Why living in some U.S. cities is literally like living in the Middle Ages

I wish we could go back to the old murder rates bros ;_;

Look at it by tax bracket or level of education instead and you might actually learn something

We were truly born in le wrong generation

Oh gee louie, I wonder what's the common denominator between all the american cities with high murder rates.

Mmmmmh

>Look at it by tax bracket or level of education instead and you might actually learn something

Indeed, you'll learn that regardless of income or education, most crime in the U.S. happens in minority populated inner-cities.

While dirt-poor dumbass White trash do tend have higher levels of crime, it's nowhere near comparable to Black or even Hispanic crime rates, strongly suggesting crime is primarily a cultural issue.

Blacks? Gun control? Illegal immigration? Lack of Swedish heritage?

The poorest part of America is Appalachia. Which is almost completely white. Appalachia doesn't have nearly the crime problem of cities full of minorities.

Are they not Americans?

New York City has nearly identical demographics to Chicago, but about 1/3 the murder rate.

This is bullshit because it's counting duels as murder.

Duels to the death were not murder. It's not the same at all.

what was going on there?

>13th cen and on are the Middle Ages
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That is because the NYPD is massive. Their intelligence division is larger than the intelligence agencies of most nations.

But even if you take out all homicides committed by black people, the murder rate is still 2.5 per 100,000. That's 2.5 times the rate in England or Italy.

And yet in 2014 94% of murders in NYC were committed by non-whites, with blacks accounting for some 60% on their own.

On a somewhat related note, in 2000 in the US non-hispanic whites had a homicide rate of 1.9, hispanics had a homicide rate of 12.2 and blacks had a homicide rate of 20.8.

>hispanics had a homicide rate of 12.2

So we're not at the top of the list?

Yay I guess.

American White homicide rate is about equal to Finland.

Finns are among the worst in Europe

Crime levels have been proven time and time again to be closely correlated with economic status, and not culture (speaking strictly about the USA here). Racial minorities with decent incomes are about as likely to commit a crime as a white person in the same financial situation. Attributing it to cultural issues distracts people from the real issue at hand. To big step of solving the crime epidemic which had overtaken the United States is to provide better education to racial minorities.

>Racial minorities with decent incomes are about as likely to commit a crime as a white person in the same financial situation.

You literally just received an example in which that is clearly not the case.

It's 1.6 in Finland, a little lower. Whites in the US have a higher murder rate than nearly all of Europe, excepting the eastern-most countries

>Crime levels have been proven time and time again to be closely correlated with economic status

Which of course explains why Black-Americans had vastly higher murder rates prior to the 1960s, right?
Seeing as how they were subject to open and institutionalized racism and had vanishingly few economic
opportunities?

Oh wait, they didn’t… And in fact, the Black-American murder rate, as well as other negative metrics such
as out-of-wedlock births, alcoholism, etc. were not much worse then White rates and nowhere near what it
is today (i.e. HALF of all murders in the U.S. are committed by Blacks).

>Comparing individual cities to entire countries
What the actual fuck

It's a way for media to make a problem seem worse than it actually is, like violent cities is unique to the U.S. when you have places like Northern Ireland where people need to be quarenteened off lest they murder each other. Unfortunately, we can't do that in the modern day.

>Indeed, you'll learn that regardless of income or education, most crime in the U.S. happens in minority populated inner-cities.
>implying "minority populated inner-cities" have the same income and education distribution as the country as a whole

It also has a much lower population density. Urban areas tend to have higher crime rates, simply because the population is more concentrated.

So you're implying that circa 1970 blacks somehow magically became more violent?

kill yourself you useless fuck

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even though it doesn't explicitly say it this is a "we need gun control" piece.

To the extent that that's their usual boogeyman. They usually either ignore or mis-represent anything that would lead to a conclusion other than "need mo money fo dem programs", "institutional racism is the reason that blacks have never amounted to anything" and/or "guns make blacks violent and therefore nobody should have guns".

You're still destroying the social fabric of our nation and we still resent you for it.

They were enabled. The poverty cycle is sociological. Single moms have bastard kids with no father who then become single moms themselves (female) or organize with others with that background for crime (male) more so than monogamous pairs.

This is politics not history

There was nothing magical about it, LBJ's "Great Society" destroyed the Black-American family via cradle-to-grave welfare, government benefits and programs, that could only be had if the mother wasn't married.

In particular, housing subsidies, that allowed Black women who got pregnant to move out of their parent's homes at a very young age, gaining freedom and independence that they previously wouldn't have gotten until they were much older and had married and started a household with their husband.

Generation after generation of Black boys being raised by a succession of baby mommas, aunties and grandmamas with no father in sight (or memory) has utterly screwed over Black-American society.

>I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even though it doesn't explicitly say it this is a "we need gun control" piece.

My understanding is that the article's author is an anti-gun fundie.

This is only part of the story.

The rate of out-of-wedlock birth in black families began to increase relative to male unemployment during the Kennedy administration.

And then black male unemployment started to rise heavily.

>magically

Just because you're too retarded to reason out an explanation for something doesn't make the only explanation magic.

>le nigger meme

It also has almost no cities.

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I'm sure immigrants didn't compete for their jobs desegregation didn't get absorbed.

Can we note that the united states is just over 200 years old whereas European countries have been developing for thousands of years?

> This is only part of the story.

It’s the fundamental part of the story.

Economic opportunities for Black-Americans were FAR better after the 1960s then they were before; when my dad got hired into GM’s Tech Center in 1966, there wasn’t a singe Black guy on the entire one square mile facility (even the janitors were White) but if you drive down the road to Chrysler’s Dodge City truck plant today, well over half the highly paid unionized employees are Black.

Yet at the same that there is a Black man as President of the U.S.A., 70% of Black kids are born to unwed mothers, 50% of all murders in the U.S. are committed by Black men, barely 40% of Blacks graduate high school, etc. and so on.

This has nothing to do with economics, it’s all about post-1960s Black-American culture and that goes straight back to LBJ’s “Great Society”.

topkek

Its not like all of a sudden a bunch of naked people were dropped in the United States and fully developed with no outside influence.

>places like Northern Ireland where people need to be quarenteened off lest they murder each other. Unfortunately, we can't do that in the modern day.
t. Never been to NI. Northern Ireland is safe as fuck, Dublin is more dangerous than Belfast.

>Posting memo supremo Stefan
There's a very good chance he's lying with those statistics. Not that they're necessarily wrong, he's just really dishonest.

Well obviously not this time of year on the eve of the 12th but generally it is one of the safest cities in the UK. Doesn't mean of course criminal gangs and paramilitaries don't exist here, my protestant friend got jumped on by loyalists purely because he didn't have a belfast accent

as someone who lives in bumble fuck hicks ville after having lived in an inner city i can tell you thats bullshit crime is just as bad out here

that fucking spin

These are the top 10 states with the worst per capita violent crime rates
1. Alaska
2. Nevada
3. Tennessee
4. New Mexico
5. Florida
6. Louisiana
7. South Carolina
8. Delaware
9. Arkansas
10. Maryland

google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=what state has the most violent crimes per capita&oq=which state has the most violent crime per &aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.7454j0j9

You'll notice that while most of them are red states filled with white degenerates, so it's not like you can just blame the negro for all the crime that happens there.

there is far more to living in medieval cities than just fucking murder rates, considering that disease was a monumentally bigger problem at the time and so many other things such as the quality of life you turbo autist

Rural people are going to have to use their guns more, that is a reasonable consideration.

>most of them are red states filled with white degenerates
>literally exactly half of them voted Obama in 2012, the absolute maximum number that would fall short of your post being correct

bait harder

Alaska - red state
tennessee - red state
New Mexico - swing state leans blue
Florida - swing state leans red
Louisiana - dirty south red state
South Carolina - dirty south red state
Delaware - blue state
Arkansas - red state
Maryland - blue state