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from what I'm getting here (and I hope the OP in the original thread can chime in, both in the thread and discord), the core idea is to create blog(s) on your niche of choice - this could be anything, ranging from skincare, to martial arts, to rock climbing, etc. the more knowledgeable you are on the subject, the better.
following this, you create a face book page for that same niche which you maintain. then, using bots and bought facebook accounts, you try to generate traffic to your facebook page - add large amount of friends with the bot account, then invite them to like your page. once you've accumulated considerable amount of likes, you make posts which redirect your viewers to the blog, where you shamelessly shill the products you are affiliating for and hope for the best - all this is to avoid getting banned by facebook for advertising on their site directly w/o paying for facebook ads, i imagine. oh and you can also put up adds on your blog as well, i guess that nets some revenue as well.

anyone can feel free to correct me

>I don't get this part
yea, i don't get it either. yet.

yeah but all this internetz marketing has such a bad aftertaste for me, don't you feel the same?

like it's tottaly chewed to death topic with a little circle elite that has been doing this since the early days

>I'd rather learn a trade that I actually like doing

money is money, if i can make it doing this i don't give a shit

I get what you mean if there's no chance for the rest of us to make money, but if this can make you money, then why are you worried?

to make money you have to create vaule

with these facebook tactics you can reach quite a lot of people, but you gotta think about the kind of people you reach

>facebookbrowzing, chlickbait clicking sheep

probably just old women..

so if youre interested in this know what people you reach so you know what kind of a shitty product you can show them and hope they use your referral link

I'd rather do what I love, so it doesnt feel like work
> if there's no chance for the rest of us to make money

you might should invest your resources time+money into yourself so you become someone with value because if you have value you can also give value and be (((paid))) for it

>time
i have barely any free time for myself cuz i'm a 9-5 wage slave
>money
i have barely any money cuz i'm a 9-5 wage slave

see where i'm going with this?

Old women have money tho. If I show them "cool" products, then they might buy from me. Are you saying you don't think they'd buy from me or you,d feel guilty marketing to them?

Serious questions, do you think I could make decent money on this, because all signs point to yes if i work hard to build up the Facebook page.

you choose your job pal... see where im going with this?

I'm the wrong guy to ask, you can make money with everything but if youre a young guy.. it just feels like you came to this party a bit late...this feels extremely outdated

but if you do this look at facebooks numbers to see who the majority of active users are, buying patterns and any other statistic you can get your hands on and then find a product for that group of suckers

Is it ever really outdated if new niches come out all the time though? And maybe instead of shilling on Facebook I can do Instagram and stuff?

same old shit used by insecure people to brag... do you know anyone that bought something from an Instagram link?

all the girls I know just use it to post their selfies and that's it, scroll through their feed and give hearts to every second picture

this is dead end kiddo unless you get into these circles

Then how is OP of the first thread able to make decent money? I don't buy stuff from Instagram but I usually don't buy stuff online anyway since most things are a quick walk to the store for me.

A cloaker basically hides what youre advertising from facebook, so that when facebook IPs check your ad, they see something completely different from what people are seeing. It's completely blackhat and not allowed obviously, but people use them because it allows them to advertise things that fb doesnt want you to advertise.

Im gonna post this copypasta I made in another chan related to IM:

I'm just going to list a few methods of how some people earn money from the internet, but know that each and every one requires a lot of time, dedication, research, and sometimes money. However, every single method listed below can provide a sustainable income to live off of, and some can possibly make you filthy rich.

(part 1)

Method 1. Build massive social media accounts with bots (for example 1+ million followers on instagram) and then sell shoutouts, or promote your own products, or drive traffic to somewhere you can monetize from. The bots are not free unless you know how to script your own, but it's a good investment because they are not really expensive. Building massive social media accounts take time, but since most of it is automated its not much effort involved. (low risk, low effort, possible high reward)

Method 2. Dropshipping. Research a low competitive niche product and then find a source from china or india who can dropship for you (most people use alibaba or aliexpress, but theres others). Start feeding traffic into your site using methods like SEO (search engine optimization), social media accounts (fb, twitter, instagram, pinterest), or even paid traffic if you have the money for it. People will come to your site, buy your shit, and then your source in china will take care of the rest. (low risk, reasonable effort, possible high reward)

Method 3. Design T-shirts. You can design and submit Tshirts on TeeSpring or Amazons own t-shirt service (this is relatively new), and then you'll make profit every time someone buys a shirt with your design on it. I've read about a guy who managed to build up close to 2000 designs on Amazon and he earned around 2-3k a month from this. (low risk, reasonable effort, possibly high reward)

(part 2)

Method 4. Affiliate marketing. To put it simply, you create ads for companies who will pay you money if youre able to get people to do an "action" (ie: signing up to something, installing something, buying something, etc). So for example, you create an ad on facebook promoting an app, and you get 25 cents for every time someone installs the app from your advertisement. The catch is that you pay facebook for every time someone clicks on your ad, regardless if they installed your app or not. So, there is a lot of risk to this, but it can also be very rewarding. You will need money to start, because you're practically guaranteed to lose money while you test advertising campaigns. Some people lose hundreds to thousands of dollars before their campaigns earn any money, but eventually they earn xxx-x,xxx amount a day from this. (high risk, high effort, possible massive reward)

Method 6. Online arbitrage. Basically find gaps in the market where you can buy something from one source, and then sell it to another marketplace for a small bit of profit. It's a simple concept, but you'd be surprised how far some clever people take it. It doesnt even need to be a physical product, there's people outsourcing services they find from Fiverr, which is a marketplace where people sell a service for just 5 bucks (writing, videos, translating, etc). (low risk, reasonable effort, possibly high reward)

Method 7. Amazon FBA. Basically, search for a niche on Amazon with low competition, and then find a source who can sell you that item for wholesale in bulk. Send the items to Amazon FBA service (they store the products for you there and ship them out, they also handle returns and customer service and shit). You can make great money off this method but it requires real monetary investment to get started and its not so simple finding the right product and distributor. Once you find a hit product, you can go into private labeling (high risk, reasonable effort, possible high reward)

(part 3).

Method 8. Websites. Create a blog or website based on a niche or interest which you can provide at least some original content to (videos, articles, whatever). Deceptively add advertisements and affiliate links into your website and then work on driving traffic to your site (SEO, social media) to monetize. Take a look at websites like flippa to get an idea for how much some websites are earning, what they are doing, and how much they sell for. Building and driving traffic to any website takes a lot of time, and you wont earn much for the better half of a year, but eventually things pick up and you (low risk, high effort, possibly massive reward).

Method 9. Retail arbitrage. Go to stores and find discounted items that you can sell for much more online. There's decent money in this too, but you'll have to actually go outside and buy the products. (low risk, high effort, decent reward)

Sites to check out:

Blackhatworld.com
Warriorforums.com
thewholesaleforums.co.uk/
trafficplanet.com/
Dont dismiss reddit as a tool as well, theres a subreddit for a lot of these methods.

Which onecof the following topics would you pick to expand on for either a "blog" or facebook thing?

>military history

Pretty big interest here but not sure what I would post about.

>miniature building/painting

Getting back into it a little bit after a hiatus. If it could make me money I would definitely pick it up more but modelling stuff and the models themselves are expensive. I could post tutorials, reviews, etc.

>milsim gaming

Stuff like ARMA or DCS which I have wanted to get into. I could share ARMA scenarios and make "after action reports" or something like me writing my memoirs or some shit along with reviews, cool mods, etc.

Which of these things is a better niche?

i don't know much, but all of these seem obscure, and i'm not sure how you'd monetize on any of them

for what it's worth, i liked
>milsim gaming
the best

>military history
Can't see that working
>miniatures
If you're reviews get popular companies may start sending you models for free to review, and then if you get bigger you could probably get paid to promote products. Depends on how big the model industry is though, I don't really know.
>milsim gaming
Don't see this working well either.

bumping, hoping OP from old thread notices this and gets on discord

Thanks for the info m8. Question for the first one, how much should a shoutout cost? Shluld I advertise in my page that I'm doing shoutouts, or should I privately message smaller accounts?

Are there any skills that would be worth developing for making money on the internet?

I've been thinking about learning PHP for making websites for passive income, or Python for making my own bots.

I don't have any experience with either of those. I realize learning a new skill is always better than spending my time jerking off and playing video games, but are they worth prioritizing if I'm interested in doing internet money stuff?

How much a shoutout costs depends on how many followers you have, and how influencial you are. a shoutout can cost amywhere between $5 and $100+. As far as advertising shoutouts, you can do both ways you mentioned. Test and see which methods work for you. Also if the shoutout is risky and can get your account suspended, you can do temporary shoutouts (remove the post after x hours).

the skills you want to develop all depend on the method you choose to make money. first find something you want to do and then learn as you go. learning as you go is way more beneficial because you have a goal to work towards, so pick one method and start doing research on how to start. you dont need to be a programmer or web designer to make a website these days, thanks to sites like wordpress, shopify, etc, but knowing some front end/back end cant hurt.

bump

Alright I'll keep that in mind. Thanks user

facebook knows people are cloaking offers specific to those niches (and other niches). but obviously facebook cannot ban you under assumption of cloaking; if they spend time really checking every ad that is submitted to them they would get nothing done. it's up to everyday people to report your ads, which causes facebook to check them more closely and, if youre cloaking, they ban your advertising account. why would someone report your ad? imagine you're a fat fuck, you see an ad selling some shit that will "help you lose weight" you bought it and it did shit all. now everytime you see a similar product being shilled you report it.

the hard part in all of this is coming up with new credit cards everytime you need a new account. some ways are having a business account with your bank and claiming you need a new employee credit card everytime you need one (just say you hire only temp workers and there is a high turnover). another way is through the plum card with american express. apperantly you can call them and ask for a new card or something but ive only heard about it online; never tried it.

one thing you need to know also: people dont openly share shit in this business, especially on blackharworld, which is an open forum where anyone can read it. the really good cloakers are not being advertised on that site; in fact theyre not being advertised anywhere. even on pay per month marketing sites like stackthatmoney (which i do not recommend joining since that forum is shit) any thread that asks about blackhat will be shut down quick. the only way you can learn more is by somehow getting into a mastermind group; but to get into those groups you need to be able to contribute as well.

What sort of ads are used for the """legit""" url that your cloaker would send a bot to? Say you were running a diet pills offer - the copy and the pic are the same no matter what the url is, so it has to be relevant, yeah?

The discord links doesnt work.

My question: I have a youtube channel with 100k subs, but the traffic is from hispanic countries so cpm is low and its mostly kids.
How do I make more money out of this? the videos are my original work.

My twitter and facebook likes are very low compared to my 100k subs.

discord.gg/57sdh

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Say I find one of these groups. How do I make myself valuable enoguh that they include me instead of using me as a pawn in one of their projects? How do I know they're legit as well?