The Italo-German Dark Ages

You mean we actually have standards for evidence now, since the Greeks didn't know the meaning of the word.

Phrenology was a thing when my grandparents were born, lobotomy too. I wouldn't say the standards used to be that much higher than when the greeks said lol mice just poofed into existence.

Delete this

>German proto-fedoras chim out over religious autism

Phrenology was only abandoned out of political correctness. There's nothing wrong with studying skull shapes.

>we wuz good catholic boys but those evil protestants keeps us down!
tell me more

>Phrenology was only abandoned out of political correctness

Le cultural marxism strikes again lads

Well no, it was the Hundred Years War that did France in, and without France the Church no longer had its armed hand.

>Germany
>Rising to Relevance

Anyone got a watch? I need to check the time desu

meanwhile we were exploring the world
>feelsggodman

btw pt here

I guessed :^)
Ola irmao!

Not really, the scientific method as it exists today is quite rigorous, and it's what enabled technological progress unlike anything else in human history. The whole idea of verifying every hypothesis and constantly putting theories back into question was around for the Greeks.

>a frenchfag is butthurt about not being able to destroy Germany

Usual day I see

>dark ages

The concept of a European identity hardly existed before republicanism, and that identity is really the only thing changing.

In most respects Europe is richer and more peaceful than ever before

>Western Christendom didn't exist before republicanism

There was Christendom, but that cover all Christian kingdoms and empires, European or not. There was not a sense of continental identity shared by people of all classes.

Who gives a shit about Europe, worst meme ever. There is no Europe, never was.

>middle ages
>everyone trying to kill and conquer each other
>"unity"

>everyone trying to kill and conquer each other

You just described all of history since the birth of life.

newhumanist.org.uk/2441/in-defence-of-gods-philosophers

Howdy.

Imagine the state that europe would have been in if it had another couple of hundred years of unchallenged Borgia popes, every richer monasteries owning ever more land and crushing ever more peasants into serfdom. The sale of indulgences and veneration of fake relics unchecked...

All those things happened as a result of the Papacy moving back to Rome from Avignon because of the Hundred Years War and the end of French hegemony. If not for that, the Papacy would have remained in France under de facto French control and there would have been no such corruption.

italo-german
>uses a french book of hours

It's used to identify the identities of murder victims so there must be some truth to it

That pic is supposed to illustrate the state of civilisation before everything went to shit.

God this makes me feel like such a rich Jew as a Dutchman. Feels good man.

But it's from the 15th century.

then why were so many wars fought because of petty inheritance claims?

The hundred years war for starters.

1407 if I remember correctly. But it still depicts typical Gothic Era life as it would have been a century earlier, as well as some of the landmarks of France from that time. But in the early 14th century International Gothic art was still in its infancy and still focused on religious motives, so there's not a lot to go by if you want it to be strictly chronistic.

>the inheritance of the kingdom of France
>petty

Shit nigga, tell us what your dad is leaving you in his will.

>phrenology is the same as forensic morphology
you have no idea what you're talking about
facial reconstruction from skull fragments is not even remotely similar to divining personality and intelligence from cranium-bumps

Is this ironic?

>14th century
>dark ages

who calls it like that?

Petrarch, who originated that term, calls everything between the fall of Rome and his own time (about 1350) "dark ages".

Coincidentally, 1350 is exactly when the actual dark ages began, thanks in large part to Petrarch himself.

i've always used the term for the period between the fall of rome and coronation of charlemagne

That's the only way in which it makes any sense. But it's not what it originally meant, or how most people still understand it today.

I use it when talking about the time between the Bronze Age Collpase and the Archaic Era of Greece.

I use it when talking about the dark age of technology that will last until the Butlerian Jihad.

It is actually a bit intriguing. Nobody ever talks about how bad that collapse was. Without it, could things like Christendom and chivalry have survived to this day?

A Western medieval type society conquering space sounds cool as fuck desu.

I know right.