Is this accurate?

Is this accurate?

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No, it's clearly biased. Modern Judaism comes entirely from Pharisaic Judaism, this is presuming all ancient Judaism was Pharisaic.

Also, Islam obviously comes out of Christianity, since they consider Jesus to be the Messiah.

It shouldn't come out of it, but it should be connected via a dotted line?

Bon technically isn't Buddhism despite being highly influenced by it and I'm not sure how Theosophy as it exists today can be said to be anywhere near that old.

No, it should come out of it. Islam is a Christian heresy. Arianism with Arab pagan characteristics.

Christian theology and Islamic theology have far too many differences to reinforce that claim

>catholicism
>not influenced by neo paltonism

That's mainly because Mohammed was ignorant and so he filled in the gaps.

Besides, Mormonism is also very different from Christian theology, doesn't mean it didn't come out of Christianity.

Christianity, at its most basic and inclusive definition, is the belief that Jesus is the Messiah. Islam fails on this point, as they view him as pointing to the final Messiah. It is not a Christian heresy but a different religion altogether.

Idk who is right here, but Islam seems more different than Mormonism, probably because Mormons are still white Westerners.

where is scientology?

It didn't evolve from any other religion

>this chart is biased because it does not align with the particular bias of my church
Always a pleasure, Constantine.

There are surviving sects that do not, they are just not as common

No, here's the fixed version

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Not accurate at all regarding the Indian religions. It would be same as putting atheism and Judeo-Christian under same tree. Bon is not the original of Hinduism or Buddhism or Jain. Vedas are not the original Jain or Buddhism. Jain/Buddhist are on a different tree than Vedic. Sramana is what its called, and neither use Vedic as base.

No.

You mean like Karaites, who have zero continuation with ancient Judaism? You can't even read the Torah by Scripture alone, because the lack of vowels means you could read it so many different ways as different words, the vowels themselves were purely tradition until the Masoretic text composed over a thousand years after Christ.

I would connect Islam to Judaism and Christianity with dotted lines. Islam was more like Arab fan fiction of Judaism with Christian influences.

>the lack of vowels means you could read it so many different ways as different words
Maybe in English, but Hebrew language isn't like English. The vowels aren't as important in the meaning of a word, changing a vowel usually changes grammatical inflection more than the actual meaning of the word. Vowels in Semitic languages are more like the difference between "walking" and "walked" than between "cat" and "cot."

Actual updated version.

Original Hebrew script has no word spaces, choosing where the vowels go can render something entirely differently.

Sorry, this is definitely the newest version.

I'm assuming word spaces mean word dividers. If so, Biblical Hebrew had the paseq to separate words. And now Hebrew has the dot system and matres lectionis, though I'm not sure how old those are.

Again, in Semitic languages different vowels don't mean totalyy unrelated words. Vowels are more like conjugations or inflections in those languages.

This is better but I don't get the Buddhism-Taoism-Shintoism links. The way Shinto exists today is completely different from "original" Shinto and has been extremely influenced by Taoism first and Buddhism later.
Also Theosophy was hugely influenced by Indian religions yet is presented as an isolated offshoot of Neo Platonism here.
And the issues brought up. And Hinduism should be older, unless it refers to modern-day Hinduism which is pretty recent, and Jainism isn't as old as that.

A: paseqs are a kind of punctation used to indicate a pause during intonation, they don't separate most words
B: ancient Hebrew does not feature them

Islam was far more influence by Judaism than it was Christianity.

Stop this nonsense. This chart is pretty stupid with so many mistakes around.

Never pay attention to pop history/science/art/music. They are meant to appease the mass, not give you any fact.

>0 CE

I don't think that modern invented religions like wicca and scientology can be divorced from the religion of the culture they were developed in as far as an "evolutionary tree" is concerned.

youtube.com/watch?v=aeUWJbs9Q5E&index=66&list=PL72A8D66DC5ECAF04

Maybe Chuck D wins in the end.

Probably not. Too many unwarranted assumptions.
Like, Nostratic is a language superfamily. A tentative one, we don't know if there ever existed an ethnic group that spoke Proto-Nostratic. And even if there was, if it was religiously homogenous.
Also, the concept of separate religions with mutually exclusive belief systems is rather new.

>Jain/Buddhist are on a different tree than Vedic
No they aren't. All the main indian religion clearly come from a common pool of philosophy.

>Sramana is what its called
Oh you're just using semantics to try to to sound smart.

For what it's worth, Thelema flows more properly from Rosicrucianism, Gnosticism, Hermetics and Egyptian materials than from Theosophy, which itself is it's own thing rather than a natural extension of Neoplatonism...1200 seems mega early for Theosophy considering Blavatsky's time and place. We could probably push Rosicrucianism to the late 1500's.

Vajrayana flows out of Hindu Saivist synchretism.

I find that hard to believe. LRH wasn't some genius detached from culture. It must have its origins in some religion or another, though it definately has roots in psychiatry and some psuedoscience stuff like Wilhem Reich.

>It must have its origins in some religion or another
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmations_(L._Ron_Hubbard)
>Finally, a significant number of the Affirmations relate to Hubbard's "Guardian" – a magical concept that he had learned from Jack Parsons. In 1945, Parsons had written to Aleister Crowley to inform him that Hubbard had become his "magical partner" and described Hubbard's beliefs: "From some of his experiences I deduced that he is in direct touch with some higher intelligence, possibly his Guardian Angel. He describes his Angel as a beautiful winged woman with red hair whom he calls the Empress and who has guided him through his life and saved him many times." Hubbard appears to have continued to believe in his Guardian Angel well after leaving Parsons's circle...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Guardian_Angel

tonyortega.org/2014/06/17/rare-tape-reveals-how-l-ron-hubbard-really-came-up-with-scientologys-space-cooties/
^He appears to reference Solomonic magic in reference to vagrant spirits intruding on the mind (in other words the audio's the first apprehension he gains of body thetans or thetans in general, the FIRST metaphor he reaches for are the 72 spirits bound by Solomon).

This desu. Plus, Mitra is referenced in Hinduism as well, but it in a less pronounced way than the original Aryan tradition.

Phoenician Polytheism, it's right there.

At least they have the foundation of Judaism at 300 BC, which is accurate for the Jews spoken about in the bible; even if they later leave out Rabbinical Judaism.

No, Im not an expert on the subject but there are some small groups in the middle east and africa

There has been speculation that the karaites have a connection tot he sadducees

Why is Einstürzende Neubauten's logo there?

Jain and Buddhists are explicit rejection of Vedas and its knowledge as base, so I don't get why you think they're the same.

Do you have any reason? Again, this is exactly the same as Atheists rejection of Judeo-Christian God/Bible/Knowledge. You don't say Atheism and Christianity share same root religion.