can confirm. currently a bug in eth where transactions in eth are mirrored in etc. been draining coinbase of all their etc for the past 2 days. eth is dead. etc goes on kraken soon and thats when the big spike happens. minor dip the first few hours tho
Isaac Martinez
I don't understand why this would make eth dead.
Christopher Clark
I need to buy ETC now.
I've read through so much about it in the last 24 hours, it's my number 1 must buy right now.
Jason Thomas
you cant store eth and etc in the same address basically. so eth is a bugged, centralized copy of etc with devs that roll back the chain on bad investments.
Jonathan Adams
I wouldn't claim etc is become death, destroyer of eth world yet, but yeah, eth is fubar right now. they might need another fork lol.
Christopher Perry
Because he just told you.
All seriousness, etc is fucked beyond reason because the main chain aka eth can not only hardfork it, or deny it life because they have 97% of the mining power.
Whales from the main chain also have the equivalent in etc and can dump it at any moment to crush the market, and 25% of the market cap is in the possession of the foundation and people gravitating around it, who have no interest in etc whatsoever except for a quick buck.
The mirroring bug only works to siphon etc and not to siphon eth, but hey that's freedom!
Now they have a chain that they call classic, who's a hardfork n°1 chain (homestead release was a hardfork but they don't realize it) where they can dump their bitcoins to try to crush eth, actively making the eth foundation richer and eth whales richer and bringing all altcoins market cap and a part of bitcoin market cap into the hands of the people they hate.
Makes sense, right? So yeah, go buy etc, run, swim, to the moon!
> I don't even care, I have a bunch of etc because I had a bunch of eth, getting rich either way. > I find this situation hilarious and the btc shills are getting worse and worse.
Jaxon Diaz
How is ETC fucked beyond reason?
Hunter Ortiz
Its not. People are just freaking out because of the price dropping a bit. Name me one asset that increased 400% in a day and didn't retrace after? Right.
ETC Hashing is now 20% of ETHF. Its like 4x more than yesterday. If ETHF dumps ETC on the market, good for me, I'll buy it up. Word is Chinese miners would prefer non forked chain.
Only thing that scares me a bit is that there are huge investors (banking elite types) in ETF and won't take this shit lying down. Its a battle of the people vs the powerful.
Benjamin Ross
this is good news guys.. im planning to ride this roller coaster all the way.. Even if ETH or ETC dies, I'll still walk away with my bag of loot
Cameron Mitchell
ETC will be the main chain because its gaining the reputation as the immutable eth chain. Not to mention the eth bugs that are going to force people to jump ship back to ETC or fork again and hope for the best.
Jacob Ramirez
The only reason why ETH hard forked is to return the stolen eth to investors. Now it has been taken care of, better yet everyone got rewarded handsomely for their patience, I don't see the reason why people want to ditch the old chain and ride the new one anymore
the reason is for profit.. stealing ETH's market cap just for keks
Juan Russell
Now that Bitfinex & Kraken have listed, and it's above .002. Our team is predicting .005 by the night is over. Friday is the day.
That is all ;)
Jeremiah Cook
so hold?
Adrian Parker
Tell me more senpai, it'll be our little Veeky Forums club
Isaac Gutierrez
bought in at 00019... next rollercoaster, when?
Brandon Fisher
>they might need another fork lol. no breaks on that train it seems thank god i never touched this shit
Austin Gutierrez
Oh most definitely hold if you can't buy my friend.
That is all for today. Lot of work to do ;)
Chase Ross
>, who's a hardfork n°1 chain (homestead release was a hardfork but they don't realize it) homestead was planned from the beginning, not a bailout cuz some fag couldn't program
Logan Sullivan
Ok ok, twist my arm... 1 more and then I'm gone like a ghost in Starcraft
Many people DO not understand how big this is going to be . In just one month. Come back to this post. Screenshot it.
ETC is the most undervalued coin on any crypto-market at the moment.
Imagine one day, in the future, and sooner than you may think , when each ETC will be worth $100 each.
The Future is now. You are the future, I am the future. We are the future.
Henry Rogers
100? on what basis? on what release or value that cuckETH doesn't have or get?
Jordan Russell
augh fine you got me im in
on poloniex i guess
Nolan Allen
What about this
Aren't you scared?
Hunter Jones
ETCuck will go down in flames in the next few weeks
heard it here first
Andrew Rogers
I happened to be on Poloniex when it first went live. Bought 500 etc coins for the fuck of it since the price was like .0003 and it seemed like a shit show. Forgot about it and checked today and holy shit. Going to hold these for at least a while to see how it plays out.
David Green
>altcoins
Not even once
Samuel Ward
>ETC is the most undervalued coin on any crypto-market at the moment.
agreed
>Imagine one day, in the future, and sooner than you may think , when each ETC will be worth $100 each.
sounds pumpy and dumpy. a lot more needs to be proven on this platform.
>The Future is now. You are the future, I am the future. We are the future.
sounds like cringy pumpy and dumpy. I still like etc though. ethf is just a clusterfuck at this point.
Benjamin Campbell
Well yeah but it was also planned that there would be 2 other hardfork release before the final product, homestead was always known to be a beta. Now regular eth will have a total of 4 instead of 3 but etc will be stuck in beta forever instead.
Lucas Kelly
Wait so ETC is the classic eth and ETH is the new hardfork?
Why would ETC keep going if the devs are only supporting the new chain?
Also someone please answer my completely retarded question of what happens to the ETH that was in my wallet? Is it considered ETC or did it get forked along to ETH?
Kevin Powell
You have both. If you had 1k prefork, you now have 1k in each currency.
Christian Taylor
How do I get that extra etc if I had 300ETH in BTC-e at the time of the forking? Wh WHERE IT AT
the foundation only develops for ETH, the true Ethereum project.
Do you want to invest in Vitalik or in some bitcoin maximalist vaporFudware ?
Don't be fooled !
Jack King
What if i told you....
you were full of shit?
Jacob Bell
It's just...this feeling I've got... like something's about to happen
Dominic Sanchez
like what nigger
Adrian Lewis
SPIT IT OUT BOY
Leo Hernandez
ETC can literally copy all good updates and Dapps from the ETH_bailout chain with some minor tweaks, and ignore all the bailouts and corruption. Win/win.
Aaron Mitchell
Sell them ASAP. It's a pump and dump.
It's happened time and time again to other newly listed coins. They all end up worth almost nothing.
Ryder Roberts
and what if I told you ETH will get back up and ETC will stagnate to 1 dollar.
Jackson Gray
What if HAHAHAHAHAH AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
stay with your bail-out coin.
Jack Brooks
omg thank you op
this was all from yesterday at the point of this thread's posting
Ethan Ramirez
lol all the etc trashtalkers , they haven't seen the truth yet. .005 will obviously happen just a matter of time , the whole world is catching on
ETC already has a dev team though, some of them have also a great reputation, ETH is finished
Leo Gray
Also, ETH will have to hardfork again to fix the replay attack bug. What a clusterfuck. Shorting this shit to zero.
Daniel Fisher
cant wait to see what you madmen will do
Anthony Rogers
I dont believe this shill. Got 2k etc which i left on Kraken pre fork. I will wait some hours, but if nothing happens ill dump it. Its free Money anyway
watch this phoenix be reborn from the ashes of Jewtalik's failures
Juan Jones
wait so if ETC gets a longer chain, then what said would work in reverse right?
where the mirroring bug would work to siphon ETH and not ETC?
oh boy...
Nathaniel Diaz
if no one on the main chain uses ETC, it makes absolutely no fucking difference if the ETC chain ever passes the ETH chain
they can replay ETH transactions on ETC, but quickly no one will give a shit when everyone's funds are being replay attacked on a garbage chain
Dominic Gonzalez
that sounds like a big "if" considering it got added to 4 major exchanges in 3 days
Liam Anderson
I shouldn't have even said if
the chain length is a purely symbolic factor
replay attacks have mostly been solved by smart people with splitter contracts. every single ethereum startup that matters has come out in support of the main chain
if vitalik really gave a shit about killing ETC, it would happen overnight with a 51% attack. he just wants to appear agnostic
Leo Johnson
>the chain length is a purely symbolic factor coinbase is going to support the longest chain, whatever it may be
Michael Martinez
>"Our guiding light here is that we follow the longest chain, the most popular chain, and that’s what we’re continuing to support," the representatives said.
www.coindesk.com/coinbase-gdax-ether-classic/
Mason Davis
post your ETC holdings
Jose Sullivan
IT IS SYMBOLIC
if tiny blocks (ethereum's block size is dynamic) and lower latency times allows ETC to create a longer chain, it won't fucking matter. coinbase and everyone else will still support ETH
the misunderstanding of ETC morons is astounding. vitalik is too fucking nice. all of you idiots would be at full losses if he had orchestrated a dump and/or 51% attack. I dumped everything I had on kraken the day it came out and destroyed the order book after selling less than half of my shit
I only have a little over a third of vitalik's holdings from the presale. if vitalik and/or any consensys people and god forbid the attacker gets his shit and starts dumping, ETC would be worth nothing
Aiden Murphy
I accept that the length is symbolic.
There is still the possibility that Vitalika and his cohorts want to keep the ETC chain for the simple reason that it's free money for them given that code can be ported easily in the future. Sounds like you just missed out on 10% of 2020 ETH.
Ryder Peterson
no. he isn't destroying it because this already enough of a clusterfuck and you idiots would be shitting yourselves in addition to all of the kicking and screaming that you're doing
there is no reason to have two production ethereum networks. great, copy all of the hardfork updates that come out from ETH from here on out (which is hilariously ironic, but whatever). it doesn't matter. you lose all of the network effects and synergies of smart contracts from startup A being able to talk to smart contracts of startup B
ETC may stay around based on its pure meme power like DOGE, but it will never be worth anything substantial
Blake Nelson
question: do you think it is possible that ETC price is being manipulated upwards to cause miners to abandon ETH and switch over to ETC?
Bentley Evans
I'm sure that some minority of people buying ETC know that higher prices means more miners will move over. I think the price is mostly being moved by stupidity, though. there is a market equilibrium, though. the price will roughly approximate to the hashing power so at prices of 1.61 and 12.67, ETC has roughly 13% of the mining power of ETH
Christian Allen
hardfork updates are a different matter than bailing out bank executives and avoiding responsibilities.
I have to give these fuckers props though. Stephan Tual convinced a $1b network to split in two. So he could avoid liability for losing over $50mm.
Kevin Thomas
Not him but yes.
I said in another thread that whales were basically trolling the price to make it gain value.
First they pumped quick, held then dumped to devalue it, then when it was at its bleakest point they pumped it even more.
Daniel Mitchell
Time to short?
Jack Cooper
the term "bailout" isn't appropriate because the term is most recognized as taxpayer funds being used to buy toxic assets at banks. I think calling it a "rescue" is better. no one _directly_ used funds to solve this. all they did was add a few lines of code to scoop up the stolen dao shit and put it in a refund contract
yes, you can argue that it had indirect costs from this whole ethereum classic revolt, but it isn't really a "bailout". if the ETC dorks had just gone along and not been the insufferable libertarians and daytraders that they are, everything would have been just fine
everyone hates stephan tual. I think vitalik's unwillingness to talk badly about anyone hurts him sometimes. everyone who has been around ethereum from the early days knows this guy is a scumbag. he tried to blackmail the foundation for 100k eth in the early days by releasing chat logs because he felt that they didn't reward early developers adequately. I guess this dao thing is karma. he will never be taken seriously by the community again
Joseph Gray
Yeah i saw that, Im starting to think this is the official shape of market manipulation. It happens so often you would think people would catch on (and maybe they do), but it keeps on happening
Nicholas Taylor
The man loves his family more than he loves crypto.
People who have reproduced are not to be trusted.
(Im talking of tual)
Hunter Howard
Time to trade position before the next pump
Alexander Perry
what happened to big friday?
Jason Lee
Btc-e got replay attacked and lost their ETC. Then they proclaimed it to be a scam lol.
Alexander Hernandez
if OP is not lying and this pumps, Coinbase will have to buy ETC on open market to return to customers.
So that means if you own ETC right now, all the VCs that backed coinbase will soon be pouring money into your pockets. Ppl like Fred Wilson, and Marc Andreessen
Brayden Baker
They don't have to. BTC-E lost customer etc and they name themselves the victim.
But if coinbase want to stay in business, they probably will but who knows. Maybe ethereum foundation is pressuring the price to keep it down so coinbase can buy them cheap.
Poloniex played the Ethereum beta cucks and amateur exchanges like btc-e like a fiddle. Straight up 4d chess. Thinking ETC will just dissappear is delusional. If it ever goes to a dollar for example, a shitload of ppl who missed the train the first time around will jump in for a shot at moon. Meanwhile ETH_bailout is very overpriced at 12$ for a platform with literally no real life application besides speculation and a multi million dollar fiasco still playing out.
Jack Foster
It's already over a dollar. It's sitting at $1.62. It was at $2.5 highest point.
Jack Morris
Okay its clear ETC isn't going anywhere because of a few things: * We're seeing higher lows each day * Risk/reward ratio presents a great opportunity * Much higher upside potential in the short/long term * Better moral compass (I think people under estimate how big of a role this plays) * Hashrate continues to increase For these reasons I will continue to hold a ETC position
Nathaniel Brown
OP never said which friday :P
Nathan Martin
Darknets are coming to ETC. ETH fucked itself out of the biggest market in crypto.
Now those cucks are claiming there could be a "good" chain (ETH) and a "bad" chain (ETC). These faggots actually believe that there is a market for a SJW coin, where cool apps like clocks and crowd funding a TheDAO 2.0 (where their money will be stolen from AGAIN) will exist, and if something goes wrong, they can roll back the transactions to help. Its obvious, they argue, that big business would love have their operations determined by a bunch of niggers with some spare GPUs they bought off craigslist running in their basement apartment and voting on online polls as to what should be allowed, and who should have what money.
What in the ever loving fuck.
They don't realize that they're about to be bulldozed over by ETC even though they actually see the bulldozer coming right for them while its blaring its horn, flashing its warning lights, and everyone with any sense is telling them to get out of the way of the bulldozer.
I'm stocking up on popcorn to watch these little bitches when the tide shifts. /r/ethereum is about to be the greatest place for keks in the history of the internet.
Michael Sanchez
fellow redditor just made a site www.etcminer.com seems like good starting point for beginners . join the revolution
Aaron Watson
>steal wallet.exe
Sebastian Davis
Is it worth getting into Ethereum now that the split has happened?
Brayden Watson
>Darknets are coming to ETC
Where did you learn this?
Ayden Lee
>Its obvious, they argue, that big business would love have their operations determined by a bunch of niggers with some spare GPUs they bought off craigslist running in their basement apartment and voting on online polls as to what should be allowed, and who should have what money.
kek
Colton Sanchez
Legit. ETC will win and this is an unique opportunity to safely x4+ your BTC.
Cooper Price
How much money should I put into Ethercoin and how long can I expect to hold for? I have like 1.5k to invest. Also, how much does it cost in commission to buy 1.5k in ETC?
Juan Carter
commission is 0.15%.. Im longholding some ETC, prolly gonna go up in a few months albeit slowly
Brody Collins
Great. Where do you buy from?
Jack Adams
I'm having a blast on the ethereum and bernie sanders reddits this month. Literally feeding on tears and impotent rage... almost tempted to make an account...
Grayson Thomas
Poloniex
Carter Rogers
Where do you guys keep your bitcoin/ethereum wallet?
William Walker
Which should I invest in? ETC or ETH?
Jose Walker
ETH if you're playing the long game
Carter Wilson
Aight thanks. Where should I keep my ETH and what kind of returns can I realistically expect in ~1 year if you don't mind me asking?