How many civilizations has miscegenation destroyed?

How many civilizations has miscegenation destroyed?

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Most notably the roman empire

Also gotta check that white cuck monkey

not enough

Civilization isn't destroyed because people of different physical characteristics have children together. It's silly to assume a racial and cultural identity and pathway most be aligned to work.

>that benis

damn I want to destroy japan right now

>implying miscegenation isn't literally L I T E R A L L Y one of the internationally recognized forms of genocide

So did old timey european traders and diplomats actually get to slam Japanese chicks? Cuz that sounds like a sweet gig.

>depict black folks as barbarians with giant penises for centuries
>japanese do it once and you throw a massive genocidal fit
plz no school shooting

Race and culture have been shown to be very much intertwined

>not naming the file DUTCHED.COM

Elaborate

right now we even live in a rape culture according to sociologists like David Reddit and Jacob Tumblr.

*misread your post, thought you wrote rape and not race kek.

>that monstruous dick and balls

What the fuck, mine doesn't look like that.

It's probably a whore.

Maybe in the Brothels which were probably more prevalent back then. I really doubt some Japanese guy is just gonna let a Gaijin near his daughter

The Meso-American civilizations were already destroyed by the time the Spaniards started mixing with them, so I don't think it counts.

0.

All the best Empires had different peoples and cultures flowing through them easily and mixing and sharing ideas.

Not true. The Roman Empire was "race" (race as a concept was invented in the Colonial era and doesn't scientifically exist) mixing since it's dawn. It rose to it's dominance race mixing, plateaued race mixing, and declined race mixing. It was irrelevant.

>one of the internationally recognized forms of genocide

t. European Nationalist

The World Wars already destroyed European culture. Those were caused by extremist anti-miscegenation.

No, they haven't.

They still exist

Literally zero.

If mixing has no negative results, why does America have no culture then?

The lineage of Mycenean Kings out of Argos began with Perseus and the Aethiopian princess Andromeda. The Greeks married their culture to people of different races constantly.

It isn't race mixing when you take over the neighboring state and take all of their women. There wasn't a racial or physical difference between a Roman and a Sabine or even Gaul. Even on the other side of the Mediterranean there wasn't a racial gap like there is today when people think of race mixing.

culture=/=race

Was race mixing really that common? I bet it was much less common than it is now.

>race as a concept was invented in the Colonial era and doesn't scientifically exist

Cuckold pls go

India. The Aryans should have just shipped the Dravidians to the Andaman islands where they belong.

Absolutely none

Actually, American culture is literally something that's everywhere. Our culture isn't so much art in the modern age, but technology, entertainment, etc.
The very Internet you're using right now is something American. The reason you're speaking English despite not being American (Or maybe you're from the UK, but the UK didn't popularize the language) is due to America. This very website originated in America.

So America does have culture. You're just choosing to ignore it.

Finally a sane thread, I think we can all agree the non consensual miscegenation had no effect on meso-american, siberian, british, and Egyptian civilization

>black folks
>school shooting

Fuck off nignog. Go hoot about blm or something

Aztecs and other nahua were immigrants from the north.

This.

There's a reason we're all here, discussing history. In our times, shitty american/anglo influence taints everything, so escapism is a must.

How can jap boys even compete?

>race as a concept was invented in the Colonial era and doesn't scientifically exist
Pls

>Guys, guys, American culture is *whispers* everywhere.
>No seriously, I can't see anything that is originally your-
>BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT!
This is how many of you are deluded religious fundamentalists, except white, right?

they had brothels set up specifically for foreigners (in port cities). Working there was considered less attractive than working in a normal brothel.

their descendants exist, their civilizations do not

they go to South Korea, the country with the lowest average penis size in the world.

Not him, but you're a full blown retard if you think America has no culture or some shit like that.

>Yeah but what is 100% American and not influenced by anything else, huh?!?
Nothing. There's nothing that's 100% anything. There are no original ideas. Everything in your culture was influenced by something else. People have been trading ideas since before the beginning or recorded history.

explain turks

>All the best Empires had different peoples and cultures flowing through them easily and mixing and sharing ideas.
usually because they conquered said peoples and cultures

Except that was a myth, and Aethiopia was considered to be more of a mythical place that was located to extreme hotter end of the world -- kind of like opposite of Hyberborea -- during the Archaic Age and beforehand, and not a specific attributed land in real life like Greeks of the Classical age did with attributing it to the land below or to the extreme West of Egypt. And that's false that they approved or intermarried constantly with non-Hellenic people that they considered barbaric. You would often get shit on for marrying someone from a different city / or dialectic speaking region, let yet alone to a non-Hellenic person. Euripides's "Ion" gives you a clue of how having a non-Athenian parent meant that chances of succeeding or being popular in the city's politics and social life was very low, and how you will be a subject of hate by other citizens, as told by Ion in the play after getting told that Creusa is his mother and that he's going to be King after Xuthus death but demises at the odds of being taken seriously as he's told that his real father was a non-Athenian stranger (who was really Apollo) and he wouldn't be considered legitimate. And Athens was the most cosmopolitan city of all of Greece at the time.

None

Got any proof?

The world wide web (what most people call the "Internet") was invented by the British, and this website was essentially stolen from the Japanese.
Not that I think America has no culture or anything, I have no idea how people can unironically say or think that. I wouldn't really say that technology is culture, though.

Zero. Civilizations collapse partly because of the economic problems and external forces, partly from the corruption of elites and internal cultural division into smaller groups of people.

>according to sociologists like David Reddit and Jacob Tumblr.

also. nice hell trips

>the cuck monkey in the background

lmao

COLONISED

Rome.

India, although you can't really say the Aryan ethnic cleansing warlord niggers were really an empire. The caste system was originally set up as a mechanism by which you could separate and specialize the now cohabiting races by duty and marriageability, it was racial in it's original intent.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism)#Etymology_and_origins

>The word appears in the Rigveda, where it means "colour, outward appearance, exterior, form, figure or shape".[13] The word means "color, tint, dye or pigment" in the Mahabharata.[13] Varna contextually means "colour, race, tribe, species, kind, sort, nature, character, quality, property" of an object or people in some Vedic and medieval texts.[13] Varna refers to four social classes in the Manusmrti.[13][14]

Eat your fucking heart out Indian national revisionistfag.

America probably.

Miscegenation built the Roman Empire.

Gotta have exotic slave girls for the nobles or else you can't finance your wars.

Korea is literally the sneaky fucker male reproduction strategy given human form and sentience.

nice source, faggot.

>Miscegenation built the Roman Empire.

Maybe within the Italian peninsula, but outside that I doubt all the German mercenary poontang and all those radical binge orgies were really healthy.

America having no culture isn't something negative.

This will trigger you /pol/tards, but the only real authentic American culture is that of the blacks.

Most of American culture is borrowed from immigrant populations (Italians, Chinese, angl*s, etc.) which brought their culture with them to the US. Blacks, on the other hand, were quickly separated from most of their original culture. Yet they developed the forerunning elements of most music we know today.

Work songs back in the plantation era found their way into the new Blues genre. The Blues then led to more fast-paced Jazz, which then led to Rock-n-Roll. The beats and rhythm of all these genres went to influence Hip Hop, which in turn influenced Pop music.

Now, Korean girls are singing a song with a rhythm and beat that can be tracked to a black slave almost dying of heat stroke.

>uses rigveda quote from wikipedia
>doesnt understand that contextual meaning in an ancient language like sanskrit.
>Doesnt explicitly quote the passage from which the word was used to provide context to claim.
>Just creates a meaning for the word that is in relation to his previously held belief
>posts it on Veeky Forums

The modern pseudo intellectual everyone.

>but the only real authentic American culture is that of the blacks

lol

>led to Rock-n-Roll.

sure, it's not like Appalachian bluegrass had anything to do with it.

>Work songs

sung in english, and maybe french.

so much for that authenticity.

>all songs in 4x4 time can be tracked to a black slave almost dying of heat stroke

not saying blacks weren't important, but you gotta cool your jets.

What he said was right and it was also consense in Western Indology since the inception of this field. Only extensive propaganda efforts of Hindu nationalists have managed to blur the truth a bit recently

>doesnt understand that contextual meaning in an ancient language like sanskrit.

That sentence has no semantic meaning get good kid.

maybe if you actually read the small excerpt I provided you would see the words "Varna contextually means" a number of different things having to do with external appearance and color.

I'll bet you've never even opened up a translation of the Rig Veda you stupid hack. Your memes are garbage go back to /pol/.

books.google.com/books?id=zUezTfym7CAC&pg=PA924#v=onepage&q&f=false

ez

>Western Indology
so if the west does it is a science, but when the eastern descendants do it is propaganda.

You are just as full of shit as him.

>sure, it's not like Appalachian bluegrass had anything to do with it.
So you're telling me that parents in the 50's were scared of their children becoming like hillbillies and singing hillbilly music? You think Buddy Holly was called to perform at the Apollo Theater because he sounded country? No sir.

I agree that country music had a large influence on rock n roll. Hell The Crickets were originally country singers. However, the beat, rhythm, and pace all developed from R&B which was mainly black music.

>what is historical objectivity and why do politically active Indian Nationalists not have any considering even the limited recent history of the Mughal Empire

pls all you can do is say people are full of shit and post lazy memes

>I'll bet you've never even opened up a translation of the Rig Veda you stupid hack. Your memes are garbage go back to /pol/.
I dont need to open it for this argument, I was born into a hindu family and I was thought the vedas since my youth, so I think I have more understanding than a 15 minute google search in the quest to be right in your own terms.
>That sentence has no semantic meaning get good kid.
Yea and your sentence lacks proper commas, this isnt a fucking word document you mongoloid.
>maybe if you actually read the small excerpt I provided you would see the words "Varna contextually means" a number of different things having to do with external appearance and color.
I think I have more authority on this subject than your googlefu since I have lived it and in that if you mean colour you mean Jati, not Varna which is defined by profession.

>Buddy Holly was called to perform at the Apollo Theater

did they often call up whites to preform?

...

>I was born into a hindu family
>my dad works for nintendo

of course your anecdotal evidence is better than a dictionary definition.

>the quest to be right in your own terms

a strange assumption.

>if you mean colour you mean Jati

oh look we have a legitimate curried englishman here

I'm sorry the dictionary disagrees with you man.

The caste system is thousands of years old, you really think what you practice and are familiar with as caste is the same as the system the Aryans introduced thousands of years ago to keep down the indigenous peoples they had recently taken over?

Cause that original system is the one I was referring to.

>what is historical objectivity and why do politically active Indian Nationalists
Uh indian history has been assaulted and denigrated by the socialist left and progressives since Nehru came into power in the 50's, they have been actively suppressing and using foreign consent to write and present india's massive history. They blatantly write out the invasions and wars by myriad central asian tribes that launched into india from the ancient times to the islamic invasions till the 17th-18th century of european colonialism. It doesnt even go into the internal conflicts of vast empires, the flaws and glories are all ommitted for one thing, british colonialism, this is ALL they fucking talk about, no one wants to look past before it.

Of course you arent aware of any of that cause you are an idiot, read Eminent Historians and the Only Fatherland by Arun Shourie if you are such an unbiased paragon of Historical accuracy.

>not have any considering even the limited recent history of the Mughal Empire
What the fuck does that mean you cunt?

>indian history has been assaulted and denigrated by the socialist left and progressives since Nehru came into power in the 50's, they have been actively suppressing and using foreign consent to write and present india's massive history.

why?

>you arent aware of any of that

as an American, why should I care about Indian history? Cause all I got is Tamerlane, Alexander and the Greco-Buddhists/Indian Jews, Sumeria and the massive Indo-European expansion from which the old historians got the term Aryans by reading the Vedas.

>as an American, why should I care about Indian history?
You are the one who came here with an opinion that is biased, you need to answer that yourself, its not for me to spoonfeed anything.

>I don't care about your history.
>That's why you're biased!! Also I won't provide even the scantiest evidence for anything I say cause that would be spoonfeeding.

oh no it couldn't be that a proud Hindu who is somehow ignorant of what his own words mean somehow harbors a nationalistic bias. That would be way ironic.

>if you mean colour you mean Jati, not Varna which is defined by profession

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India

>The names of jātis are usually derived from occupations

you are literally btfo by the most basic bitch google work, pls gtfo.

>The caste system is thousands of years old, you really think what you practice and are familiar with as caste is the same as the system the Aryans introduced thousands of years ago to keep down the indigenous peoples they had recently taken over?
And you were there to see it all, that period of history is one of the MOST contentious and often radicalizing part of the indian history, no one really knows much of what happend then because all that knowledge is long lost and most of the assumptive data that is connected with archaeological findings can never ever draw a definitive account of what happened,
>Cause that original system is the one I was referring to.
Yep, keep moving that goalposts like a good little white boy, cannot let down your massa who let you think you are the same as them.

The original Varna would more than likely have been derived from the Grey Pottery Ware culture that inhabited the indian region who were previously identified as the IVC, the drought caused by the drying up of the Gaggar-Hakkra supposedly caused massive shift in centers for population further south and central into the indo-gangetic plains, the old IVC lands became steppes then deserts, now into the steppes came the nomadic Indo-Aryan tribes and destroyed the few remaining citadels of the IVC and proceeded to integrate into the wider populace and adopt their customs.

Most of what is found within Hinduism is echoes from the IVC, specialization of families in trade is also something that is noticeable within the IVC who relied heavily on trade to define their culture and existence, which latter became draw for the latter traditional merchant cultures that came about during the time of the Mahajanapadas and the Maurayas which was the amalgam of the minority Indo Aryans who introduced the warrior classes and the priests intermarried with the local shamans and elites to form the brahmins.

>you are literally btfo by the most basic bitch google work, pls gtfo.
Read the whole article again and come back.

It clearly states that it is a point of contention amongst authors, there is no definitive answer because it depends on who you ask.

But like a cunt you will stick to whatever justifies your need to be right, you are literally no better than a black revisionist.

>no one really knows much of what happend then because all that knowledge is long lost and most of the assumptive data that is connected with archaeological findings can never ever draw a definitive account of what happened

agreed desu

>keep moving that goalposts

maybe if you actually read that one post all the way back up the chain you would see the words and minor typo

>it was racial in it's original intent
>caste system was originally set up as

ORIGINAL INTENT
ORIGINALLY SET UP AS

>Grey Pottery Ware culture
>Indo-Aryans

who the fuck chooses these names?

>Most of what is found within Hinduism is echoes from the IVC

I could buy that it's plausible but dude do we even have any writings left from the IVC, or do literally all we have to go on is pottery fragments?

>there is no definitive answer because it depends on who you ask

just like there is no definitive answer to the question of our origin cause creationists exist. A great many protestants in my country are creationists, imagine if they got into the school system and disseminated their propaganda with the blessings of the state power structure for half a century.

I'm willing to bet that a conquering people constructed a religious control apparatus based partially on the simple external differences between them and the peoples they subjugated.

also is there some hidden meaning of relation given that jpg?

Yes, European traders often frequented brothels that catered to gaijin. Some Euros would pick up fair amounts of the language during their stay. I've seen some accounts that ridicule European men for this, because they picked up an effeminate form of Japanese.

If you really want to be pedantic the concept of a computer network was invented by Americans in the form of ARPANET

BIG
DUTCH
B E N I S

>race as a concept was invented in the Colonial era

Yes user, no one throughout the entire length of human history noted that there were differences between peoples until the white devil taught them to hate.

The system won't let me bost C O L O N I Z E D
maymays. What did I do to deserve this?

> specialization of families in trade is also something that is noticeable within the IVC who relied heavily on trade to define their culture and existence,

Specialization of families was common across pretty much all cultures until the industrial age m8

Only the ones that were conquered and bred out of existence by the invasive civilization.

Unless the race/ethnicity you mix with collectively overthrows your civilization, saying that miscegenation 'destroyed' a civilization is /pol/-tier hyperbole.

>peoples = race
you have been thoroughly pilled, idiot

>le world wide web
Congratulations. Something that was DIRECTLY descended from something we already and implemented for civilian use. You fucking retard.

>plz no school shooting
Sorry, but as a white man it is my natural inclination to chimp out and shoot my cum into some japanese schoolgirl pussies. I can't help it!

did people back in the day really keep all their clothes on except exposing their genitals?

Clothing is very important in Japanese society.

but what's with that dutchie keeping on the full suit? seems like it would be kind of stuffy as well as pretty gross to just continue going around doing your business in the same clothes you wore while fucking.

Censorship laws.

let's make fun of the guy who's right. tis an old american pastime.

Seriously need to ask?

>did they often call up whites to preform?
Never.

The people at Apollo Theater heard his record and assumed he was black, so they invited him.

WE

WUZ

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi
Nah it happened, look at this absolute madman for proof.

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