Why do the nu-male whites seem to be celebrating there own demise?

Why do the nu-male whites seem to be celebrating there own demise?

It's fucking hilarious! Ha! For so long you imbeciles laugh at us /pol/lacks, yet you're countries are being flooded with refugees, and you fucking welcome them.

Just look at Brexit, you're so fucking cucked you refuse to do article 50 immediately, and even elect a fucking women! Ha!

>inb4 wahh go back to /pol/

This is a philosophical question, why are the whites so welcoming of their downfall?

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Because of this.

Now fuck off back to /pol/

>yet you're countries are being flooded with refugees
Citation needed

>mfw Germany's birthrate issues are even worse than the Japs (who are already working on fixing it, anyway) but nobody ever talks about them because they don't have le NEET weeaboo cartoon meme to make fun of

m.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc

>Why
This

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This is not a philosophical question. You have to qualify "why are the whites so welcoming of their own downfall?" in order for it to be susceptible of answer. As it stands, the answer is simply "they are not." There is no downfall and they're not welcoming it.

Now, what exactly do you mean by "downfall"? How is it happening today? Why is it happening to white men in particular?

I would greatly appreciate if you could explain the question without charged value-assertions that include the word "cuck."

>you're countries
Into the trash you go.

>I can't argue against him
>I-I'll call him o-out on a typo

Common sense, just look around you. Or see:We are fucking destroying ourselves. FACT.

>I can't understand simple questions and sentences

Read more idiot.

well that was a non-inflammatory, level-headed documentary. I think Europe should take more refugees.

I've never seen any white person "celebrating their downfall"

Do you live in an urban area in Europe?

>Read more idiot.

Ok, ad hominem. Nice start. When you say I can read simple questions and sentences, are you implying you did qualify your question in your post?

Because if the proof of a "downfall" of white men (whatever that means), is that countries are being "flooded" with refugees, and that Britain is waiting two years to sort the article 50 out led by a woman, well, I still don;t see exactly how that constitutes a "downfall" of white men.

I think that implying that white countries are being "flooded" with refugees is jut a sentimental statement. How many is too many? and why is that too many? How does the inclusion of a refugee minority affect the standing status of the white population?

On the other side, is a woman positively unfit to lead a country? If so, why? What is the proof?

Because the people you call "nu-males"
-Don't think accepting a few thousand refugees will negatively impact the millions of white Europeans, which are still the overwhelming majority in these European states.
-Don't really care if a women gets elected. If she wants to run, and she gets enough votes, let her.

Could also be that these "nu-males" have lived in upper-middle class suburbs, and interacted with peoples of a great variety of cultural backgrounds and never experienced anything that affirms any sort of inherent racial divide.
I don't entirely blame people for being kind of racist if they around a bunch of dumb niggers,spics, etc.

tl:dr: they have an entirely different point of view.

>nu-male
>cucks

Don't you have a retarded Trump rally to cheerlead at?

Not OP but I've met some of those so-called 'nu-male' leftists in lower class neighbourhoods with high black-on-other race crime.

>a few thousand
>upper middle class suburbs are diverse

Easily the dumbest most ignorant post i've seen in months, just has to be bait.

Beause that's life. Empires don't last forever. The western world has become decadent, filled with mediocre politicians who don't care about the well being of the people that have elected them.

/pol/ pls

You will never be the Ubermensch

>Why do blah blaah blah memes memes
You're talking shite. Get off the internet and go outside, or better yet, go back to your concentration board.

u tell em bb!

>why are the whites so welcoming of their downfall?
NOW GO READ AN ACTUAL BOOK YOU FUCKING RETARD

gtfo MUH Veeky Forums

Yeah OP they should have taught you this
at /pol/ already

What the fuck are they doing over there?

They sending their retards to us for basic training now?

>elect a fucking women

Kill yourself. This is b8.

> celebrating there own demise?
More like not giving a shit to your hysterical fear mongering for every tiniest reason possible.

because they base their "in-group" on subculture and beliefs rather than race

I am neither left or right wing, I am a special snowflake and one of the few people genuinely objective and unbiased, I am superior to you in intelligence, so believe me when I say both are spooks and both are irrational. I don't have any friends though.

> on subculture and beliefs rather than race
Can't blame them for that as white race clearly doesn't give a shit about other white race members, except if they are shitposting together or trying to whiteknight some poor girl. And even in that situations, solidarity is a fragile one.

>This is a philosophical question, why are the whites so welcoming of their downfall?
you didn't even try

>Euros complaining about refugees when they don't take in a fourth of the amount Jordan does

Why are whites the whiniest race?

>millions of "refugees"
>tiniest reason

People are not their race. Why should I give a damn about what happens to some group of people – most of whom I've never met and never will meet – which I only belong to because I happen to meet the requirements and not because I actually chose to be part of it?

Whites don't care about the white race. All the white people I know care only about party and drugs. I'm SA Germans descendant from both ides of the family and yet if I were to go to Germany they would send me back, meanwhile they take millions of brown Arab rapists. So fuck them too.

> millions of "refugees"
Barely even one million in Europe, where like 500 millions of people lives. Basically, you outnumber "refugees" by hundreds and still panic about this.

>bomb other countries and explicitly work towards the downfall of other governments
>whine when people from these countries become refugees

And I haven't even mentioned colonialism. Face it, Europeans brought this all upon themselves. Karma is a beautiful thing (as are nonwhite women).

Except they're never leaving and they will add up to the number already living in Europe. This combined with declining European birth rates result in a genocidal policy. But it's no use arguing with you. You probably think that whitey deserves genocide because of muh colonialism.

>cries crocodile tears for le bombing of other countries
>cheers for white genocide
Hypocrite piece of shit.

pretty much this senpai

A better question is: who cares?

I don't understand racial loyalty. I guess it makes sense to be loyal to your extended family and 'tribe', but why the hell should anyone be loyal to people who live thousands of miles away just because they share a common ancestor some centuries back?

Since I always hear 'muh white genocide' types say that whites are the only people with no sense of racial loyalty, I'll clarify that I'm not white.

> his combined with declining European birth rates result in a genocidal policy.
Check the basic mathematical extrapolation. Even if you suppose the current rate of Islamization just stay as it was, it wouldn't be a problem in hundred years even for the most pessimistic case. Literally the only case where you fear could be justified is a one where fucking entire country of Iran decided to live in France or something absurd like that. Try to create model by yourself if you don't believe in my original calculations or another one like picrelated.

>no downfall
Not OP, but I would contest that point.
The downfall of white men consist in their steady loss of power.
This is due in part to issues OP alludes to : population decrease in absolute and relative numbers, loss of prestige and status as normal members of society, loss of individual and collective political power.

The first cause is not debatable. With 1,5 child per woman on average, europeans are clearly in a demographic downfall, men included. And in western european countries, non-european peoples are steadily increasing in number and becoming very significant minorities, and likely majorities before the century is over.
In France, for example, over 30% of newborns are descended from two parents originating from africa. Adding to these the unknown numbers of east asians, mixed kids, new immigrants, and keeping in mind that this percentage is growing every year, it's safe to say the white majority there is likely to become a minority as soon as the baby boomers die off.

The second cause is more debatable. But the dominant discourse now is indeed not holding white men as the norm.
I would personally be ok with that if the norm was improved, but a strange alliance of relativism and conservatism took over instead.

Loss of power is also not as marked. And after all, there is a surge of nationalism in europe that has consequences, so they did not lose it all. But just as Brexit will only make brits more vulnerable to the markets and to their own politicians, I doubt that this surge will reverse things. All in all, the ability of white men to purposefully define and redefine their society and its mechanisms is diminished and diminishing.

>"millions"

>white genocide
How pathetic do you have to be to believe this bullshit?

If you stopped watching porn and stepped out of your mother's and you'll find that the /pol/tard beliefs you hold are all false. There is no super secret jewish conspiracy to end white people and there is no anti-white sentiment among society. In fact, being white will help you in a lot of situations.

t. white person who went to a school full of blacks and mexicans

I'm honestly starting to despise Westerners. They're all either cum-guzzling degenerates or whiny reactionaries convinced that the world is constantly coming to an end.

Some months ago, I was working and living in italy with a german and a ghanean.
At one point, they were discussing the african's girlfriends, and the german asked if the one he had here was white, and congratulated the other guy when he said yes.

The fact that it's worse elsewhere doesn't make it okay here.
Though I would agree that refugees in their current numbers are not as big a problem as regular immigrants and their children.

t. libtard
White people are already a minority in America.

> already
You mean from the moment that country was created? Such a price for every white man to own hundred of black slaves.

> they were discussing the african's girlfriends
Well, it's not their fault that white girls prefer to choose black males.

WTF are you talking about you dumb retard? Even today balcks comprise only 13% of the population. In the 1920 whites were close to 90%.

No they aren't.

This thread is a bitter reminder that there can be no dialogue with libtards. These people are self-hating, mentally ill individuals who want to die and to bring everyone else down with them.

>t. libtard
t. retard who can't properly define liberalism

>White people are already a minority in America.
That's what happens when you import slaves and take over lands that are inhabited my mestizos.

White people aren't even native to the Americas so why do you care?

It should be clear by now that OP is baiting or just handicapped. Move along everyone.

You should care because even though races are not people, peoples ARE different from one another.
I want to have a certain control over who I'm living with. If I don't want to go live in syria, it's not only because of the heat and landscape, but also because of the syrians. So why should I think that it is indifferent or enriching if they come to live here ?
Cultures are not equal. European cultures are full of flaws and in clear need of rebuilding but not as badly as arab cultures.
Also, race matters as a social construct. Being brown means being seen as different AND seeing whites as different. People who can recognize obvious outward differences between themselves will thus always feel separated and will recreate cultural separations if they start dissolving.
That's why children and grandchildren of immigrants are all about muh roots.
It then creates conflict, and prevents rational criticism of society and behaviours, and then things get worse.

>Also, race matters as a social construct. Being brown means being seen as different AND seeing whites as different. People who can recognize obvious outward differences between themselves will thus always feel separated and will recreate cultural separations if they start dissolving.
That's why children and grandchildren of immigrants are all about muh roots.

You're right.

I tried so hard to distance myself from my mother's immigrant culture but it didn't work. People still see me as a foreigner because I'm brown but I don't fit in with my mother's 'people either'.

I hate both sides of my heritage so much I hate them all I don't have any human connections I'm so lonely I hate everything and I wish I was dead why can't the world end already fuck all of you.

>It then creates conflict
Which is why when Europe was entirely "white" everyone had a great time and there were no wars over anything because everyone admired each other's whiteness.

Oh wait-tens upon tens of millons of "whites" were killed by other "whites". from the Albignesian crusade to the attempted eradication of Slavs by the Nazis.

it creates societal conflicts within a nation, not conflicts between nations.

back to re.ddit

So we are turning this i to /pol/ now? Welp, fuck this site. Not one fucki g board can not be destroyed by racist meme virgins

Sucks user

One word: Enantiodromia

are those numbers real
interesting

Well parents Serbian, lived entire life in Croatia. Croatians sees me as Chetnik, Serbians sees me as Ustasha. Feelsgood.jpg. don't worry about it m8, people are shit, always have been and always will be. You just gotta live and except it and find those who are not so shitty. You'll find them, don't worry. A

> pewforum.org/2011/01/27/future-of-the-global-muslim-population-regional-europe/
Yes, but they doesn't consider refugees as this is 2011 year extrapolation. Still even if you add them it would go, say from 51.6 just to 53.8. And so the dynamics doesn't really affected that much. There need something more than birth rate and 'millions' of refugees for problem to be compared to the real race genocide.

interesting, but remember the numbers should be bigger, because 2011 was a 'long' time away and by 2060 old white people will die

probably a factor 2 increase or something

either way it's the ability to assimilate them + the ability to control immigration that will determine what happens to the population

i am not super concerned

*tips*: the thread

I am sure if enough old white people would die, the birth rates would went up, if you don't need to work for them anymore you could start to work for future of children instead.

all of them will be concentrated in few countries where they will have a lot of political power so it might become in those countries but not the whole of europe.

>the whites
>implying white people are a single cultural unit and have the same beliefs
Fuck off, loser. People like you are why Veeky Forums will always be filled with the "le back to /pol/" meme just like /pol/ had the "le back to Veeky Forums" meme.

>BUT LE WIMMINZ GOT ELECTED
Thatcher was a woman, what of it?
>You're so fucking cucked
>cucked
>cucked
There's that word again. Go cry about your so called white """"""""""genocide"""""""""" while you keep talking about interracial adultery.

White "genocide" is a lie created by insecure stormweenies.

So... Like Albania or Bosnia?

i mean more like france.

nah, those peoples have been in europe for a thousand years, they won't be a problem ever, not more than their neighbors anyway

>You should care because even though races are not people, peoples ARE different from one another.
>I want to have a certain control over who I'm living with. If I don't want to go live in syria, it's not only because of the heat and landscape, but also because of the syrians. So why should I think that it is indifferent or enriching if they come to live here?
>Cultures are not equal. European cultures are full of flaws and in clear need of rebuilding but not as badly as arab cultures.
So it's about culture, not race. If a syrian who acts like a white man were to move into your neighborhood you should have no problem with it judging by your argument.

>Also, race matters as a social construct. Being brown means being seen as different AND seeing whites as different. People who can recognize obvious outward differences between themselves will thus always feel separated and will recreate cultural separations if they start dissolving.
So I should care about race because other people care about race?

>It then creates conflict, and prevents rational criticism of society and behaviours
How so?

>insult and belittle everyone who doesn't share your views
>wah why do liberals always ruin the conversation
Pot and kettle much?

race will be mostly irrelevant and most newborn babies will be mixed after invention of hyperloop and other transportation system. there will be one single culture, language and everything we know will change. earth will be similar to "brave new world"'s earth, but it will be even better than BNW earth.

this is the ache of change, everything will get better. so stop chimping, and enjoy the change. it's inevitable.

*your
*woman

If you get punched once, does that mean you won't be hurt by a second punch ?
I said it creates conflict, not that it's the only thing that ever creates conflict.

Yes, it's about culture. So also about race, because race is a cultural object. A syrian quickly assimilating into european culture would be fine with me.
Problem is that most don't.

>So I should care about race because other people care about race?
Yes. What people care about, matters.

>It then creates conflict, and prevents rational criticism of society and behaviours
Conflict between divergent values, and conflict between different people.
If brown people are recognized by themselves and others as a group, it creates an us vs. them mindset.
Faults incumbent to people of one's group are ignored, while that of the "others" are overblown.
Individuals of the other group are identified with it and made responsible for its deeds, past and present, imagined or real.
Individuals of one's group are expected to fit in the culture and defend it or are seen are traitors.
For example, arabs in europe recognized themselves as a separate group, and developed a community, an identity. They are expected by themselves and others, among other things, to be muslims, and started caring about that : immigrants tended to take their religion for granted, their children see it as a part of their identity that they need to pursue and defend, and became more religious than their parents.
They tend to ignore the dangers of that religion, because of their sentimental attachment to it, and to dismiss external criticisms of it as prejudice, making actual prejudice harder to identify.
When problems become too dire to be ignored, like when people are killed, then it's the links they have with the culture of the group that are denied.
And thus, unable to agree over what is happening and unwilling to challenge both sides at the same time, we all lose control.

pewforum.org/2011/01/27/future-of-the-global-muslim-population-regional-europe/

That chart is only true under the assumption of a slowed down growth rate which is questionable considering the recent surge of Muslim immigration. Many of those recent immigrants (Arabs, black Muslims) also have higher fertility rates than other Muslim groups like Bosniaks, Albos or Turks. Either way, according to your link Muslims will make up ~10% in many Western European countries, most of them will be considerably younger than the European population. The Muslim proportion will also keep growing long beyond 2030. The thread is also not only about Muslims, but Non-Europeans in Europe in general. So even if it will only happen in 100 years, in the long run Europeans are going to become a minority in their countries.