't give a shit about space or science?
Everywhere I look at my university people are wearing this shit and don't know the first thing about NASA. It's pretty annoying. Saw someone with the shirt, someone wearing a hat with it, and they're all hanging around the dance and history classrooms. They don't care about space.

I like it, might get me one as well, thanks.

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I saw a group of kids at a mall once wearing the bomber jackets but they were brought orange.
All three were wearing the same bright orange bomber with NASA logos. And they were loud and obnoxious high school kids.

I'm curious as well. I see them at my school all the time.

I don't get this. Why would they wear NASA shirts if they don't care about space? I don't get why you'd assume they don't.

I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE BRO

RICK AND MORTY BRO

IM SO SMART AND RELIGOUS PEOPLE SO DUMB LMAO

YEAH I STUDY BUSINESS, BUT I TOTALLY LOVE SCIENCE AND AM SMARTER THAN YOU BRO

ELON MUSK IS THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE

You sound pretty autistic. It's just a piece of clothing with a logo.

the aeronautical engineering / physics were too hard so I spent $60,000 on a degree I could have got at the public library for free starter pack

If you get annoyed by logos on other people's shirts, you probably need to see a therapist.

awww man. I got this great nasa shirt from the 80's or something. don't tell me I can't wear it anymore, I've had it for years.
I also get the daily wallpaper from APOD..
can't a nerd just be a nerd anymore?

This shirt's been on sale at Target for the past couple of years, around 8 bucks I think.

>mrw I own top left
oh god I need to sell that shit right now

What do you do if you just like how the NASA logo looks? I also do think that space exploration is cool but admittedly I don't have a deep interest in it.

>tfw I own a SpaceX shirt and rock the shit out of it

Why do you care? NASA is cool, and im glad that kids have taken a liking to it.

same could be said with a lot of other brands, like how you see all these stacies walking around with yankees caps. its just a logo

This makes the most sense
Usually the simplest answer is the best

nah I live in Europe and we don't have Target here and it's the same shit, it's just memewear for teenagers like Joy Division shirts, that's all

It's a religious thing. Welcome to the 21st century.

>being a traitor not only to your homeland but your home planet

Dude it's just a cool logo that gives a nice feel.

Better than lmaoWeed shirts I guess.

>tfw I get all the SpaceX shirts I want for free since I work there but I can never wear them out because some idiot always has suggestions that we just land the rockets on a pile of inflatable pillows

Can you tell me more about your job?

I'm studying aerospace engineering and my dream is to work at SpaceX because of all the rocket companies that's the one I want to be a a part of most.

Is it true engineers don't get paid much there compared to other places?

It's 6am here and I'm about to go for a long hike so this will be short but if you have further questions and the thread is still up I'll try and answer them later in the day.

I would prefer to not get too detailed about my own position but I have worked in our propulsion R&D and launch/recovery ops groups. What are you looking to know about, that doesn't require me to divulge any personally identifying info?

>Is it true engineers don't get paid much there compared to other places?
Yes and no. Intro pay tends to start off lower than most competing aerospace companies, particularly when factoring in CoL assuming you are in the Hawthorne location. The stock grants we used to receive did a pretty good job of offsetting this difference, assuming you made it to vesting, but as we've grown those grants are nowhere near as generous as they once where for newer hires. Two things tend to happen that can make the lower salary not a huge deal as time passes, first if you can survive the first 2-3 years here you tend to get promoted faster than you would at more established companies. Part of this is due to our smaller size, this was especially true a few years ago, and part is due to the fact that we have fairly high turnover, although this has actually slowed considerably in the last 1-2 years. Secondly, SpaceX looks extremely good on your resume. Some of this is just due to good PR on the part of Elon but good hiring managers, especially in tech on the west coast, know that the workload here can be unforgiving, and that the average employee here probably has a lot more responsibilities to handle than at most competitors. People generally like hiring ex-SpaceX employees, as opposed to say someone from the Lazy B. I've known quite a few people who have gone on to places like Google/FB to earn salaries far higher than what is available in aerospace and who I'm virtually sure wouldn't have been hiring if they had LockMart on their resume as opposed to SpaceX.

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Keep in mind though that LA is a fairly expensive place to live, especially if you don't already have a large savings or if you are trying to start a family. I certainly don't want to give the impression that pay doesn't matter, or that you shouldn't get the most that the market is willing to pay, but I'm generally of the opinion that the first 2-4 years, sometimes even longer depending on the circumstances, of your career shouldn't place much priority on salary. Depending on how well those first few years go you can more than make up lost wages through better opportunities later on. Everyone needs to decide this for themselves though.

Again, let me know if you have any other questions, I'll check back later today.

Thanks man.
What kind of education did you get for the job there? Mech engineering or aerospace or something different? My delcared major right now is mechanical engineering but I'm just taking mostly generals so I could easily change to aerospace if that would be the better choice.
What kind of stuff can I be doing now as a student to set me up for getting a job at SpaceX or a rocket company in the future? My dream is to do R@D of new engines, specifically.

at least people are pretending

t. physics grad student

"Why do people wear things they think look good aesthetically but don't spend hours researching what the organization behind the companies do? UGH SO A AANNOYING!"


please sage this thead

Get this instead :^)

Apparently only STEM memesters count as nerds these days.

Irk

I was a math/physics double major and my PhD is in a science discipline but not engineering. I do something very specific here though so my background is somewhat unique. Most of the people on the hardware/design side are engineering majors, I would say MechE is the most popular followed by Production/Weld/Aero engineering. I personally would go the MechE route over Aero, its a bit more versatile if you decide, or are forced to, do something else. Aero can be a brutal career field since its very susceptible to government funding. I had an Aero professor at Caltech who told stories about him having to clean parking lots at night during the 70's since the aero job market tanked. If you're up for it you could always try doubling up or getting a minor in Aero.

The best thing you can do as a student, in addition to maintaining your grades, is to get involved in engineering clubs/events like Formula SAE or similar. Getting hired here can be pretty difficult. We usually get 100+ resumes for most engineering openings and I've seen a few postings were we've gotten 700+. The best thing you can do to stand out is show an ability to get shit done on your own with little support and acting independently. Engineering clubs or personal side projects are the best way to get this across. One of the things that separates us from most legacy aero firms is our relatively flat org structure. You have a ton of independence when you work here. That obviously comes with a lot of responsibility but the nice part is people generally leave you alone as long as you get your shit done, no one with baby you or micromanage you here. The same definitely can't be said for most other aero corps.

Also, you'll probably want to apply for our internships at some point. They are competitive, but not quite as competitive as our regular hire positions, and if you do well it will give you a huge leg up when it comes to applying for a permanent spot since we'll get to see how you work.

Thanks man. Awesome advice.
Have you ever met Elon in person? Is he like a common sighting over there?

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Regarding your dream position, keep in mind that our Prop R&D group is pretty much the most coveted position here. We are a relatively small group, compared to say Production or Avionics, and are very tight knit. You also get to work with Tom Mueller extensively and it's where Elon spends most of his time, this can be both good or bad. We also tend to have much lower turnover than most other groups.

It's fairly difficult to get hired in from the outside unless you have significant research experience under your belt. We have quite a few people like me who are not engineers in Prop R&D. Lots of math/physics/comp sci PhD's working on simulation. Many of the engineering hires are laterals from other groups within SpaceX that come over after earning their place. If Prop R&D is what you want, go for it, but be aware you might have to put some time in elsewhere, usually on the Production side. That's not exactly a bad place to be either though, it's tons of fun seeing a rocket being built from start to finish every day you come in to work.

Np.

>Have you ever met Elon in person? Is he like a common sighting over there?
My main desk is maybe 30ft from his so yeah, I see him all the time. He's also fairly involved, even with lower level stuff, so we have weekly meetings with him and other VP's. Say what you will about him but the man does work his ass off, he's always around. Or next door at Tesla. Interns are no longer allowed to talk to him though since they just waste his time.

They do. But mostly its like i love science i hate religion

Great stuff. I'll keep all that in mind, especially the stuff about sticking with mechanical engineering. My school actually has a really good mech/aero program that's done work with NASA before, so it's a good program. I think I'll go that route

>I think I'll go that route
Sounds like a good plan. Best of luck to you user.

If you ever make it to Hawthorne and see someone in the cafeteria wearing Veilance/Acronym, just come up and introduce yourself.

Thanks a lot. Hopefully if everything works out I will be saying hi one day. Good luck

have you ever been to NASA? it's incredible

I've noticed the steady increase in Nasa wear for the past 1-2 years. I thought it was a known trend by now at least in big cities.

Nah, I think NASA's recent appeal goes back as early as Neil deGrasse Tyson and Andy Weir.

Permavirgin cuck detected

I live in Houston. everyone has NASA merch here.

First, normies love NASA and secondly you don't need specialist knowledge to be into the idea of going into space.

>mrw
Reddit get the fuck out right now

>tfw saw this
>hey looks aesthetic
>by the time I get one I see people in my normie uni in bumfuck WI wearing it
might've dodged a bullet but still a bit salty