/Dark Fashion General/

too thick and stench

What about Takahiromiyashista The Soloist? Undercover and CdG H+ also frequently do dark stuff.

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Brand listing was not meant to be exhaustive, if the execution fits in with the vibe then it fits in. I'll let a few others chime in, but I can certainly add them in with the next thread.

Not gonna say you're wrong, even if I've personally been on there maybe three times

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You're better off there than here. 99% of Veeky Forums can't afford any of the labels you mentioned and don't have any real interest in the designers.

this is a really shitty thread
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>A Diciannoveventitre
>Guidi
I don't find these to be "dark" designers, they use black but any good designer would. THese are just beautiful refined punk and distressed looks. I will check out some of the other ones you names though out of interest since I havenet seen people mentions the two I named often on here. Btw if you like the two I meantioned check out:
Fiorentino and Baker
Moma
officine creative
As98
measponte

The real choice to make is : do you want to stay here with an active but autist / unknowledgeable one, or go over there with a dying but knowledgeable community and a bigger autist than any Veeky Forumsggot, in the person of Faust ?

best thread in the catalogue by a mile
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>go over there with a dying but knowledgeable communit
well why is it dying? I just looked at the threads it said (20) viewing, and all the threads are old threads started in 2006. that one waywt thread is the only one and it started in 2006 or 2011. it seems like no one posts there at all. but it has the right subforums, like "fashion talk" etc, fashion philosophy. the problem is that people who talk deeper into fashion are just a minority, they are the designers, the smart people with real creative abilities and abbility to comprehend deeper macro concepts. the majority will always be people are just in to trying to look good and or think they look good and are just the consumers of Fashion.

why do you say it is dying btw. why is it?

I dont like the name of it ieither 2bh. Zeitgeist? it makes me think of Alex jones and that guy, who made the movie zeitgeist, which is the most boring mainstream anti-anti idea, it's like some conformist socialist utopia idea, and it has geist in it, it just sounds gay. just being honest. i wouldnt want to regularly be a on a site that had that name it's cringey.

to get traffic and an actual legit creative intellgent artistic community, you have to give them a sell point, what is in it for them. if you are truly into improving your Fashion ability and it's a passion of yours then you want somewhere where people will help you develop it and you will help them

Can someone explain why ma+ belts are so ridiculously expensive?

Materials, labor costs, brand prestige, unique production process, design effort, limited quantities, exclusivity.

Why is any clothing brand expensive ever? Why do FoG jeans retail for 1k? You could ask that question about any number of brands or specific items. At the end of the day the price is whatever their target demographic is willing to pay and perceives as appropriate for the product being offered.

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Taken from jakobhetzer ‘s instagram

received isablel benenato trousers today, I fr*gging love them
and ann d blazer a while ago, will have to see if I actually end up wearing it though, never felt that comfortable casually rocking one

If you have the ability to take some good photos of the items & some of their detailing that would be really awesome, maybe talk about how they fit on the body and stuff

What is that translucent jacket?

Parachute vest. The jacket is hidden in the vest in an interior pocket.

This could be cool if it incorporated elements of horror. Like, classic tacky horror. Mummies, vampires, clowns, Stephen King stories...

can't be assed to take photos, they are both black and I have garbage for light
the trousers are comfy as fuck, they are roomy in the thigh, have drop crotch and high waist so they don't basically restrict movement at all
I think I would prefer if they weren't as tapered as they are, the leg opening is 15,5 cm laid flat, but they're amazing anyway
the fabric is really nice too, linen wool blend, bit 'harder' texture than just plain wool but they are really light and warm
pic related, removed the suspender though, it really doesn't serve any purpose and I don't like how it looks

found pics of the blazer as well
kinda ill fitting on both of the models though

Gotta squeeze as much money out of new money chinks as they can.

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Their WDYWT thread is still active on a daily basis. I said that because Faust is making a lot of efforts to keep SZ relevant ( collabs with fashion designers ) but yet the fact that some important members left and that his publication is a failure is too much.

So its dying . It hasnt started to die recently, but its still dying

To be honest Faust can only blame himself for that, he seems like an absolute control freak and he is elitistic as fuck, though that's sorta understandable.
But the main issue is he just doesn't handle or understand internet as a platform at all, he hasn't and won't change a thing even though it's clear SZ is slowly withering away

Absolutely, thats why he's hated by the most of the rest of the internet fashion community. Banning people for not liking Carpe Diem... What could I Say about his Grailed rant post

Manlet trash, the only good thing he did on internet was making Rosenrot and Shui have a place where they could glow. This and having GBS / Zam post on his forum

Zam is a fucking hack though.
But yeah, Shui and Rosenrot adapted, both to what worked for them the best, Faust never moved to any direction so it's not a surprise things aren't looking up to SZ exactly.

>internet fashion community

There is one?

He actually nice in person but is just a complete keyboard warrior online. I can understand where he's coming from since he had to deal with fuccbois coming in asking how geobaskets fit, but I also think him banning people for liking things he does like reflects badly on the overall site. Grailed might be full of fuccbois, he could've learned from some of the community building tactics they use. Posting on forms just isn't enough anymore.

>He actually nice in person
Yeah I don't doubt that, he is still fucking up handling any kinda community online though.

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I think you’re talking about pairings, UC has items that fit dark fashion the same way it has stuff that caters to menswear and hype beast.

I’d throw in Lumen eat Umbra and Devoa

I have not seen any Asian rock M.A belts. At most I see the loose Yohji + Guidi combo

>the one guy I sold my Devoa pants to rocked up in OCBD and Tan chinos lel. I get people dress “normie” for work and stuff but still...

M.a+ belts are a complete meme for chinese new money. They might have moved onto CCP now though.

Most fashion forums have been decade/dying for a while. SuFu is dead as bricks since some interesting people got banned and people migrated to styleforum/reddit/insta

Accessories are always overpriced for two reasons : they are easy cash-grabs and there would be a lack of brand image consistency if you sold let's say $100 belts alongside $2000 pants. Same thing applies to basic tee shirts etc. Also having higher margins on cheap & popular items allows brands to lower their margins on the most expensive ones and to take more risks.

how do i /dark fashion/ if i can't afford those brands. or do i just not

plz no,

just go to hot topic at the mall

>Same thing applies to basic tee shirts
ma+ tees aren't really that expensive though

It will look cheap if you use lesser brands so... Just save money

>ma+ one piece short sleeve t-shirt
>$300

And those are the cheapest ones

Being into high end stuff is very cool but don't lose the sense of reality. Those prices are insane for tee shirts

Which designer made this belt?

M.A+

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w2c coat??

Issey Miyake

honestly i dont see insta as being anything very useful, not for actual dialog. you cant even upload or delete posts from your pc, it's purely mobile, it's like being trapped in your phone, and relying on likes for your shitty pics. i follow rick owens and a couple others and they post fucking amazing pics, but it's like ok....*clicks like button*, now what, leave a comment, ok ricj youre the best love this photo. it's all one sided and closed off. there's no actual back and forth or community in it.

I want to let you know I have respect for you all even though I cant afford this or pull it off

Also fashion groups on facebook
I agree, but everyone really seems to have moved on from forums :(

What makes zam a hack? I own three pairs of his pants and they're all amazing. The materials and construction are incredible. His conceptual stuff is kinda weak but that doesn't make him a hack..

Why the fuck is Jakob hetzer on this list? He has good taste but his brand is garbage. His collections are super unfocused and overpriced. He also pretends to make his money from selling clothes but it's clear that him and his friends are just trust fund babbys

Who else would you recommend as a young up and coming designer that can somewhat fit in amongst other designers of this style that could replace him then?

I personally did like how his last collection of sweaters came out, but I also don’t have six hundred beans to throw at a single item at the moment so I can’t speak to the quality.

His designs are riped off of other designers work

don't worry no one in this thread can afford or pull it off either

can someone find me a fit with

-black leather gloves
-black coat of mid to long lenght
-black dress pants
-black turtleneck
-black dress shoes
-belt and sunglasses optional

thanks

People dislike him because he takes HEAVY inspiration on other designers. Doesn't change the fact that his clothes are pretty good if you're into this style and can be really affordable on sale.

I do. Fight me punk.

Taichi murakami. He's not 20 but he actually knows what he's doing..

He's not a hack.

So what that he takes inspiration from other designers? All these designers sitting within this aesthetic do to either a lesser or greater extent. People hated on Boris Bidjan Saberi several years ago for his sneaker designs being derivative. People hated A1923 for being derivative, and people hated Guidi's clothing for being derivative. I'm referencing StyleZeitgeist in the early 2010s since these brands are rarely, if ever, discussed anywhere else. My point is that it doesn't matter if his work is derivative or not. Everyone is derivative, particularly in a niche where you only use bizarre sewing techniques, neutral colors, and arcane craftsmanship techniques. This is coming from someone who owns Guidi, A1923, Rick Owens, Lost & Found, Ann D., Damir Doma, Lumen et Umbra and many more. Very few of these designers are truly doing unique things.

Why did you even quote me, I specifically said I don't care about his ripping off other designers as long as it is well done. Faggot.

I don't understand how some of this shit is so expensive, and I'm fine with paying $800 or so for a nice pair of pants or boots, but fucking $1000+ for a belt? Nah fuck off.

Does anybody here own m_moria? I'm curious what the quality is like at that price

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w2c pants like this?

I feel like Haider Ackermann would have something similar

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I don't own any but I've handled them. They're some of the best out there in terms of construction, but the shiny leather treatment is not for me.

close enough, just imagine it were a turtleneck and gloves.

tried shooping, sunglasses and that would be great

w2c pants?

The particular belt I assume you're referencing (the cross belt) is made with a bunch of hand worked sterling silver, which drives the price up. All of those crosses are sterling. Additionally, that belt is about as close as Amadei gets to making a statement logo piece so he probably produces less and charges more because increased demand for that particular piece equates to advertising in a niche where branding is generally very minimal.

Come on dude these are the most basic pants, you can find them everywhere god damn

you literally can't
google Guidi

I mean A1923 is like the biggest one out of the avant garde footwear realm for being as uninspired as fuck. Some neat designs but his only real unique thing is the dual zips. Ceccheto is a bit of a hack.

m_moria is nuts. I can't deal with the silhouette though really.

They're old Ann D

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What do you guys think of these? I know they are basic but that is kinda what I'm looking for. Damir Doma for $400ish. I have no experience with their shoes so I'm not sure what to expect.

Dont cop Damir anywhere near retail. Quality went down the drain.

thought of doing it too originally, however figured it would look like shit. well done user, looks better than the original outfit imo

Oh gotcha. I have only purchased a shirt from there many years ago.

Got Damir shoes. Quality is great and they fit a bit small. They are pretty old though, got them way before the brand was reshaped so it might not be relevant.

I own a lot of Damir and I've been into this designer for a long time and I don't feel like quality went down at all. The problem is that when they integrated the silent line to the main label. It resulted in a lot of very overpriced pieces which still offer the same middle-end quality as silent but are now priced higher in accordance with the price range of the main line (which has always been very expensive anyway).

So yeah, same quality but less value.

Id on his shoes or the name of that type of shoes

Hey guys, what do you think? Girls at work say I look like a dark mysterious man.

Can someone recommend some long belts that work with this style that cost less then $500? I have a decent wardrobe but my accessories are severely lacking .

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