Let's settle this once and for all

Is racism logical?

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no

no

No. Racism arises from heuristics, which are inherently unreliable.

/pol/

I would say no, but let's begin by understanding what our individual conceptions of race are exactly.

nah

probably not

No

Yes

Of course not.

is more of a logic substitute. Short hand logic. Logic for the logic-less.

So no.

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What do you think?

please stop

So being a neckbeard is being smart? Why do we insult them again?

*tips stalhelm*

What a legendary get

Wouldn't that be for the opposite?

hex don't lie.

stop what

>phrenology

HEXGETHEXGETHEXGET

What's going on here?

idk

holy shit we were blinded by the hex we didn't see the wealth of dubs.

also no.

Racialism?
No. Not at all

Human Biological Difference?
Yes

Discriminating based on clear differences?
Its a bit complicated...
By most moral constructs, it is immoral though, thats a given

Yes. If you think no, then you've never lived with niggers.

I feel like I could say the opposite.

wtf i hate niggers now

See
Hex don't lie, you're wrong forever.

Heh. Veeky Forums always mocks /pol/ for having a fancy for trips and dups and just labels them /b/-tier but when a person saying something politically correct gets it they celebrate.

>Veeky Forums always mocks /pol/ for having a fancy for trips and dups and just labels them /b/-tier

I've seen a lot of people say /pol/ is /b/-tier, but that is not the reason.

I think it's more in terms of who's closer to whom.

Why don't you rigorously define what you mean by racism and I'll get back to you

You can believe that X people are worse / better than Y people in general but it is illogical to discriminate based on that since there is more variation within races than between them.

The GET train has no stops

Hateing anyone based on skin color alone is retarded.

The problem with race is that it is not static.

It seems like common knowledge that the Irish would be considered white, but back when the immigrated to the US, they were literally thought of as subhuman potatoes. Now they are considered part of the "white race" and this is also true with Italians. Who the hell knows what white actually is? Phenomenologically speaking, slavs appear to be white, but if you say that you'll get a lot of (You)s implying that slavs are white.

Slavs and Irish people aren't considered white according to Thomas Huxley, who was the most fervent proponent of Darwinian evolution in society. They're on the same level as Africans and Asians. I think they might be lowers on the hierarchy then Asians actually, I can't remember how it unfolds exactly. It's very specific.

Nowadays, we group people into four races: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, and Australoid. These terms aren't widely used, save for forensic anthropology, and are used in a very loose way. Caucasoid includes anyone from Europe to the Horn of Africa and India. Mongoloid includes everyone in Southeast Asia and the Americas. Negroid includes all people groups in North and South Africa, though some separate them into two sub-races: Capoid and Congoid. And finally, the Australoids include any native inhabitants of Australia and some Melanesian islands.

>Nowadays, Americans group people into four races: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, and Australoid.

FTFY.

i for one don't hate people based on race
i hate them based on their shitty culture

OF COURSE IT IS LOGICAL FUCKING NIGGERS CHINKS SPICS AND SANDNIGGERS NEED TO BE EXTERMINATED THAT WAY ALL US WHITE GODS WILL ENDLESSLY PROCREATE AND CREATE A FULLY ARYAN GOD STATE COMPRISING ALL THE LAND WE HAVE TAKEN AND RIGHTFULLY OWN WITH OUR BIG WHITE GOD COCK

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Memetic magic has chosen, you are wrong. It's over.

Irish and slavs have fair skin and caucasoid skulls, how are they not white?

He never said they weren't, he was merely putting it out there that they haven't always been considered white, because white isn't "just" a term that defines skin color.

I mean, ask yourself, is an African albino white? He or she would be white skinned, but certainly not what we would consider "white" culturally speaking.

>aren't widely used

its so annoying looking up info on archaeogenetics and finding that pretty much everyone that ever posts about it online is into HBD, which is just inevitably a cover for racialism which is really just racism. layers upon layers of amateurs trying to pretend that they're not racist by showing how they're pureblood Cro-Magnons or whatever

Yes.

I figured people who post on a board dedicated to fucking history would look at nigger society and realize that there's a pattern.

Haven't you ever wondered why literally every single culture that's been made up of blacks has been a backwards cesspool of violence and crime? How is it that over the course of thousands of years of human civilization black people never achieved technology greater than spears and mudshit huts when they call one of the most prosperous continents on earth their home?

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Memetic magic has chosen, you are wrong. It's over.

Well, yeah. Prison is a good example, so is anyone who ever lived in a black neighborhood who was ever white, although that's more anecdotal.

Phrenology is a pseudoscience if it derives some sort of indication of mental abilities or otherwise. Showing the differences between the skulls of different races, and juxtaposing them together is not phrenology; it is, however, an uncomfortable factor for those who argue that there is no inherent difference between races.

It might be possible, that the material conditions for the advancement of their societies have never been up to par. Malaria is the biggest killer and the disease is worse in Africa. Slaves were given no access to material or wealth and had to try to overcome adversity. They still produced the best damn music of this past century. I imagine if there were different circumstances a different culture would arise.

>however, an uncomfortable factor for those who argue that there is no inherent difference between races.

I've never heard anyone argue that there aren't any differences between races at all; I mean everyone acknowledges that we have different skin colors.

The point isn't that people are different. The point is that people use tiny, insignificant differences as a justification to hate and oppress.

>They still produced the best damn music of this past century

>dat anime pic
>autistic racists
that's fucking great

>doesn't even attempt to argue
>r-racyiss!

>>>/tumblr/

So this is a thing.

They founded everything you enjoy.

See the hex. Meme majicks do not lie, you've been destroyed

>How is it that over the course of thousands of years of human civilization black people never achieved technology greater than spears and mudshit huts
lmao

And half the population of Europe was killed off by the bubonic plague, that didn't stop them from becoming the dominant force in the world and developing technology that far superseded every other society.

>mfw

lol

It gets worse.

Egypt is single handily responsible for all civilization existed. You can say "B B B BUT MOM THEY WERENT BLACK PEOPLE!!!!" all you want. They were in Africa.

Taylor is motivated by music founded by black artists in the early 20th century

No. Even if the superiority of one group over another could be conclusively proven, there is no excuse for treating somebody poorly due to immutable aspects of identity

they weren't black.

Are you seriously implying that the only qualification to be a nigger is to live in Africa?

Ah you think memes are your ally? You merely adopted the memes. /pol/ was born in it, molded by it. /pol/ didn't see the light until /pol/ was already a oldfag, by then it was nothing to /pol/ but blinding

ummmm what makes you think you understand tay's motivations?

>responds with a picture of a fucking jew
jesus christ you autistic piece of shit

I was talking about blues and rock.

They were black. Most were Nubians, most lived in the surround area. The 5.2 thousand year event further made the Sahara barren. Most traveled towards the Nile at the time, allowing Egpyt to exist.

You're twelve shut the fuck up lol

im actually glad to see that someone treated adam and eve as brown people for once

Her music has nothing to do with her motivations

Nice dubs, but it's true

havent genetics studies shown that modern egyptians are pretty much the same people as ancient egyptians?

there were black people in egypt but the bulk of egyptians were the same sort of people that exist today. egyptians today aren't really arabs, as in arabs from arabia, they're culturally arab and so they've adopted that identity.

No you're twelve shut the fuck up lol

Yeah, I think AiG prides themselves on that. They prefer to have as much accuracy as their belief system allows.

Yes

*prides itself

Egyptians weren't Nubian, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. They were invaded by them at one point, that doesn't mean all egyptians turn into Nubian.

For fucks sake Ramses the II was a red head with fair skin. And you'll also notice he ruled over one of the greatest periods in Egyptian history.

go to bed dad

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Is there any merit to the argument:

>you say blacks were oppressed so thats why they're the way they are now? Look at chinese americans, they were shit on massively too but look where they are now, much better off than blacks

"They were black just the important ones weren't"

It's not an argument. A majority of Ancient Egypt was black, especially in the Old Kingdom. Middle and New, especially New would have attracted a lot of Africans, you can see this reflected in New Kingdom art. You don't know shit about world history.

>post Greek contact New Kingdom Egyptian
>reflective of the majority of time of their civilization

Oh user....

Here's a model of him from the Creation Museum. I admit, even though their ideas are laughable, they certainly did put a lot of time, money, effort, and love into it.

why the fuck did you post electronic music when he was talking about blues and rock?

And as for tay tay, her music is country music which is LITERALLY blues music with a hint of western influence. Blues music = nigger music. Without them niggas, you wouldn't have tay tay.

do you have any genetic resources on that? i'm genuinely curious, because i was under the impression that modern egyptians are straight up egyptians.

i wont doubt you if you can show that there's genetic evidence of it

>do you have any genetic resources on that?

You first. Direct art is more accurate representation of their time. New Age art went outside of the realm of idealization of form before, and it shows them as mostly black.

I've been looking around to cross reference this claim too but the only people who make the claim that egyptians were nubians are afrocentrist who don't prove sources other than pointing at africa and yelling "this be nigger country"


There's your answer.

He has no proof.

There can be multiple reasons for something being the situation it is.

Blacks being in a worse situation that whites, can both be that they were and are marginalized, *and* that they themselves don't want to integrate into the larger culture, and glorify their own victimhood.

I meant New Kingdom not age

I never said Nubian. Towards the New Kingdom, certainly. Old Kingdom was more collection of people in North, and people to the West left due desertification of Sahara towards the Nile

It's not that, it's more size combined hostility of Africa that prevented it.

to point out that blues and rock are by no means the universally agreed upon "best damn music of this past century" and country western music is based primarily off insular folk music but i know that wont stop you for tryin to take credit for it

but to prove my point, compare:

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with

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>they themselves don't want to integrate into the larger culture, and glorify their own victimhood
I find it a bit funny that Asians choose to americanize their first names and leave their family names while blacks do the opposite; leave their family names (white) and JUST their first names.