> elaborate ritual
> bells
> chants and choirs
> incense
> processions
> rosaries
> images
> holy water
> monks
> nuns
> abbots
> Lama (basically a Pope)
> angels
> saints
> confession
> purgatory
> priests wear skirt robes
what´s the deal between tibetan buddhism and roman catholic church?
elaborate ritual
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Ones run by Chinese and the others run my Europeans
>the others run my Europeans
Shlomo?
>Yo Pope Francis. Yeah, it's Schlomo from Nu Yohk. Are you taking care of my Yuropeans for me? Good goy... Oh the new Argentinian president? Our friends South of the Equador will see that he gets shut down soon enough. Yes...
*Rubs hands*
pagans meet a transcendent faith meets an empire.
It's the Nestorian heritage of Mahayana Buddhism.
>Mahayana
Tibetans are Vajrayana
Christians invented Buddhism
Yes, but in the words of the Dalai Lama "the Chinese (Mahayana Buddhists) are our elder brothers in Buddhism" since the Tibetans learned Buddhism from the Chinese.
>Tibetans learned Buddhism from the Chinese
kek
>from the Chinese
Who themselves learned it from merchants and missionaries traveling along the Silk Road
But this true, the first introduction of Buddhism in a high-powered political way was from China. This is an actual quote of Tensin Gyatso, the current Dalai Lama
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He's partially right. Chinese did introduce them to Buddhism officially, but then again so did the Nepalese.
Given that Tibetans considered Chinese buddhism to be impure (so do the many chinese themselves), the Tibetans opted for the Indian/Nepalese version. They've been forever practicing the Indian buddhism rather than Chinese.
Why so late in the game? Wasn't Buddha born in ~900 B.C.? Why did it take that long for Buddhism to reach Tibet?
Geographical isolation and nomadic tribes society.
He was born around ~560bc.
>the Tibetans opted for the Indian/Nepalese version
But you are literally wrong.
Tibetan Buddhists are the Protestants of Buddhism. Or even more specific than that, they are the Pentecostals or [insert other fringe sect]. Why would anybody bother with their 120,000 page scriptural canon instead of going to the earliest sources. Do they not want authentic teachings or something?
Go on
Authenticity is not an issue due to there not being a special sacred place for scriptures to link to. In christianity, you have the divinity to guide the bible. In Buddhism, you are left with whatever is practical approach.
What may work with India won't work in Tibet or China. Dont eat meat? There are no vegetables to grow in the tundra Himalaya. The difference between Christianity and Buddhism is effectiveness of the teachings, not divinity.
Buddhism is not like Christianity in there being one authoritative text. I think the many people obsessing over the "pure" Hinayana Buddhism somehow being better than vajrayana or mahayana are missing the point.
That isn't to say there were not major disagreement between sects just that it seems to me westerners are interpreting Buddhist history through the lens of Christian history
Vajrayana is a subgroup of Mahayana, they use Mahayana scriptures and refer to themselves using both names.
>implying Jews aren't European
just as much as Christianity is