As the centuries progress, will he still be as vilified as he is today...

I forgot to mention that Stalin will also be remembered in an equally monstrous fashion unless you're a Russian with Stockholm syndrome.

No, that's definitely Lenin.

I haven't met any youth who dislikes Hitler.

That's because you don't go outside, user.

Nah give it fifty more years and his birthday will be a national holiday in Germany and Austria.

Russia wouldn't have been pulverized by the rest of the world if it weren't for Hitler.

They won't view him as a Napoleon. They'll view him in the context of his times. In the same way that we contexualize ancient tyrants killing thousands and barely vilify them, so will be the case with Hitler. The wounds he inflicted will fade and be contexualize. People will say "Antisemitism was normal back then" etc.

Like whenever you bring up historical child abuse or slavery.

>Ivan The Terrible

The "terrible" in Ivan the Terrible means something more like "awesome/fearsome" than "shitty/no good". It's "terrible" in the way that seeing god would be "terrible".

Brah, people still think the Assyrians were evil, and they were way more normal for their time period than Hitler was in his.

Which didn't stop him from massacring entire cities for whatever reason.

Yeah that's probably what will happen.

When we talk about the fall of Cartage to the Romans, we speak so naturally. Oh and then the Romans went and killed every man woman and child, detroyed the city and sparkled salt on top of it. You don't see mentally-ill SJW warrior types signaling, OMG I'm crying with anger and holding myself for Cartage! Let's not forget Cartage! Never again! Etc.

Distance => indifference.

your word against mines, most youth admire Hitler.

Where do you live, Palestine?

Yep.
People underestimate the importance of spacetime proximity.

I guess you could say... it's a remote concept.

Where do you live, Tel Aviv?

Only french can turn their dictators into enlightened rulers, non-french dictators are merely dictators

>Salting the earth
Isn't that a myth?
The Romans founded a new city at the same place pretty soon afterwards.

lol
asl?

No, I live outside my basement.

Hitler is strong and has achieved more than anyone in modern history, he is to be admired.

Maybe.

Point is they BTFO all Carthaginians and erased the culture.

No, I live outside my basement.

No, really. I'm curious.

I spent an entire minute rereading your sentence and still have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

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No, really. I'm curious.

>Murdered his own son/heir
>Destroyed cities looking to get rid of traitors
>Was fucking insane
The Terrible was an apt name.

>no proof of Hitler's death
>follow your leader
epic
Not even a nazi, but your antifa pictures don't help your argument

Reminder that Hitler is not only NOT controversial, but it's actually admired in Asia and in the Middle East.

Mein Kampf is a best seller in Arab nations.

These regions have huge populations and as they increase in relevance in world politics, the Western consensus is likely to shift to a less emotional and more balanced view.

In short, the rest of the world is a not an echo chamber.

The Assyrians and the Aztecs are still pretty vilified. On the other hand, we forgave the japs. Dunno.

I think he meant how Stalin was afraid Hitler would side with the Western powers and attack the USSR and try to partition the country between Germany and the western powers

Hitler is half satan and half meme. Even in the west people treat him flippantly.

We forgive the Japs because we turned them into a completely different country.

The Japan that caused all of the problems is deader than dinosaurs.

The Western political and academic elites are invested in the narrative that Hitler was evil, but the rest of the world doesn't give a shit.

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express.co.uk/news/world/582542/Adolf-Hitler-Ice-cream-cone-which-has-face-of-evil-dictator-goes-on-sale

I might move to India to have the political freedom of national socialism.

Have fun drowning in shit.

That's fine, but the appellation wasn't given to him because people thought he was awful & piss-poor. It was given to him because he was fearsome.

>has achieved more than anyone in modern history
in what way? All he accomplished was killing millions of people and getting his country bombed to the ground before offing himself.

Go educate yourself shit poster.

And that's still more than you'll ever achieve.

Ah, that makes more sense.
In what way was that even possible, though? Hitler did a fine job of pissing everyone off even before he attacked Poland.

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>china
>west

China is a larger population than the people Hitler wasn't liked by, the reactionary governments of France and England.

If Hitler hadn't mass murdered Jews he would probably go down fairly indifferently with a lot of admirable aspects.
If he had never started WW2 he probably would've ended being hailed among the great Germans like Fredrick II

Yes, but they're also a shithole, and thus irrelevant to the lives of most of the people who have good enough English skills to use Veeky Forums.

The world is a big, big place.

theatlantic.com/photo/2013/07/a-mongolian-neo-nazi-environmentalist-walks-into-a-lingerie-store-in-ulan-bator/100547/

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Nice aesthetics, I love the Mongols.

I have seen a Mongolian Nazi yurt. I think that's it. I have seen all of the things. I'm ready to die now.

Based Baron von Ungern-Sternberg. I was just thinking about him and Ossendowky's book.

The Mongols are an admirable people.

Kek.

That is how he is considered in places Holocaustiany has not taken off.

The Mongolian Fascist Horde comes soon.

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Nazi Tibetan Buddhism when?

Now.

>rising up from the son of a clerk to the most powerful man in the world

This is a joke right?
Japs are still xenophobic and nationalist as they were, they just don't give a shit so you can't guilt them into apologizing for their past crimes

>implying Hitler's government wasn't reactionary
Also, the original point of this trail of thought was the potential of Hitler allying with the West, so I don't know why the hell you're bringing up China.

>national socialism is reactionary
national socialism is revolutionary.

Before Hitler, Napoleon was the ubiquitous supervillain who everyone used to scare monger. They went "that person is just as bad as Napoleon!"

It really makes you think. Logically, once another warmongering dictator shows up, he'll replace Hitler's current status.

>hurrr durr it's just the cycles of time bruh
Napoleon didn't attempt a complete extermination of an entire race of people, with some other minorities mixed in for good measure. Hitler did.
Not to mention Hitler was as repulsive as a personality as he was a politician.
He's become the archetypal villain for good reason.

The west will view him more objectively once another villainous warmonger type comes along and genocide of a familiar community happens on a scale bigger than the holocaust (Rwanda, Bosnia, Darfur, etc. are too distant culturally to the west to have the impact the holocaust did)

Genocide is only a crime post ww2, Europeans exterminated uncountable amounts of peoples in Europe.

Same thing in MesoAmerica, Asia, Australia, middle east, Caucasus etc..

Objectively, he caused a whole lot of war and misery for the cause of German nationalism.

The reason napoleon was viewed as villain was because he overthrew the royalist's in power in nearly all of Europe, and instated a civil law which was incredibly modern at the time, and ist still used in countries around the world, and also conquered europe from Madrid to Moscow.
Hitler wasn't even close to being as good a general as napoleon was, and the reason he tried to conquer europe were to expand the living room for his race.
You can hardly compare an opportunistic racist to a dictator overthrowing the kings of Europe.
There was a reason the people in Warsaw cheered when napoleon conquered it.

True but the holocaust influenced international policy like no other ethnic cleansing ever did

Haha so much feelings.

Meanwhile outside the (((echo chamber)))

vice.com/read/hitler-is-a-rock-star-in-south-asia

Objectively, Napoleon caused a whole lot of war and misery for the cause of French Imperialism

No one called Hitler the bolshevik term Racist.

That's nonsense Tons of leaders committed genocide (see Turkey) and they're not viewed as Hitlers. We have leaders from the same time period who committed even worse atrocities (see Stalin) who we don't view as Hitler. If we go further back in time we can probably find even worse ones.

What we view as supervillain is entirely contextual and what is most politically convenient at the time. The reason Hitler is a personification of evil and Stalin is not is due to one simple reason: Hitler lost the war.

The Jews exterminated the Canaanites etc..

Do you see any Canaanites?
Do you see any Jews?
Enough said.

Ooo wow, a bunch of poverty stricken asians that were outside of Hitler's sphere of influence like him.

Often the historians who write the history the soonest after an event often paint the picture that is followed for the longest.

Napoleon was considered the bad guy but even in his time I wouldn't say he was considered any more evil than any of the other monarchs in Europe at the time.

Rightly or wrongly Hitler was considered more evil than other autocrats of his time immediately after the war, and that is the view that will probably be held indefinitely.

>Rightly or wrongly Hitler was considered more evil than other autocrats of his time immediately after the war, and that is the view that will probably be held indefinitely.
This is false, Hitler was not an evil figure in his time, people were all adopting Fascism.

youtube.com/watch?v=UfpjLsMgAsw

He will be remembered as the ultimate jealousy of future 20th and 21st century political movements. All modern politics is just toned down Fascism that wishes for total control.

It's the same thing with
terrible/terrific and
awful(full of awe)/awesome

english language is weird

>7 wars with the Coalition
>started 2

> and Stalin is not
Are you high? Stalin is always grouped in with people like Hitler or Mao.

>What we view as supervillain is entirely contextual and what is most politically convenient at the time.
This. Like I said before, the current political and academic elites, and even media and enternainment industry, are invested into the narrative that Hitler was the most evil man that ever lived and WW2 was "the good war". But an objective, non biased analysis shows that Hitler was not worse than Stalin and Mao, and in fact no more "evil" than, say, Charlemagne or Mehmed II. The reason Indians, Asians don't view him as evil at all is because they're not invested in the (((narrative))).

>Edgy "fuck the system" stencil
>Stencil has isolated white areas that would defeat it actually being used as a stencil
My inner autist is raging.

>Are you high? Stalin is always grouped in with people like Hitler or Mao.
Stop being facetious, you know that's not true. Talk to the average person and they'll say Hitler was far worse than both of them combined. That's the narrative that popular culture paints.

youtube.com/watch?v=rJQST9JiY-k
Race and nation is a beautiful thing and the ultimate morality.

Hating Hitler also is part of Antifa and SJW's very identity. They know they "have to" hate him, even before they know the least thing about politics, history and WW2. It just comes with the package.

All that fascism (as well as all utopian ideologies) does is fill the void left by God, replacing God with race. It's pretty shit and fails to innovate to be quite honest family